That’s fine just board up his doors and tell him that he is unable to do any business until the fine is paid and then the offending material will be removed from the building by city provided workers and you take until his check clears the bank in order to finish and allow him back into the building you barricade off every single entrance and prevent entry to the building until you’re done just say it’s for safety sake we had to take this much time to make sure we did it correctly unlike what you did…
Attempting to subvert the thought experiment only makes things worse. The trolley is full of child prodigies, all future geniuses that will cure cancer and solve the world’s problems. By sticking the lever halfway you kill all of them. The only way to save the child prodigies is to choose, left or right.
You couldn’t even bother putting in adult scientists that have already helped the world. It’s a hypothetical scenario, you know, you can put in anyone you want. So I’m putting the child prodigies to a test by having the save themselves from the half-lever. Should be relatively easy for them.
Leftist is quite wide of a political side no? Also I’m very sure many Ukrainians have enough bad memories from communism to want to ban it. If we ban nazism because it’s an ideology that caused the death of millions, we should also ban communism.
That’s a false equivalency. Genocide is core to Nazi ideology. And communism didn’t cause the death of millions any more than capitalism caused the deaths of millions. It gets pretty messy when you try and attribute unintentional deaths to an economic system. And frankly, kind of gross when you conflate unintentional deaths with the very deliberate and systematic execution of people.
I support any country’s right to not be conquered by capitalist, imperialist oligarchs whether I like their internal politics or not. I hate it when the US does it, so it would be hypocritical to not hate it when Russia does the same thing.
Yup, my understanding is there is a lot of oil in Ukraine (I think donbas specifically but don’t quote me on that). And arguably more importantly, a major pipeline runs through Ukraine. My understanding is the EU is currently very reliant on Russian oil and they would very much like to not be. Hence, why Ukrainian membership to NATO is so attractive.
I think a lot of people in the West dismiss Putin as a nutjob, but I think there is a rational reason for controlling Ukraine. Oil is Russia’s largest export after all.
All of that isn’t meant to excuse Russia; it’s unethical to murder for oil. But it’s intellectually lazy to dismiss a rational actor (albeit an unethical actor) as crazy. But capitalism gonna capitalism. And until we put an end to capitalism, people are going to continue to murder for money.
Is Russia not the supplier of oil for Europe anyway? They are just rerouting it via India, knowing well they cannot have any alternative. I do not see the motive to “invade” Ukraine for “oil”. Russia is only fortifying Donbass as an independent state from Ukraine due to the horrors inflicted since 2014 US coup.
It’s really not hard to understand. Ukraine discovered huge gas deposits in Donbass, which threatened Muskovy’s ability to control the price like they wanted. There was no US coup, and the horrors inflicted have been from Muskovy.
Shocking; redfash tries to silence their critics by accusing them of antisemitism with no justification or support whatsoever. Typical red herring from someone who has no real argument.
Shocking: anti-communist denies allegations of anti-semitism while repeating nazi propaganda (Google “Jewish scholar double genocide theory” for more info on why equating communism and nazism carries water for nazis)
straw man, bc I never claimed double genocide, and 2) just bc double genocide can be used by Nazis doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Dialectics has really rotted your brain, comrade
Funny enough, my parents used Spanish as a 'secret language’s when they needed to talk about something sensitive in front of us kids (or just something they didn’t want us to understand). Was the motivation for most of us to take Spanish at some point
A lot of “loud” generalisations here or whatever here, ignoring the finer bits. I am a bit drunk, but I will tell the story as I’ve been told.
After WWII, the labour party in Norway took dominance. Their origin were communist-ish, and their sentiment, in broad strokes, were like that: the people should “seize” control, seize the means of production, and use it to create a society which used is resources to benefit the people. Later, the party turned its back on these roots, and turned to a more moderate way: Bernstein, a german thinker, argued that capitalism didn’t “collapse”, or eat it self up or something like that, as Marx predicted (?), but rather just worked, in a way. So Bernstein, and others, proposed that rather than overthrow the order, (by force) they should try to moderate, and control it, be reform. From that-ish, social democracy was born. The workers should seize power and control the market and society, to better society for all. I mean, why not (it seems self-evident)?
So, the labour party nationalized the oil (when they discovered it, US companies was at the door, and all natural resources, saying it belonged to the people, and thus could never be sold. They wrote it into the constitution. Again, why not? The workers took political power, and used it to control the “flow” and development of society. They set the term, squeezed the capital owners, but just so much that it would still be attractive to do business. And, in addition, we had oil, and fish… well, everyone wanted it - so why give it away? Why not control it to our benefit? If we have “gold”, why give it away?
Plus, from our roots, the population was not divided, of one culture, and the communist emerged from the war as saviours and heroes. Even today most people have backgrounds, and remember, their small towns, and their background of families with simple means: People were frugal, from farming background, homespun and all that, so perhaps thay was why no mafia or anything emerged here, when unions and such developed. Everone knows everbody, it’s that kind of vibe, a bit exaggerated. Even today the trust in society, and to the state etc., is sky high. I don’t even bother to check my tax returns, I trust the civil servants to do it probably. If I pay too much, I even get interest on the stuff I’m owed.
Fast forwaed, the same-ish principle stands. The labour party rules to share and create wealth for everone, equally. Even if they don’t have power: Even the “right wing” parties here are for the same thing (if someone proposed otherwise, e.g. “leave the poor to die”, they would be seen be all as pariah, like animals, and shunned by all. It’s unheard of, such atrocious attitude would make you appear worse then the worst. the right wingers just want to make it happen through private sector, while the leftists are for doing it through public sector, broadly speakers. Could have said more, for example about the three part collaboration etc., but let’s leave it at that. Take it all with a few pints worth of salt, it’s enough for a start.
But, I would emphasize, us having such a homogenous population, a kind of stable culture were everone shared the same principles, background etc. - I think that played a big part. Even today, most people believe the integrity of politicans etc. to a high degree. Even if we bicker, it’s more like family arguing. Heck, even the children of the crown prince attended public school; the king himself rode the tram when oil was in shortage (a very iconic moment in norwegian history - even if he probably rode with his chaffeur 98% of the time, the principle still stands).
inb4 oil bla bla bla, Sweden has the same welfare level (even though, here my knowledge is more very luck limited).
Thanks for reading, it rocks here (economically speaking; socially, it’s as dry as bones, we are probably worse than the finns). Love you all, Cheers!
The Smurfs were communist… though to be fair there was only 100 of them, and they all had jobs, and enough resources to go around. That one female though…
The Make-a-wish foundation visits a sick child and gift it dead parents, realizing their mistake they proceed to kill the child after one day of anguish, respectfully shake hands and congratulate each other for another job well done.
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