Based, when cost of living is too high, lifting becomes an inevitability. You’ve heard of the ‘invisible hand of the market’, now meet the ‘ignored voice of the market’. If piracy is a service problem-- and it is-- then it’s only logical that shoplifting is a societal problem.
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Only because they’re astoundingly shortsighted. This sort of crap causes a brain drain, and absolutely obliterates economies long-term. What we’re seeing right now is the beginning.
It makes me laugh how many people think this is a new development only in CA and in 2023.
This happened back in the 90s to my mom while working retail. Like 10 people came in and carried off the furniture they had in the store, because they knew the employees were instructed not to do anything.
Shit like this has been happening all over the US for decades, the media just decided it was the hot new topic to get more clicks recently. Even the Walgreens CEO who said theft was so awful they had to close a bunch of stores later admitted they "cried wolf".
Rich people love the idea that theft is out of control in the media because it gives them a talking point to keep us peasants in control. Starbucks was charged by the labor board for closing down unionizing stores under the guise of "safety concerns". Starbucks isn't the only place that has been pulling that shit.
And that's not to say I agree with 50 people bear spraying people and stealing luxury shit either. This isn't someone stealing food from the grocery store to feed their kids. It wasn't billionaires working in the store, it's people working a shitty retail job for shitty pay no doubt. But it is a topic being overblown for rich people's benefit.
No one cares about the fact that they stole some overpriced pirses dumbass, were calling them pieces of shit because they ran in and bear sprayed people who would have never intervened in the first place. The people doing this have no concept of class solidarity and the whole reason they’re stealing in the first place is for posturing, it has nothing to do with “sending a message”
Strongly considering buying property in Portland because values are depressed because of the propaganda/fear-mongering. I think there is a small, but legitimate risk that it eventually becomes true, though.
Downtown Portland has gone to shit, no doubt about it. But there are problems in every city that needs addressing. For what it’s worth I’d move to Portland still, the area is beautiful and much better than the increasingly overpriced desert I’m living in
Have you actually been to Portland? It’s not propaganda or fear-mongering. There are massive tent cities of homeless people under all of the major overpasses, and at a few random points throughout the city. It’s a very real problem.
This isn’t someone stealing food from the grocery store to feed their kids… But it is a topic being overblown for rich people’s benefit.
How is it overblown? It is a real issue with law enforcement in America. People are being permitted to destroy and steal property. We need to get to the root cause of what’s going on their. It’s due to failures on multiple fronts. You can’t just say ignore it because capitalism bad. Capitalism is a founding principle of this country’s economy. You can’t play the card that these people are protesting corruption because others are enriching themselves by stealing goods. That’s not noble in any way and doesn’t help employees.
Fuck the founding principles. The “founding principles” of this shithole have been letting nepo babies, clay-footed ‘philanthropists’, grifters, and con artists rob the common man for 400+ years. And the ‘rise of criminality’(fuckin lmao, okay settler) will only get worse the more the common are robbed. The ‘root cause’ is the elites being ‘elite’; and there is really no way you’re gonna get me to condemn actions like what these raiders took in this day and age.
I don't understand why you think bear spraying employees who probably get paid a shit wage and can barely afford rent let alone insane grocery costs right now is helping? Now they will have medical bills they can't afford on top of maybe having to miss work, which they also can't afford.
I agree the root cause needs to be fixed. But if you want to steal as an attempt at fixing that at least do it in a way that you are not fucking over other people in the same position as you. They aren't part of the problem.
Is it unfortunate that civilians were in the splash zone with lpos and rent-a-pigs? Yes. Am I going to condemn the thieves’ actions? No. Fuck the police, fuck the elites who rob us day in and day out, and fuck anyone who’s gonna sit there and pearl-clutch for them like you’re not getting robbed too.
Billionaires love when we infight amongst ourselves rather than go after the real problem. You're just playing into their hand. It's not "pearl clutching" it's called solidarity. Standing together against the real issue instead of continuing to fuck over each other. There are plenty of ways to steal without fucking over your fellow worker.
You seem to prioritize harming fellow workers over tackling the root cause, which is unfortunate. United we stand, divided we fall. There's a reason billionaires are VERY scared of us working together, even moreso than theft.
they didn’t bear spray the employees, but two security guards. a non-lethal measure that police use all the god damn time on civilians.
What this shows is the continued fraying of the social contract that exists within any society. We aren’t taking care of people, so desperate people turn to acts of civil disobedience as a means of support. These clothes don’t have special identifying markers or characteristics. There’s no VIN number. They’re being sold second hand in order to provide for people. The only way a billionaire can exist is for millions of people to live in poverty. somebody can’t have a huge slice of the pie without taking pie away from others. I fully support their actions, with my only caveat being that ideally, nobody gets maced. We’re human being after all, not cops.
I used to work at a dollar store back in the day, and I was warned that this guy comes in every few weeks and grabs a bunch of jackets then runs out the back door.
No shit like clockwork it happened.
I was warned not to engage and just call the cops. My first time, I was in the back taking a shit in the bathroom next to the rear emergency exit. I heard the alarm go off and jumped up, pulled up my pants and ran out to catch him. He ran out back, I ran out after him. He pulled a gun on me and I learned my lesson. Let the dude have the jackets. Got it.
Criminal traitor over party, party over country. It’s the MAGA way. Lost the popular vote twice, impeached twice, lost every court case trying to overturn the 2020 election, indicted three or four times so far? I can’t remember at this point. But he’s still their guy. Yes, it’s a cult.
The list goes on and on and on. Don’t forget all the creepy stuff like openly fantasizing atnout his daughter, or the fact that he is a convicted rapist, admitted to sexual assault and etc. A draft dodger making fun of vets, grown man wearing makeup and diapers making fun of other people physical issues. What a waste of carbon.
Cowards vote from fear. It’s their way. And trump has ensured their fear is not only sustained, but heightened. Remember the Mexican wall? That was a joke compared to the fear he has struck within his idiot base.
Big corporate hates attention about their practices. I was retaliated against and then crippled for raising concerns about my workplace. Corporate protected the store manager and the HR manager over the rape of an underaged cashier. Conservative corporations like The Home Depot need to be boycotted and shut down.
All corporations under capitalism are conservative. It takes a conservative’s level of hate for their fellow humans to exploit them like modern corporations do.
Frankly, corporations are rather authoritarian. You don’t get to vote on what decisions corporate is going to shove down everyones’ throat in most places. HR always protects the company before the employee, etc.
What about haggling it down to every Russian in military service or currently participating in the industrial or logistical services that support the genocide effort against Ukraine? I understand the difficulties of widely assigning blame to a population, it clashes very heavily with my beliefs regarding a fair and open society. I personally worry that the price of our distaste for going “all-in” against the invasion, is paid by the victims of it. Are the Russian citizens living in the occupied territories and Russia proper also victims? They probably are, that’s a tier two issue though. It’s very similar to how there is value in understanding the causes behind a serial sex offender, abuse, untreated mental health issues, things like that. While there is value in trying to address those issues, the direct damage to society first has to be addressed.
Anyways, I’m rambling, but I guess my point is that everything within the reasonable boundaries of the generally accepted rules of war should be done to drive the occupation out of Ukraine, as the people there pay a daily price of murder, torture, rape, and actions of ethnic cleansing. After that, there’s a discussion of the degree to which brainwashed soldiers and civilians supporting those actions are culpable.
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