This isn’t going to accomplish much. The best exploits are the ones that haven’t been discovered yet, so there’s no way to test for them. See also all the counterfeit crap on Amazon that’s somehow “MiFi certified” and “UL listed”. Companies that make sketchy crap will just slap a fake version of this label on their packaging.
What doesn’t say the orbit of the planet or its angle to the Sun can’t make the pendulum swing the other way?
I fine w/ going green, I wish we had more light rail in the US. It was nice when I worked in DC and got to read a book on the way into work. I was a hell of a lot more physically active.
The orbit of the planet or the angle of the sun have nothing to do with it. The billions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane we pump into the atmosphere does.
Or do you think that has no effect? If so, I’d love you to explain to me about the chemical neutrality of CO2 and methane.
Temperature was going up gradually until the industrial revolution. Now it’s going up drastically. What changed is the amount of CO2 and methane we’re putting into the atmosphere.
Again, if you don’t agree, please explain how they are chemically neutral.
So you admit that there outside factors that determine the temperature of the planet. Ok we are getting somewhere, and again I will reiterate I would like us to knock off pollution if we can do it sanely.
But what if the changes (outside man made) are exponential? As the the orbit changes or the tilt changes it goes up in orders of magnitude. Is this not possible? I work w/ spacecraft and orbits aren’t a constant. All matter/mass/celestial bodies in the solar system have gravitational influence and changes orbits.
Methane and CO2 are naturally formed compounds and like any compound in the atmosphere they have an effect. I was talking out other outside forces that could be accelerating these changes.
If they have an effect and we’re pumping tons of it into the atmosphere in a NOT natural way, then it sounds like that effect would be magnified greatly.
What effect do you think CO2 and methane have on our atmosphere?
Again you are going off point, I posted could there be other factors? We got out of an ice age w/o human involvement as the Earth warmed, could there not be an exponential heating of the Earth that has nothing to do w/ co2/methane levels? Maybe this is the cycle of our planet.
Nothing to do with it? Ok, then again, what effect does putting a lot of extra methane and CO2 have chemically on the atmosphere? What is the resulting reaction? Unless, again, they are chemically neutral.
So you are saying that there is not any possible way there are outside forces that could be part of the problem? Solar flares disrupt communications, the Earth doesn’t have a perfect orbit, we know the Earth tilts in alignment to the Sun (seasons) and the magnetic poles have flipped a few time. We also know when massive event happen like plate tectonic shifts and volcano mass ejections can make the earth wobble. But naw they couldn’t be a factor, we just have one answer…
No, I’m objecting to you suggesting that humans are not a factor. Without explaining the chemistry. I’m beginning to suspect you aren’t a climate scientist.
Stop suggesting humans are the only factor. The fact you can’t accept that there are possibly other factors in play tells me you are also not a “climate scientist”. Something I never claimed to be, nor a chemist, so that’s a bit odd eh?
Tell me what you think: Are humans a factor- yes or no?
And no, I am not a climate scientist. I merely defer to them. And almost all of them say that humans are the primary factor in climate change. You seem to think you know better, so having expert knowledge in that area would seem to be a prerequisite.
All your possible outside causes can easily be observed and measured by modern humans. What plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions are causing the current heating? If our orbit or tilt around the sun has changed, why don’t you think we’ve noticed that?
We have one answer that we have any control over. The rest is pretty irrelevant. What point are you trying to make? Just and academic one? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just who fucking cares?
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