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Cleverdawny ,

Idk where I am (US) milk is heavily regulated and more or less interchangeable. And a gallon is a gallon here.

dontcarebear ,

That is exactly the answer to this kind of “natural competition”, regulation.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Meanwhile, mutual aid and cooperation: "I have extra goods I don't need. Want them?"

"Sure, I'll distribute them around to my crew. Let us know if you need anything too."

Cleverdawny ,

That works pretty well in simple tribal societies where all that needs to be shared around is food, water, hunting supplies, and that sort of thing.

You can’t really build the smartphone or computer you posted this from with “mutual aid.” That takes very organized and technical supply chains and processes, which precludes the kind of voluntary gift economy you allude to.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

There's an entire operating system running most servers, smartphones, and embedded devices in the world right now that was created this way under a special license designed to promote code sharing and cooperation. It's famous enough that I probably don't have to mention it here. Anybody can use it, anybody can contribute.

Cleverdawny ,

You mean the one whose development is largely funded and directed by a very large mega corporation and which is almost exclusively deployed under license from that megacorp

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Linux. I'm talking about Linux.

Cleverdawny ,

Okay. Fair enough with servers but I don’t think saying that smartphones are running Linux is really descriptive. Android is a fork

TimeSquirrel , (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Same kernel, different userland. Point is, Google benefited from code others wrote. Most without compensation from Google. That's what a fork is. And the license is sticky. Even if they fork it, Google simply cannot "un-GPL" parts of its code that were originally licensed under it. They have to make it available to others, legally.

Check your phone yourself. You'll find several mentions of open source licenses in the system info section.

Cleverdawny ,

Yeah, open source software is a thing. Not common in all markets but it’s a thing. Open source hardware really is not

dontcarebear ,

Maybe not manufacturing, but there is RISC-V:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V

ComradePorkRoll ,

Mutual Aid is part of Anarchism. It’s about strengthening your sense of community and viewing your community as a means of survival without taking it for granted, like we do under capitalism. In an anarchist society, you could get a smart phone or a computer through Industrial Unionism. You should really look into these concepts.

Cleverdawny ,

I’m less interested in theoretical concepts and more interested in things that work in reality.

ComradePorkRoll ,

The only thing you seem interested in is remaining ignorant to anything that doesn’t fit your worldview.

Cleverdawny ,

That’s what I thought lol

HonestMistake_ ,

The only thing our current way of running the world is great at, is making the planet an inhospitable hellhole for the vast majority of life, so there’s that.

Cleverdawny ,

“capitalism is when overpopulation”

BuboScandiacus ,
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Then comes the third entrepreneur

Streptember ,

And the two established businesses just artificially lower their prices to keep out the competition, forcing the third to stop trying to compete.

Pinklink ,

That’s the problem with having money to lose to keep from losing money in the long term: firmly established companies with money to spare can always keep startups from succeeding, and all they have to do is wait out the limited money of smaller competitors to get back to ripping off the consumer

yogthos OP ,
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Diluting their milk with sewage.

GenderIsOpSec ,
@GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net avatar

or paying their workers even less

“its a gig! you make milk for a few hours to get some more money! grindset!!!”

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmygrad.ml avatar

fun fact, Marx actually summed up the whole gig economy in Das Kapital

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/39a81d2b-edd7-424f-8ffa-4d4927d55d29.jpeg

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

May i present you the idea of “cartel”?

Tyr_Raidho_Othala ,
@Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com avatar

I see fucktards buying the next bad Fifa and complaining. Not to be the one, but how bout not giving in to company greed?

ComradePorkRoll ,

Feels like you’re missing the point. Not giving in to company greed only goes so far, especially when you’re talking about necessities like electric, gas, food, shelter, and clothing.

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