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NightAuthor ,

So my question is, which is next: up or down?

Ghostalmedia OP ,

Down

Bazz ,

I was confused first too when my car had the same kind of control for media. It’s completely logical when you take a look on the playlist on your phone.

NightAuthor ,

I believe my Prius is up for next, as in go to the next highest index song.

Both make sense, so in a way neither do

Gen 2 Prius had both left and right, with the volume clearly labeled as up to the right

curiousaur ,

Is it a Japanese car?

cactusupyourbutt ,

explain?

PastyWaterSnake ,

I have a Mazda CX-5. The track seek buttons are counterintuitive IMO, and the Adaptive Cruise distance buttons are too.

Next track is UP, previous track is DOWN. Not like going down a list.

Adaptive Cruise control is UP to increase distance, DOWN to decrease. This seems like it would make sense, but I would prefer it the other way. UP to get closer, DOWN to pull back the distance

Couldbealeotard ,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

Drove a Kia once and it was the same. Up went back a track, down went forwards. Opposite of my intuition.

londos ,

Hyundai is the same, even on current models.

Couldbealeotard ,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

I have a Hyundai and this is not the case. Maybe it’s regional.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

My 2023 sonata has up for back and down for forward, which I don’t hate. It also has a separate up/down switch for the volume though, not right and left like OP’s.

VindictiveJudge ,

Those directions make sense to me. If I view a playlist on my phone or PC, it runs top to bottom and skipping a track goes down the list.

If they’re on a wheel with volume then volume should absolutely be up/down and next/back be right/left, though.

KuroiKaze ,

Current Kia isn’t like this

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is a Mini Cooper steering wheel.

1rre ,

I drove this make of car for a while; there’s an optional head up display where the up and down buttons here let you cycle through contacts/the song queue/radio stations. I’d imagine it’s the same interface without it, just displayed somewhere in the car where you’re not looking while driving.

Having it so that up/down moves you up/down through the list when there’s a visual display is way more intuitive than up/down being volume - frankly the volume bar on Windows, Mac, many TVs etc. goes from left (quiet) to right (loud) anyway

boatsnhos931 ,

People actually use the steering wheel controls??? I use the cruise buttons but that’s it

hikaru755 ,

I mean… Yes? If there’s a way to do something without having to take my hands off the steering wheel I’ll use that

venoft ,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

I mean… that’s what they’re there for.

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

Ampersands on Lemmy, mildly infuriating

Threeme2189 ,

&ampersands*

Donut ,

For me they show correctly on Eternity, unless OP has edited them by now. The trick is to use &, in case anyone is interested.

Ghostalmedia OP ,

Fixed. It was appearing correctly in Voyager, but not in the OG web client.

MrScottyTay ,

If you’re turning left, they’ll be correct

w2tpmf ,

Volume will. Next and previous will be backward.

tigeruppercut ,

My folks had a Volvo where the radio had 2 knobs and two buttons with arrows. One knob was volume, makes sense. The other knob and arrow buttons controlled the radio tuner and the thing to switch inputs from radio to cd to usb or whatever.

So on one hand you’ve got radio channels with about a hundred different options (90.1, 90.3, 90.5, etc), and on the other hand you’ve got maybe 5 different inputs. Guess which thing the knob controlled.

Nastybutler ,

So you tell us what the knobs do, then ask us what the knobs do? Is that because you lied to us, or just want to make sure we’re capable of remembering what we just read?

Gordon ,

The knob and buttons are separate controls. One controlled the frequency on the radio, one controlled the inputs.

The question was: which one do you think the knob controlled, frequency or inputs?

Nastybutler ,

Ah, gotcha. Naturally, the knob controlled the inputs, and the buttons were for the radio frequency. Sounds about right.

lipilee ,

Hey, at least it’s not a touch screen :)

andrew_bidlaw ,

Nailed it. Even the worst interface with buttons is miles away from the best touchscreen interface. You are like driving, you aren’t supposed to look at the screen and tap things on it to switch a song or whatever. You navigate a missile that weights at least two tones and can undo a crowd of pedestrians or break a wall in a building. You are in no position to focus on this tiny LED that some insane idiot mounted there. Yet, it’s there.

kameecoding ,

I have done some research into cars, some Skoda Octavias now have the issue of the infotainment just freezing on you, now thats where you control all climate and stuff imagine getting into the car you set the AC to strong and then that shit freezes and you are stuck with your AC on max freezing you up, well actually you don’t have to imagine that’s exactly what happened, lol

andrew_bidlaw ,

Of all brends, in Skoda? I thought they are promoted as a reliable budget carmaker. That’s idiotic.

cue in the end shot from The Shining, of a guy frozen to death, but behind the wheel

kameecoding ,

They are part of VAG so kind of a meh brand imo, it’s only good if you are in a country with lots of Skodas so you have access to cheap parts. I prefer Hyundai/Kia though I know they have a terrible reputation in the USA, they often top reliability in Europe.

betterdeadthanreddit ,

A member in VAG is great and all but if your quality control isn’t effective and you start slipping, pretty soon you’ll really be in the shit.

Pirasp ,

Makes perfect sense while you are holding a stick drift!

Ghostalmedia OP ,

My wife just reminded me that she was asked to take a survey about this car after she bought it.

She complained about these buttons being oriented stupidly, and the survey taker mentioned that this has been a common complaint for years. Nevertheless, BMW / Mini has stayed the course. Users be damned.

JackiesFridge ,

Begs the question - what exactly is the survey for, then?

iAvicenna ,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

probably crowd sourcing tests for more critical errors.

“did your car suddenly stop while going at 90 mph?”

JackiesFridge ,

“When was the last time your car spontaneously combusted? Please rate the level of inconvenience.”

root_beer ,

“Mmmyes, quite, I was mildly peeved, rather. My Tom Ford blazer was singed on the lapel, it took the cleaners a week to remove the soot. A week! Also, I am just a tinge dead.”

Crow ,
@Crow@lemmy.world avatar

Think of it like this. Up arrow is forward and the down arrow is back. The volume then increases from left to right like most linear scales (that aren’t up and down). Yes the buttons should be the other way but there was probably some (poor) reasoning to why they are this way.

Ghostalmedia OP ,

As someone mentioned in the comments, it might be because the media is displayed as a vertical list on the car’s display.

test1 ,
@test1@calendario-lunar.com avatar

I confirm that on a MINI Cooper the controls are also this way and the same as infuriating.

Swaziboy ,

Preach! When did you ever hear someone say “please turn the volume right” or “can you play the up track”? It drives (NPI) me crazy in my Toyotas!

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