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xylogx , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets

In order to win a libel suit it is my understanding they must prove the claims to be false. So if this goes to court they could end up proving in court that it is a matter of fact provable that Twitter has become more toxic since Musk took over. And then they would win. That would be brilliant.

bassomitron ,

That would require the researchers to be able to afford a lengthy trial, which I’m guessing they can’t. Rich people do this shit to scare people out of going to trial.

MostlyBirds ,
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Good thing there are plenty of good lawyers that would cream their pants to take up a high profile slam dunk case like this pro bono or on contingency.

thisbenzingring ,

The ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center have some, I’m sure they would love to participate.

SasquatchBanana ,

Can Twitter afford it? They don’t have any accountants anymore and they may be the ones who will go in the shitter against a lengthy trial. Their ad incentive program had like only 5 mil available and Musk became neutered the moment he had to pay 100 million to the disabled guy he was about to fire.

DarkGamer , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
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This is clearly a SLAPP lawsuit. Since civil penalties and fines don't matter to Musk it seems the only way to enforce good behavior is with criminal ones.

slackmaster , in For the Love of God, Stop Microwaving Plastic

Are containers made of silicone safe?

Reverendender ,

This was my first question as well

Lemmylefty , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
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In the letter, attorney [for Twitter] Alex Spiro questioned the expertise of the researchers and accused the center of trying to harm X’s reputation. The letter also suggested, without evidence, that the center received funds from some of X’s competitors

Is this enough for a countersuit?

VanillaGorilla ,

Then Mr Musk said: "my dad can beat up your dad!" and ran away to knock over the bicycle of one of the researchers. Then everyone got ice cream.

FlowVoid ,

If you mean a countersuit for libel, then no. Anything said as part of a court proceeding is immune from libel lawsuits.

Lemmylefty ,
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Awwwww.

Makes sense but that is such any easy way to get things into the press with legal protections…

FlowVoid ,

True, but remember it’s not libel if everyone assumes you’re lying.

Rottcodd , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
@Rottcodd@kbin.social avatar

The thing that most stands out to me about Musk and his ilk isn't their hate - it's their cowardice.

If they would actually own their hate, I'd have some bare modicum of respect for them. At least then it would be a principled stance. A loathsome one to be sure, but at least principled.

But they're too cowardly and weak-willed for that. They're all telling it like it is and going their own way and fuck your feelings right up until someone calls them out on it, then they instantly turn into weepy schoolgirls moaning about how picked on and persecuted they are.

fluke ,

It’s projection. They shout about ‘snowflakes’ and ‘freedom of speech’. Or screech about ‘wokeness’ and all the other nonsense.

It’s only to deflect from the fact that they’re the snowflakes.

Most of them are too stupid to realise that’s what they’re doing. They’re too embarrassed to admit (often to even themselves) that they have no idea what freedom of speech actually is, or indeed any of the things are that they whine incessantly about. Utterly drowning in their cognitive dissonance.

They get whipped up into such a feverous stupour of fear that they can’t take a second to stop and actually think about what they’re being fed by their media rag of choice. They might actually realise that their stance doesn’t actually make any sense.

From Climate Change to Brexit. From Hunter Biden to Electric Vehicles. From ‘15minute cities’ to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Someone level headed will make a comment or raise an issue of ‘hey guys, maybe we should think about doing something about x. If we don’t then it’s probable that it will lead to something bad’. Something even as simple as offering a policy that will actually improve a great deal of people’s quality of life (including their own) with little cost. It’s all met with ruddy faced rage and flying spittle.

It’s absolute insanity.

squaresinger ,

I read your first paragraph too fast and read “freedom of screech”. Fits as well.

Poggervania ,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

It’s because, truthfully, they have no other stance except those that either make them money or headlines.

They’ll have whatever fuck principles and stances that will give them either more money or more acknowledgement for their egos.

Zoldyck , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets

Sounds like a challenge.

LillianVS , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
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Being totally against free speech as an advocate for free speech… couldn’t be musk!

cybervseas ,

Not our precious Musky!

You think this is bad? This chicanery? He’s done worse.

leraje , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
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Pure SLAPPery.

Musk will just sue, lose, appeal, lose, refile, lose and on and on until the non-profit simply run out of money.

InternetTubes , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets

A legal system that cannot penalize its abuse by people with money is vulnerable to people like him, and worse yet when whatever penalties that can be applied are not adjusted to the net worth of the person or business it is applied to.

BlinkAndItsGone , (edited ) in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets

Elon Musk’s slow transformation into Donald Trump is as disturbing as it is fascinating. Not much good at anything, but incredible at self-promotion so people think he is; obsessed with Twitter and conspiracy theories, then becoming a right-wing demagogue; refusing to pay people he owes and suing anyone who looks sideways at him. Few would have predicted this 10 years ago.

blivet ,
@blivet@kbin.social avatar

Not much good at anything, but incredible at self-promotion so people think he is

A friend of mine once made what I thought was an absolutely brilliant observation: "Self-promotion is the only skill that is consistently rewarded."

golamas1999 , in After $700 Million U.S. Bailout, Trucking Firm Is Shutting Down

If companies are deemed to big to fail then they need to be nationalized.

Mamertine ,

Nationalizing a company opens a whole new can of worms.

Do you just let them operate at a loss? How can the others in the industry compete with a company that the taxpayers subsidize to operate at a loss?

IMO, The terms of a to “big to fail” bailout should be a slow liquidation or a Ma Bell style breakup.

cath ,

Agree in principle but there was little left to nationalize with yellow.

Their fleet was composed of mostly leases. It had been gutted and infected with MBA types doing dirty MBA tricks for years now.

thisbenzingring , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets

Douche Nozzle Musk. I hope his life is only one huge failure after another.

bernieecclestoned , in Islamic State claims responsibility for Pakistan bombing, death toll rises to 45

So, Islamists killing other islamists?

Blamemeta ,

Yeah, same old. The religion of peace(that worships a warlord)(that still hasn’t had a reformation)(that is responsible for Al Qaeda, Taliban, and ISIS) is just being peaceful again.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Uh... I'll have to point out the Irish potsto famine (if you're Christian) and literally every communist regime out there (if you're atheist). But, more importantly, Islam never actually claims to be a religion of peace. Islam emphasizes fighting back against injustice (not saying that's what ISIS and crew are doing) and discourages turning the other cheek. So... Yeah, get your islamophobia right.

Tangent5280 ,

Islam never claims to be a religion of peace… Except for the legions of real life muslims that insist on that very exact same thing, so much so as to have it on banners during protests.

RichardBonham , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
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If the evidence around changes in Twitter content might be harmful to the business model and alarming to advertisers?

If the shoe fits, then what?

victron , in Musk threatens to sue researchers who documented the rise in hateful tweets
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Free speech y’all

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