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ninjabard ,

Funny since the other guy is running on an updated Nazi platform.

Aurenkin ,

But he’s a whole 3 years younger!

foggy ,

To the point I personally love to make…

Trump. Biden. George W. Bill Clinton.

Were all, at one point, simultaneously high school students. All born within 4 years of one another.

1992 - 2028. With the exception of Obama, all under the rule of one very, very narrow demographic.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

That generation refuses to let go. It will be amazing if they swap Biden for Hillary.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nobody wants Hillary to run. Not even Hillary.

mannycalavera ,
@mannycalavera@feddit.uk avatar

But it’s her turn!

imnotfromkaliningrad ,
@imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

they both do

yeahiknow3 ,

Found the Trump supporter.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

On what grounds? Hating Biden for being a liberal right winger propping up genocide does not make them a supporter of someone even more right wing.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Only if they refuse to vote for him to keep the even more right wing one out of office.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Biden isn’t catering to Leftist voters. That doesn’t mean pointing out Biden and the DNC as right wingers is support for Trump.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t say it was. I said refusing to vote for him is, albeit passively. Hate Biden all you want, but keep the objectively far worse guy out of power at all costs.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

The original point was that pointing out that Biden is a right wing monster makes you a Trump Supporter, which is goofy.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that is goofy. I don’t hate Biden as much as some, but I don’t particularly like him, either. Still voting for him or whoever else the Democrats dredge up to keep fascism at bay.

AnarchoBolshevik ,
@AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Tut‐tut, I see that Clinton’s electoral failure in spite of winning the popular vote hasn’t moved somebody’s faith in the pseudodemocracy. Let’s briefly review the circumstances, shall we?

Starting with the national elections of 2000:

  • Democrats have received more popular votes in 4 out of the past 5 presidential elections, yet only gained office 2 times. Despite winning the popular vote only once in the past 5 elections, a Republican has taken office 3 times.
  • Democrats have received 24 million more votes for Senate than Republicans, yet have held a majority in the Senate in only 3 out of the last 9 sessions, while Republicans have had a majority in 4 out of the past 9 sessions.
  • Democrats have received over 500,000 more votes for seats in the House of Representatives, yet have held a majority in that body for only 3 out of the past 9 sessions, while Republicans have held a majority in 6 of those sessions.

(Source and more evidence here.)

Trust me, an overglorified public opinion poll isn’t going to stop neofascism should the ruling class deem its institutionalization necessary. The Fascists ascended to power in the Kingdom of Italy and the Weimar Republic in spite of their want of votes.

AntiOutsideAktion ,
@AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml avatar

He’s not objectively far worse. He’s arguably slightly worse.

imnotfromkaliningrad ,
@imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

im literally a russian communist you liberast piece of biological waste

yeahiknow3 ,

So, Trump supporter.

ImplyingImplications ,

Seems like it should be really easy to find a democrate candidate who is both better than Biden and not a Nazi.

ours ,

And not having a foot in the grave would be nice.

yeahiknow3 ,

Why? Get him to pick an awesome VP and then kick the bucket. Sounds awesome.

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair, this is partly how I’ve been looking at it. In the event that power gets delegated to the VP, you want to know the right hand man isn’t an absolute crock of shit as well.

But surely even an old man suffering dementia is a better candidate than Trump.

Eldritch ,

They’re laying around all over the place. The thing is none of them want to run right now.

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This should make the democrat’s intentions very clear.

Snowclone ,

The sitting president is the leader of the party. He’s not going anywhere.

AntiOutsideAktion ,
@AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml avatar

One way or another he’s out of that office on Jan 20

Valmond ,

But he’s 3 y less old!!1!

ninjabard ,

And clearly takes better care of himself with all those hamberders and covfefe.

Snowclone ,

Seriously, the whole too old argument is a bulldog with rubber teeth. Trump’s a buffoon with or without cognitive decline.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would vote for the cryptkeeper. He’s the only one with better banter than Trump.

ours ,

He would… kill it during the debate.

Wild cackling

Entertainmeonly ,

His opponents would come… dead last.

Rascabin ,

Isn’t this a shot from Indiana Jones?

sentient_loom , (edited )
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

I stand by my statement.

I refuse to vote for Donovan. He’s a Nazi.

ChronosTriggerWarning ,

Not to mention he’s just shit at choosing.

Unforeseen ,

He chose… Poorly

rusticus ,

Against a felon rapist

Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

Someone fucking down voted this? Trumper fucking live here, man.

ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

You have to vote for Genocide Joe to finish off the Palestinians and throw even more asylum seekers into concentration camps and send more missiles to Nazis, otherwise you’re a fascist or something.

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Genocide Joe goes so fucking hard. It rolls off the tongue so well, I can’t stop saying it. Genocide Joe. Genocide Joe.

Lemmygradwontallowme ,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Jim Crow Joe…?

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

If’t hadn’t been for genocide Joe,
Palestine’d been free long time 'go.
Where’d you come from,
Why won’t you go?
Can y’draw a clock now, genocide Joe?

pezhore ,
@pezhore@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean at least Biden is a slow roll, Trump would rather nuke them.

Ferrous ,

This only logical conclusion to this naive utilitarianism is reaching a point 30 years from now when liberals will be frothing at the mouths in support of the dem candidate who wants 5 genocides as opposed to the republican who wants 10.

There is a legend about a certain species of caterpillar that can only cross the threshold of metamorphosis by seeing its future butterfly. Proletarian subjectivity does not evolve by incremental steps but requires non-linear leaps, especially moral self-recognition through solidarity with the struggle of a distant people, even when this contradicts short-term self-interest, as in the famous cases of Lancashire cotton workers’ enthusiasm for Lincoln and later for Gandhi. Socialism, in other words, requires non-utilitarian actors, whose ultimate motivations and values arise from structures of feeling that others would deem spiritual. Marx rightly scourged romantic humanism in the abstract, but his personal pantheon—Prometheus and Spartacus, Homer, Cervantes, and Shakespeare—affirmed a heroic vision of human possibility that no longer seems to have any purchase in our fallen world.

Mike Davis

roux ,
@roux@hexbear.net avatar

Both side should just compromise and go with 7.5 genocides.

Lemmygradwontallowme ,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Ah, yes, I would like to get firebombed than nuked…

Surely, we have no other option…

ShimmeringKoi , (edited )
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

If Isreal just wanted every Palestinian dead and nothing else, don’t you think they would have dropped their own nukes on October 8? Zionists have no interest in irradiating the manifest destiny prize they’re currently waging a doomed invasion to take.

ssm , (edited )
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If I was on the receiving end of the genocide, I would rather just have a nuke end my people’s suffering than get slowly meat-grinder’d to death by the IDF; but that’s just me.

Also bonus points for irradiating the fascists in Israel.

Midnitte ,
mobius_slip ,
Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

I’m. Not. Amused. Crypt keeper has a solid track record and is the last hope at keeping literal nazis from power. In fact, I wish he was more dead just to show that I’d vote for a pile of dirt over donald j trump.

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