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mycodesucks , in Damnit, another year of disappointment. 27 years this year....
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ThePJN , in I hate excel so much
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Excel is okay as long as it stays in its lane.

It is not okay if you’ve ever worked in a printshop or do graphic design and people send in newsletters or brochures or some shit done within Excel.

Excel is many things; it is not fit to layout documents. Blegh.

helpImTrappedOnline ,

To be fair word isn’t good at it either.

I’ve found setting a PowerPoint slide to standard paper size is the best for quick page layout and “graphic design” for things like a poster or sign.

Rediphile ,

*Cries in vector

ThePJN ,
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Word being a word processor also sucks at document layout. Most software that isn’t made for laying out documents suck at it, but people all try. My god do they try…

helpImTrappedOnline ,

Add one small image to word and the whole page goes nuts:

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Tlaloc_Temporal ,
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What software is good for document layout anyway? Something with PDFs?

Ephera ,

There’s so-called desktop publishing software.

In the open-source world, I typically see Scribus recommended.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,
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I’m probably dead wrong somehow, but I don’t see why these aren’t the standard text document software. Is there some part of just a solid wall of text that can’t be done with DPS? Is the limitations of word processors somehow good for office use to the exclusion of slightly interesting formatting?

Ephera ,

Yeah, I find the similarity most striking with LibreOffice Draw vs. LibreOffice Writer. It very much feels like Draw is just a superset of the features of Writer.

There is certainly some differences, though, e.g. text doesn’t automatically overflow onto new pages, text boxes don’t automatically increase in size, things like that.
Everything is a lot more static, which is great for layout, and less great, if you just need to type out some text.

Windows2000Srv ,

Automatic formatting. Try to have an automatic table of content with and automatic index of tables in draw, it’s not available. When I write a lab report, I don’t want to check every page to make sure the title 3 is still on page 4.

Formatting software are good at manual formatting. Word processors are good at convenience. Once you know your way around, you can be fairly good at formatting with them, and you get the advantages of having some automatic features.

ThePJN ,
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Adobe sucks but InDesign is still pretty much the standard; it begrudgingly does a pretty good job.

Affinity Publisher is coming along nicely though. And yeah Scribus is not too bad either.

cleverusername , in The dinosaur paradox
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I had a stroke trying to read that!

10_0 , in The meaning of life

The Wanting is the source of all suffering

blackluster117 , in Damnit, another year of disappointment. 27 years this year....
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You just reminded me that Terminator: Zero dropped on Netflix today. I know what I’m watching tonight.

wuphysics87 , in I hate excel so much

Excel can be it’s own kind of awful, but using it with other people makes me want to jump off a bridge onto a rusty bed of nails. They move cells around, change the labels on columns, color cells with no benefit, change half a sheet to comic sans, they fucking send you back “bullshit-v1.0-good.xlsx” then ”garbage name v0.3_gooder.csv”. Jesus fuck. The shitty thing has built in version control you ignorant fuck!

ImperialATAT , in This makes my brain hurt
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Spoiler. This is exactly what it’s like having kids.

hemko ,

Can confirm

gregor OP ,

I’ll skip that level

mycodesucks , in Don't need legs to be stand-up guy
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Username (of poster, not OP) checks out.

kambusha ,

scargiver

kurwa , in Damnit, another year of disappointment. 27 years this year....

It’s actually 27 years.

boogetyboo , in This makes my brain hurt
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bruhduh , in I hate excel so much
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But there’s libreoffice calc tho

Defenestrator , in Memes vs Reality

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism it’s just the opposite.

Darohan ,

Woman empowers woman?

Catsrules ,

Communism has been feminism all along.

Alsephina ,
Cowbee ,
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Under Capitalism, the bourgeoisie exploits the proletariat. Under Communism its just the opposite.

Binette ,

How can the prolétariat exploit the bourgeoisie if they’re not even productive enough?

datelmd5sum , in Almost a holiday weekend!

ketamine?

djsaskdja ,

Just stay away from the Honda Civic

DNOS ,

Yeah those are too expencive

unreachable , in Almost a holiday weekend!
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attempt , in I hate excel so much

As a CPA I can attest Excel is really useful for financial data analysis and problem solving. It takes time to learn, and there are limitations to manage, but when you know what you’re doing it really gets out of your way so you can focus your attention on the work product instead of the tool.

On how I got efficient, when I started my career I tried to optimize any task I had to perform repetitively, and after 3 years everything was pretty fast. After that I tried to optimize one process every month, and now I have a pool of ideas to pull from when problem solving.

AliSaket ,

As an engineer I can attest that it is also useful for quick calculations and illustrations, especially at the concept stage. We also ran process “simulations” in it for fun, but of course something like SciLab would be better suited for it. The possibility to simultaneously work in the same spreadsheet was also a godsend during lock-downs.

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