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moshtradamus666 , in the Germ-ans

Still funny since 2010s

EherVielleicht OP ,
@EherVielleicht@feddit.org avatar

Yep, memory leak…

Dr_01000111 , in please
@Dr_01000111@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

switch to Linux or deal with it.

BetaBlake , in the Germ-ans

Papillon in French

dubyakay ,

And Pillangó in Hungarian. I love both words.

Scrollone ,

Sommerfugl (bird of summer) in Danish :)

pseudo ,
@pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

C’est magnifique.

finitebanjo , in meta lemmy cross-instances dissing

When Musk took over Twitter he allowed violent and extremist views to flood it without moderation.

That’s the sort of community Lemmy would be if we didn’t have the tools needed to keep it clean of harmful ideologies.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

You mean like Exploding Heads? I agree, fuck Nazis.

finitebanjo ,

When nazis start enforcing their ideology I will raise arms, until then your sentiment closely resembles the goal of propagandists on these sites: create division and cause violence.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

What are you talking about? Exploding Heads is a literal Nazi Lemmy Instance that was defederated by pretty much every major instance.

Or are you going on an Anticommunist rant?

finitebanjo , (edited )

I have no context about the community, I assumed you were advocating for exploding heads of political enemies as a way of keeping feeds clean, because the comment explicitly reads as such.

There is nothing communist about Nazis, just like theres nothing Democratic about the DPRK.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

I have no context about the community, I assumed you were advocating for exploding heads of political enemies as a way of keeping feeds clean, because their comment explicitly reads as such.

That’s certainly a leap. Exploding Heads is a Nazi Lemmy Instance.

There is nothing communist about Nazis, just like theres nothing Democratic about the DPRK.

So it was a random anticommunist rant, unprovoked, lmao

finitebanjo , (edited )

If anything I said seems anticommunist to you then clearly you don’t know what communism is.

You should start referring to the nazi community “exploding heads” as “the nazi community “exploding heads”” if you dont want people to think of heads which are exploding.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

I know quite well what Communism is, thank you very much. You’re openly pro-NATO and anti-Communist.

finitebanjo ,

Lmao bro thinks the dictatorship country with the 2nd most billionaires is Communist.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Are you talking about the DPRK?

finitebanjo ,

Lol no

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar
finitebanjo ,

Lmao

goferking0 ,

And those harmful ideologies are.?

finitebanjo ,

White Supremacy, Anti-immigrant, Anti-Trade, Anti-NATO, Anti-human-rights for LGBT, etc.

Simmy ,

You like warmongers NATO?

goferking0 ,

Who do you think are supporting those?

finitebanjo , (edited )

Elon Musk, owner of Xitter

The fuck is that question?

goferking0 ,

In context of lemmy… Really quick to anger

finitebanjo , (edited )

Well I certainly could make comparisons but thats a little irrelevnt. The core of my statement is that Lemmy doesn’t operate the way Twitter does.

For me “the fuck is that question” is just a colloquial expression of confusion, not anger.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Anti-Trade

What does this mean?

Anti-NATO

It’s good to be Anti-NATO, NATO has Nazi origins and serves as a way to maintain Western Hegemony, securing profits via Imperialism and defending said Imperialism through coalition.

finitebanjo ,

Lmao

Mutual defense and deterrent to invasion by hostile world powers both in and outside of NATO is a bad thing? Sure, okay pal.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s an alliance between Imperialist countries, and the alliance itself has Nazi origins and has had Nazi leaders. Yes, it’s a bad thing, because Imperialism is a bad thing.

It’s a gang of countries that hyper-exploit the Global South in mutual defense against said Global South.

finitebanjo , (edited )

It’s literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries, and NATO exerts military pressure on the Global South.

Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

Bzzzzt wrong. NATO’s only function is to preserve Western Hegemony and dominate the Global South militarily, so that member-States can continue exploiting ruthlessly unopposed. This results in proxy wars, such as the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

finitebanjo , (edited )

Its not expansionist because you have to request to join.

The only objecting countries whose wishes you’re referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Its not expansionist because you have to request to join

Bzzzzt wrong. NATO is expansionist because it pressures non-member states and routinely starts proxy wars.

The only countries whose wishes you’re referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

Bzzzzzt wrong. Western Hegemony damages the Global South and NATO keeps member-states unaccountable.

finitebanjo , (edited )

You’re accusing America of causing Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent war on Ukraine?

You think Russia is working for NATO?

Pressuring people into a mutual defence pact lol such an evil thing lol

KillingTimeItself ,

It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries

this isn’t super accurate, joining nato has some pretty strict requirements, and besides yeeting NATO would be like the west completely nuking china and russia because “they did a human rights violation” it’s just a dogwhistle lmao.

FeelThePower ,

it’s lemmyworld… they’ll never learn that they aren’t on reddit anymore.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/f2529fc4-f811-4596-a82a-064e378ee3a6.jpeg

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Also, don’t send us reports just because you don’t agree with someone. We’re not here to censor people for you.

finitebanjo ,

Oh no! So you want to talk about how the mutual self defence pact is somehow oppressing you or will you just keep dodging forever?

Sodium_nitride ,

Nato is as much a “mutual defense” pact as sea lions are lions. These guys bombed Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq and countless other nations. The members of Nato have repeatedly cooperated with each other, using the military networks built through the alliance to wage proxy wars, perform coups, destabilise regions of the world at a scale never before seen in human history.

You might as well call the axis a mutual defense alliance lmao.

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Reason: User threatens me not to report his alt accounts for misinformation again

What alt accounts? What are you even talking about? That’s two bullshit reports in one day, wasting our time.

Reason: Claimes NATO forces other nations into subservience.

KillingTimeItself ,

What does this mean?

anti globalist, economically it’s just universally bad, it also likely harms the spread of culture as well, which is a good thing.

It’s good to be Anti-NATO, NATO has Nazi origins and serves as a way to maintain Western Hegemony, securing profits via Imperialism and defending said Imperialism through coalition.

most sane lemmy.ml take

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar
KillingTimeItself ,

brother every ethnic german in the world has ties with the third reich.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

They were literal Nazi Party members. Read the article.

KillingTimeItself ,

yeah and so was that one guy that spoke at the one thing in canada, the entirety of canada is now tied with nazis.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

They were leaders of NATO, not speaking at a NATO event.

You’re working overtime to normalize Nazism.

KillingTimeItself ,

bro i have spent the equivalent of 12 seconds on this thread. Donald trump was the US president, is the entire fucking country fascist now because of him?

Sodium_nitride ,

I mean America is a fascist country though. After all, it still has legalised slavery and killed millions of innocent people in this century alone. It’s only natural for such a country to elect fine specimens just as Trump or Biden.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

The United States, as in the State itself? Yes, actually, however I’m sure you understand that literal fucking Nazis leading NATO is a sign of it being Nazi friendly, don’t you think?

KillingTimeItself ,

(the answer was no btw, unless you have really strong proof that there is a government structure of loyalty and power grabbing currently in place, you’re dead in the water on that one)

Also the united states is a collection of states, so technically it’s not a collective state, but a country, the individual states themselves are irrelevant, unless texas is directly sending israel money for the war or something.

however I’m sure you understand that literal fucking Nazis leading NATO is a sign of it being Nazi friendly, don’t you think?

i would be inclined to agree with you in the case that like, they were pushing nazi ideals, and like, hated jews. Or something.

Also i’m not even sure this is accurate today? How many original nazis are even still alive?

I’m also assuming that when you say “leaders of NATO” you mean “a member of NATO” NATO is literally just a military alliance, it’s not like it has a governmental structure, at best it has a democratic process, or something like that, but im guessing you probably don’t even know how NATO works beyond the fact that it had a nazi in it once and that is bad maybe.

You have to give me more information than “there was a nazi in NATO once” before i can even begin to consider whether or not this is a good or a bad or completely ambivalent thing.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Being Chairman of NATO’s Military Committee from being a Nazi chief of Army Operations is the same as “just a few Nazis in NATO?”

KillingTimeItself ,

statistically, yes, and realistically, probably even more charitable than that.

It looks like they also have a three year appointment, idk about re-appointments, but i assume not. Aside from the fact that US generals can’t be appointed. Which you would probably like.

assuming we’re talking about the same dude (Adolf Heusinger), it looks like he didn’t even really do anything? He lead invasions, but that seems to be it, he testified in the Nuremberg trials. He worked in the military prior to the nazis, and he continued to work for the military after the war as well, for west germany.

This either guy (Hans_Speidel) literally tried to assassinate hitler? Looks like he may have had some involvement in the spicy shit, but it seems like he also didn’t really agree with it either. Dude was also jailed by the gestapo.

Neither of these really seem like they would compromise the entire fucking structure of NATO to me.

ChairmanMeow ,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

I do not think this is a strong argument. Nobody considers NASA to be the “space Nazis” either, just because some employees had connections with Nazi Germany. It’s a huge leap to claim NATO follows or is connected to some Nazi ideology based on this.

SailorMoss ,

anti globalist, economically it’s just universally bad

Right… NAFTA was universally beloved and was never taken advantage of by unsavory political characters. I’m sure you have some very unkind words for Biden after he continued and expanded Trump’s trade war.[/s]

KillingTimeItself ,

funnily enough my comment was removed, unsure why, pretty sure it was mostly accurate though lol.

I’m sure you have some very unkind words for Biden after he continued and expanded Trump’s trade war.

it’s a fine balance between putting a 20% tariff on literally every import (i believe trump wanted to do this) and putting a 100% tariff on chinese EVs to give the american auto market a leg to stand on.

It’s a give and take, like everything is. But regardless, globalism is generally good for the economy.

SailorMoss ,

It is weird that your comment was removed.

it’s a fine balance between putting a 20% tariff on literally every import (i believe trump wanted to do this) and putting a 100% tariff on chinese EVs to give the american auto market a leg to stand on.

Right this is the contradiction I was poking fun at.

Personally, I prefer the carrot to the stick approach. I think we should do more stuff like the chips act and less stuff like tariffs. This is especially true in the context of technology that aids in the transition to an economy that uses less fossil fuels. The ~$10,000 Chinese EVs would be a pretty massive tool in that arsenal. (Though not as good of a tool as they are in China because of China’s genuinely impressive rail system.) If you want more American made EVs —cool so do I— but we will get there faster with the right industrial policy. The tariffs do little to make that happen.

KillingTimeItself ,

It is weird that your comment was removed.

yeah idk i’ve seen weird shit happen a few times so far, btw if you’re a mod and remove shit, please tell people why even if its literally just quoting what they said that got it deleted.

Right this is the contradiction I was poking fun at.

yeah, if you’re a globalism absolutist that would be silly, but tariffs are a useful market force, they allow competition in market sectors that wouldn’t otherwise exist. Farming gets a lot of subsidies for these reasons, and when we’re talking about shit like non essentials a chinese EV specifically, the implications of it on the market are a lot less significant than something like tariffing AA batteries produced outside of america.

The trump admin tariffed canadian lumber imports. Why? There’s a reason they have a lumber industry, it’s because they can do it for cheaper than we can (they have a lot more wooded lands, and a lot less people living there)

yes a 100% tariff on EVs is quite significant, but then again, we have a massive domestic auto manufacturing capability, as well as a general lack of need for “foreign EVs” it might make the market cheaper and more accessible, but that’s coming eventually anyway.

Personally, I prefer the carrot to the stick approach. I think we should do more stuff like the chips act and less stuff like tariffs. This is especially true in the context of technology that aids in the transition to an economy that uses less fossil fuels. The ~$10,000 Chinese EVs would be a pretty massive tool in that arsenal. (Though not as good of a tool as they are in China because of China’s genuinely impressive rail system.) If you want more American made EVs —cool so do I— but we will get there faster with the right industrial policy. The tariffs do little to make that happen.

i’m generally inclined to agree especially on a federal level, IMO i think that tariffs generally have a really subtle market effect, and i think that’s generally the intention of them. They aren’t meant to be massive blanket sweeps. If you really wanted to incentivize people to own EVs you wouldn’t import them at 0% tariff, you would just subsidize owning or buying an EV. You would just make it more accessible, you fund domestic production and development of EVs.

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve got bad news for you: a lot of us are anti-NATO.

Also, what the hell is anti-trade? Do you want every Westphalian state to build a wall around itself?

Edit to add: Oh I see, you created this new account because @FiniteBanjo got permabanned from lemmy.ml 😂 Let’s see how long this one lasts…

finitebanjo ,

A lot of X Users support ending all trade relations with China via heavy tarriffs.

finitebanjo ,

Don’t accuse me of circuimventing the rules, I really don’t care if an instance full of you CCP Nazis show up in my feed.

Must have been a long time ago because I don’t see it in the breif look through the modlog.

IAmNotACat ,

anti-NATO

A “harmful ideology”? Is someone paying you to spout this propaganda?

finitebanjo ,

NATO’s only function is mutual defense, NATO support ends when a member attacks.

Since the only thing NATO does is prevent War, the only anti-NATO stance is a pro-war stance.

IAmNotACat ,

The invasion of Libya was a NATO-led effort.

Stop lying.

finitebanjo ,

Are you referring to the coalition of some NATO members and some non-NATO members (19 nations total) enforcing a United Nations Security Council decision to make an immediate ceasefire and end the civil war in Libya?

The one with zero troops on the ground?

Being in NATO had no impact on the events, NATO member support was not mandatory as per the terms of NATO. The only reason they even call it a NATO operarion was because Itally would only vote in favor of the operation if NATO members were in charge instead of France.

IAmNotACat ,

The reason for NATO’s involvement is quite irrelevant because they were still happy to step in and do the work. The fact is that it was ultimately NATO-led and their efforts did not lead to peace in the region.

To call NATO’s involvement in Libya ‘anti-war’ is sheer lunacy.

graphene ,
@graphene@lemm.ee avatar

Ah yes, free trade, the thing that improved the economies of ex-communist countries after the USSRs collapse and is on the path to fixing almost every African nations poverty.

Ah yes, NATO, the “we will only call for (and maybe possibly do something to enforce) human rights if it’s convenient for us” alliance. And I’m sure all it’s member nations have squeaky clean track records when it comes to international politics.

We must ban anyone against these things! That’s dangerous extremist ideology

TokenBoomer , in meta lemmy cross-instances dissing

lol, true.

KellysNokia , in AI bros

No bro, you didn’t use enough ✨✨✨✨ emoji

lugal , in the Germ-ans

Zangendeutsch: Butterfliege

dharmacurious ,

What is zangendeutsch? Google isn’t giving me much in the way of English answers

lugal ,

It’s basically an insider from a German meme community here on lemmy. The community is called ich_iel (a translation of me_irl) and people use bad literal translations from English as a joke and call it Zangendeutsch. Butterfliege is a literal translation of butterfly but not the real translation.

dharmacurious ,

I wish I spoke German. That’s exactly my type of humor. Lol

accideath ,

It’s never too late to learn. Just don’t use the ich_iel community as study material or you’ll end up speaking a very strange kind of German.

dharmacurious ,

I mean, it’d have to go better than my attempts at learning Spanish. Lol. 5 new years resolutions in a row!

PlexSheep ,

Tja

AI_toothbrush , in meta lemmy cross-instances dissing

Funny coming from an ml user because you are the guys who banned me because i commented something you didnt agree with

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

OP is not a Lemmy.ml user, nor do users have the power to ban you. You’re tilting at windmills.

Nakoichi ,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

What did you get banned for?

big-honk

What did you get banned for mfer

ArchRecord , in AI bros

I have never once found an “AI” feature integrated by a corporation useful.

I have only ever found “AI” useful when it’s unobtrusive, and something I chose to use manually. Sometimes an LLM is useful to use, but I don’t need it shilled to me inside a search bar or in a support chat that won’t solve my problem until I bypass the LLM.

flambonkscious ,

What were the useful scenarios, if you don’t mind?

Xanvial ,

ChatGPT itself is usually useful. I usually asked it to explain something new as a base start for searching it myself

ArchRecord ,

I primarily end up using LLMs through DuckDuckGo’s private frontend alongside a search, so if my current search doesn’t yield the correct answer to my question (i.e. I ask for something but those keywords only ever turn up search results on a different, but similar topic) then I go to the LLM and ask a more refined question, that otherwise doesn’t produce any relevant results in a traditional keyword search.

I also use integrated LLMs to format and distill my offhand notes, (and reformat arbitrary text based on specific criteria repeatedly for structured notes,) learn programming syntax more at my own pace and in my own way, and just generally get answers on more well-known topics a lot faster than I would scrolling past 5 pages of SEO-“optimized” garbage just designed to fill time for the ads to load before actually giving me a good answer.

Wogi ,

I have occasionally found the Google search AI handy in pointing me in the right direction, like when I can’t remember or don’t know a particular term for something, it’s decent at giving me the term I’m actually searching for. Can’t trust it for shit as it’s intended to be used though.

ArchRecord ,

Oh yeah, it’s definitely useful for that!

Since LLMs are essentially just very complicated probabilistic links between words, it seems to be extremely good at picking the exact word or phrase that even a thesaurus couldn’t get me.

Diurnambule ,

At work I use the summary function in edge to generate code since all tohet llm are blocked. It is really helpful to burp templates of programs when you tell it your grand mother is dying

LouNeko ,

I find customer support service Chatbots useful, they tend to ask the right questions before connecting me to an actual human, so I don’t have to explain myself over and over. They also categorize your problem so you won’t be forwarded 3 times till you finally reach the right department. They’re essentially like the “press 1 to…, press 2 to…” shtick during a service call, except the customer support person has access to your chat history.

ArchRecord ,

I find those kinds of chatbots useful, but those aren’t the ones I encounter 90% of the time. Most of the time, it’s a chatbot that summarizes the help articles I just read, giving faulty interpretations of the source material, that then goes on to never direct me to a real person unless I tell it multiple times that the articles it’s paraphrasing aren’t helping. (and sometimes, they have no live support at all, and only an LLM + support articles)

moshtradamus666 , in the Germ-ans

That’s funny, in Brazilian Portuguese ‘mariposa’ means ‘moth’, and the word for ‘butterfly’ is ‘borboleta’. TDIL.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

‘borboleta’

Lol sounds like medieval siege engine name

steelyDansSteamedHam , in the Germ-ans

Afrikaans: skoenlapper, which translates to shoe licker.

Vitaly OP , in Asking gemini if google is a monopoly
@Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

Google confessed to me. So all the google money is now mine, lol

Vitaly OP , in Asking gemini if google is a monopoly
@Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

Now we need to ask microsoft and others

MewtwoLikesMemes , in i believe i have found a rule.
@MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world avatar

Oh good god no please not this rule shit again.

There’s a reason I blocked !196. Gah.

daniskarma , in meta lemmy cross-instances dissing

Everyone likes dialectics and agree that it’s the best method to learn and move the thinking forward… Until they actually met with some antithesis of their thinking.

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