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comrade19 , in Vance Runs From Resurfaced Podcast Chat About ‘Postmenopausal’ Women

I dont like this person but to be fair I sometimes say yep by accident to something when chatting with people. On an anthropological level, I think grandparents (and I guess post-menopausa women) serve a role for helping raise children, along with other things. Idk I expected it to be worse from this guy haha

DxK , (edited )

along with other things.

See, that’s the problem, you have to make up things to soften the statement that JD Vance was agreeing with. What the host, Eric Weinstein, said was “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female,” is to help raise children. There was no concession that postmenopausal women serve any other function than raising grandchildren. Stop trying to make it seem reasonable.

Idk I expected it to be worse from this guy haha

Again, it’s because you made up a reason to pretend what he was agreeing with was a reasonable position.

barsquid ,

Me accidentally saying “yep” to that would be followed by a “wait, fucking no.” Also I wouldn’t be on a podcast with dimwits who have bigoted conceptions like that.

Soup ,

And then you just let it lie? Sure sometimes you ignore what a boss says because they have an unreasonable hold over your life, or that douche at the store who you just don’t want to have a fight with, but this asshole was on a podcast trying to act like a big important whatever and didn’t walk it back or anything.

If this ain’t that bad then buddy you gotta do some soul-searching.

comrade19 ,

Far out I hoped to create a discussion by giving a more centrist view, and i like your points, but you lot are for sure attacking me personally with those closing words. Bringing back reddit ptsd 😢

nkat2112 ,
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I don’t think there is much room for compromising - by providing a more “centrist” view - with the highly misogynistic position that Vance stands behind. And that is why other responders disagree with your point.

comrade19 ,

Thanks I much prefer your response style it is assertive and not directed at me but rather my comment. You also make a good point that I didnt consider because although im left, im from Australia so don’t get the full picture.

expr ,

It’s funny you mention Reddit because there was a subreddit dedicated to making fun of shit “centrist” takes like yours: www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/.

The fact is that politics in the US is skewed so far to the right that the options are center-right (Democrats) or far, extremist right (Republicans).

spongebue , (edited ) in SkyWest Airlines facing federal lawsuit over alleged ‘fake company union’

I worked for SkyWest over 10 years ago as a ground worker. I can’t even remember what they called their fake union (wouldn’t have been SkyWest Inflight Association) but yeah. We also had some “you don’t need a union, they’re bad” propaganda as part of our training.

Honestly, it was a pretty fun job as a college student but some of that stuff made me feel a little dirty

Edit: memory remembered SAFA, and Google says that stands for SkyWest Airlines Frontline Association. In hindsight, yeah, pretty bad.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge , in A teen was falling asleep during a courtroom field trip. She ended up in cuffs and jail clothes
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How the fuck is this allowed?

Warl0k3 ,

Separation of powers. Executive has the DOJ and friends, Congress has the Sgt at arms and Judiciary has contempt. All three are, in theory, immune to interference from the other branches, to allow said branches to defend themselves. Stupid, stupid idea.

TheBigBrother , in Woman recalls alleged sexual abuse at age 3 in Michigan church, lawsuit says

I wouldn’t be surprised if she only want to get easy money.

forrgott ,

So you’re saying the statistically less likely option is the one you think is most likely to have been the case?

Not only is this kind of view dangerous and prejudiced, it is quite simply not supported by the data.

TheBigBrother ,

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink ,

    I hope people dont believe you the next time you claim that something deplorable happened to you.

    Then you will likely argue that people should start bybassuming you might be telling the truth and look at evidence and investigate the case before determining that you were telling the truth or lying.

    Your tendency to think a woman is lying for money when making claims of rape is the problem women face today. And have always faced, for that matter.

    We dont shoot first and ask questions later. If she is lying, then it will come out when scrutinised. If she isnt lying then its a damn good thing we didn’t just brush her away isnt it…

    MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Out transgender woman athlete will make history as she competes in Paralympic Games

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    some_guy , in The State Fair of Texas is banning firearms, drawing threats of legal action from Republican AG

    Ken Paxton is such a piece of shit.

    collapse_already ,

    When you’re a piece of shit your fellow pieces of shit just let you get away with felonies. And the clowns keep re-electing him.

    MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in New York county signs first mask ban into US law, sparking controversy

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    JimSamtanko , in Liz Truss leaves stage in Beccles as 'lettuce' banner unfurls

    Who?

    Freefall , in What a "no taxes on tips" policy could mean for U.S. tipping culture

    Tipping needs to die. It should AT MOST go back to being a “thanks for abnormally good service” bonus.

    MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Vance agrees that raising grandchildren is ‘whole purpose of postmenopausal female’

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    sorrybookbroke , in A teen was falling asleep during a courtroom field trip. She ended up in cuffs and jail clothes

    Don’t worry guys, the judge offered to be that girl’s mentor. Asked her parents and all, so he sees no problem with this usage of power. You can absolutely trust him to be alone with a child and “teach her right”

    Reverendender ,

    I was so worried!

    Dead_or_Alive ,

    That’s the most infuriating part of this story for me. If a judge did that to my child and then offered to mentor them, I’d be redoubling my effort to get them disbarred or worse.

    ShaggySnacks , in Biggest US grocery chain investigated over Uber-style surge pricing

    Don’t worry, once Kreuger merges and becomes even bigger. All this anti-consumer behavior will disappear.

    MelodiousFunk ,

    It practically regulates itself!

    mozz OP , in Columbia University president resigns after Gaza protests turmoil
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    In an email to students and faculty on Wednesday, Ms Shafik wrote that she has overseen a "period of turmoil where it has been difficult to overcome divergent views across our community".

    Yeah that's the most essential part of running a university, is you gotta overcome any divergent views

    "This period has taken a considerable toll on my family, as it has for others in our community."

    Imagine if they were in pieces, in a rubble strewn ditch somewhere. Or buried under a bunch of concrete. But yeah having your decisions criticized must be tough too.

    “It has been distressing - for the community, for me as president and on a personal level - to find myself, colleagues, and students the subject of threats and abuse.”

    Yeah I mean imagine if the police came up and tackled and pepper sprayed you

    That would certainly be distressing if that had happened

    Lady: NONE OF THIS IS ABOUT YOU. It wasn't back when it was happening, and it still isn't, now.

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    eskimofry , in "Double haters" who loathed Trump and Biden actually seem to like Kamala Harris, poll suggests

    Rules for not losing election*:

    1. Don’t insult the intelligence of your voters by calling them double haters.
    2. Don’t insult the intelligence of your voters by pretending that they won’t remember that you supported a genocidal maniac. No, the opposition being worse doesn’t excuse your depravity.
    3. Don’t insult the intelligence of your voters by beating them with the stick of facism. They already understand what’s on the line. Debating online is different from voting.

    *Does not apply to conservatives who worship Trump

    newnton ,

    I very much don’t think your average person understands the threat of fascism or what’s on the line, I feel like that belief comes from being in a left leaning echo chamber.

    Obviously anecdotal but the vast majority of people I know are not great about consuming news, are not politically active, and don’t believe this election will have the deep consequences that I do.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Your first paragraph doesn’t really make sense as those on the left tend to be the most keenly aware of the dangers of fascism, since

    a) First they came for LGBTQ+ people (which was left out of the poem since it was written by a conservative priest who was fine with persecution of THEM) and then they came for us

    b) it’s always us that end up having to fight fascists alone since the liberals try to negotiate with them (or stay out of it at first and then join them like they did in Italy with Mussolini) and the others on the far right try to become their allies

    Unless you consider Neoliberals left leaning. In which case you’re MORE wrong, but your logic is more consistent.

    newnton ,

    I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say but what I meant is that I agree people on the left are most keenly aware of the dangers of fascism and if you’re surrounded by mostly them (aka in a left leaning echo chamber) then you’ll believe that most people are aware of the threat and take it seriously.

    Unfortunately in my experience most people outside of the left (which is most people in this country) don’t share that awareness and therefore do not take the threat as seriously as they should

    vga ,

    *Does not apply to conservatives who worship Trump

    As a purely strategical choice, I would say that insulting their intelligence won’t help. However right it would be.

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