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betwixthewires , (edited )

The problem with this is that the left is not the shining house on the hill anymore. You guys lost the fucking plot.

We aren’t talking about civil rights vs lynching anymore. You want me to pick between communism and fascism, and here’s the thing: I’m not a centrist. I’m an ideological extremist, I believe in individual liberty to an extreme. It’s not down the middle, its as far the fuck away from the both of you that I can get. Draw a picture of that guy turning around and walking away from the fork in the road, that’s me. You’re both the same.

Facebones ,

Ladies and gentlemen, the Enlightened Enlightened Centrist!

Also know as the *Curious, yet you live in a society 🤔"

Cleverdawny ,

Give me a choice between OP’s Stalinist Marxist Leninism and the fascism of the right, I unashamedly refuse both choices.

Fazoo ,
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Oh, you’re not willing to fully commit to my opinion? Enlightened centrists…

Disgusted_Tadpole ,
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That’s it, enough internet for today.

Askingforafriend ,

False dichotomy. No centrist is looking for a compromise between those two issues.

culpritus ,
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ALL LIVES MATTER

HubertManne ,

Yeah and I have no idea where the enlightened monicker comes from. Im a bit left of center but because of how my country is I would be labled by everyone except extreme left as extreme left. The extreme left of course would mark me as a sell out and just as bad as the most extreme kkk, nazis, etc because I don't want throw out capitalism completely or don't see destroying fossil fuel infrastructure as helping the environement, etc.

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    Facebones ,

    The enlightened centrists even in this thread as they step to the right in lockstep: "BuT eXtReMeS aRe BaD (only on the left though the other extremes are fine) "

    Sotuanduso ,

    In these kinds of spaces, there’s a fundamental difference between the presentation of left-wing and right-wing extremism, even though both can be seen and felt.

    Left-wing extremism is presented firsthand. "I think ". Both-extremes-bad centrists push back against that because they disagree.

    Right-wing extremism is presented secondhand. "Look at this bozo who thinks ". Both-extremes-bad centrists often don’t bother pushing back against that because the person who thinks it isn’t even there to push back against. Or sometimes they do, but it gets lost in the noise of everyone else going “yeah that’s bad,” or you can’t even tell it’s a centrist saying it because you don’t argue with them and find out.

    If you drop a legitimate both-extremes-bad centrist on Truth Social, they’re going to be pushing back against right-wing extremism there, but you won’t know because you’re not in that space.

    Facebones ,

    This is an incredibly well thought out reply. Booooooo 😂

    But yeah, I hear you. I gueesssssss.

    Sotuanduso ,

    Unironically, non-patronizingliy, kudos to you for responding maturely. A lot of people would just keep arguing.

    Though I do feel a little weird about saying the mature thing to do is admitting I have a point.

    Facebones ,

    I don’t necessarily think you’re 100% correct, but I don’t feel like bickering about it either haha. Mostly I’d argue that it’s all the same to most of them, I definitely see the CeNtRiStS going ham on left leaning third party info as previously described (look at what x did.)

    I’ve never paid much mind to the ratios but now I’m curious and ima consider it next time I’m sitting around scrolling with my thumb up my ass.

    psivchaz ,

    In theory, I’m centrist. In subjective terms, the right thinks I’m a commie and the left would think I’m basically a Nazi. In practical terms, I think that the rights of individuals should be maximized, while the rights of groups (like companies, organizations, churches, etc) should be restricted, and I don’t think that taxation is theft but I do think we should be getting a better return on our investment.

    The thing is, I pretty much only hang out in leftish spaces because the things I disagree with the left on are also less important to me. It’s easier to get along.

    bjoern_tantau ,
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    https://swg-empire.de/pictrs/image/79c7a087-71e2-4e54-9991-06234a509ec4.jpeg

    Fazoo ,
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    That’s a bingo!

    Facebones ,

    Enlightened centrists: post this meme to defend themselves

    Also Enlightened centrists to anybody left of Biden: “YOU’RE A STUPID CHILD AND MY ENEMY!”

    bjoern_tantau ,
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    Biden would be labeled centre-right where I’m from. US politics is fucked up.

    Facebones ,

    Yeah 100%. He may be the most union friendly president in a while due to an INCREDIBLY low bar but he absolutely threw rail workers under the bus HARD when push came to shove. Where are you from, out of curiosity?

    bjoern_tantau ,
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    Germany. And our “social” party is already going down the right path. Unless an election is coming up.

    And our “left” party is bosom buddies with Russia and hates foreigners. Something they have in common with our extremist right parties.

    Facebones ,

    Oh that sounds like fun 🙄

    I’ve heard alot of Europe is on the slow trot towards fascism as well, sucks to hear it’s true.

    Kalkaline ,
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    Facebones ,

    Ehhhhhh the “majority of unions” that agreed to it represent under half of affected workers unfortunately.

    Facebones ,

    Facts

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