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velox_vulnus , in Milk: a video essay

People who waste food are the biggest losers.

SmilingSolaris OP ,

I drank as much as I could if that makes you feel better

Dark_Dragon , in Flat to not flat

Hear me out guys, what if he is not a flat earther rather did the youtube channel to change flat earthers who joined him to change their concept. Man doing lords work.

chemical_cutthroat , in i shall simply remain illiterate
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I read and write, so I imagine I look like the tip picture, but really I look like the bottom.

neo ,

I don’t think being on Lemmy counts as reading and writing. hehe

gcheliotis , in Flat to not flat

Turning over to the round side seems to have garnered a lot more views. I wonder whether he would have stayed flat if it were otherwise. After all many more are making content online in the hopes of money and fame than in some quest for truth.

Caesium , in i shall simply remain illiterate

My favorite thing I learned while researching for writing was that hunter-gatherers worked less hours than the modern human 🙃

iirc the article stated ‘work’ as when they hunted, not for stuff like cooking and crafting

Michal ,

To be fair, there were a lot fewer people then, so they didn’t have to compete for resources as much, and you could get a nice cave for dirt cheap

Thcdenton ,

There’s so much fucking land owned by the govt. They’re squeezing us together to keep their machine going.

Bernie_Sandals , (edited )
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

Which government are you talking about? Most land owned by the government in the U.S. is either worthless desert, contracted out to the private sector, or the small bit leftover that’s actually used by the federal government.

QuantumSparkles ,

There’s so much property owned by companies that are fucking empty because of the insane rent while four generations of a family are huddled together in a single apartment the size of a bathroom

sparkle ,
ignotum , in I can see paradise by the cooler light

Amen! 🙏

Crashumbc , in Flat to not flat

If only there was some way to do this to the MAGA cultists…

ThrowawaySobriquet , in Erdtree sm sm

If I had a kid that asked for Newports, I’d just give em to them. Kinda curious to see where that goes

gnomesaiyan ,
@gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world avatar

Probably Shriner’s or St. Jude’s.

Chainweasel ,

I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be a juice box

HonkTonkWoman ,

That’s how Big Tobacco gets ya…

Donkter ,

Nah. Wife wants coke, a brick of hash, bottle of pills, some meat and some sausage. Kid wants a sandwich and some ciggies.

ineffable , in Request: Mini truck or van racing toward a concrete pole, but never arrives.
socphoenix ,

That is a wonderfully destructive ending!

Veedem ,
@Veedem@lemmy.world avatar

Have to be honest…

I thought you were going to fool us with the “with ending” link.

NataliePortland ,
@NataliePortland@lemmy.ca avatar

Same! And then it even started the same way. I was already laughing at a good prank

Rolando ,

Make sure you listen to Eye of the Tiger: 30 minute intro while watching that.

EchoCT ,

I don’t know what I clicked on that. It was exactly what it says.

eightpix OP ,
@eightpix@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the one. I’m holding off on watching the ending. After I see it, this meme will be broken for me.

I’ll finish watching the dishes, and then I’ll view the ending.

HonkTonkWoman ,

Don’t forget to track down the sequel. It’s pretty good too.

eightpix OP ,
@eightpix@lemmy.world avatar

Viewed. Thought it’d be even more catastrophic.

loaExMachina , in I can see paradise by the cooler light

Ain’t no doubt about it that liquor is blessed

HonkTonkWoman ,

The Red Bull of Christ… The Jaeger of Heaven. Take this in remembrance of…

that time we got back out & I bit a police horse.

pyrflie , in This company is the laughing stock of gaming right now

All this has done is taught me not to BUY Ubisoft games.

Risk ,

I learnt that over a decade ago.

Don’t buy a Ubisoft, EA, or frankly any big publisher game.

pyrflie ,

Good on ya. Don’t BUY them.

anon5621 ,

One exception is CD Project Red.U can buy cyberpunk through their store on gog.com and u will exactly owning it since u will able to download executable installer and game will have no DRM.Pay once own forever,same for witcher 3 and other games which they distribute on gog.com

LinyosT ,

I wouldn’t trust CDPR so easily yet after how diabolical the launch of CP2077 was.

black0ut ,
@black0ut@pawb.social avatar

The launch was terrible, but there are some things that keep them apart from the rest of terrible launches.

Cyberpunk 2077 was a really ambitious game, with a lot of new mechanics and incredible graphics. Beasts like that are really difficult to optimize for a large range of computers with different specs, so at first it ran poorly on some.

The most notably buggy release was the PS4 one. And rightfully so. They were trying to run a truly next gen game on a console which was more than a decade old. They not only had to optimize the game, but they basically made a completely different game, with different assets and engines, which was really difficult to do. Still, it was too much for the console, especially old PS4s that were full of dust or had old fans and were overheating.

Another important fact is that users were also pressuring CDPR into releasing Cyberpunk 2077. It was delayed at least once (maybe twice, I don’t remember), and people wanted to play the game. They probably had to choose between delaying it another time or releasing it without polishing it that much.

I believe it was Cyberpunk 2077 that started the trend of “release now fix later” games. However, I don’t think they really did it on purpose. The game was too ambitious for its own good, and having to develop, optimize and test two basically different versions of it was too big of a task for a studio that in today’s terms wasn’t even that big. The rest of the AAA producers just realized that CDPR still won loads of money at launch, and decided to release incomplete games on purpose, after seeing that CDPR could make profits that way.

But must importantly, CDPR did an amazing job at fixing the game, unlike many other studios releasing broken AAAs. They optimized the code, fixed most of the bugs, improved the AI massively and made the game really stable, to the point where I’ve seen it running at 40 FPS on 10+ year old overheating laptops. Even though it took a while, they still delivered the game they promised to their buyers.

TheOakTree ,

I would argue No Man’s Sky started the trend of “release now fix later” but I suppose they are not a big AAA studio. I suppose CDPR wasn’t really considered as AAA until the release of Witcher 3.

TachyonTele ,

You guys don’t have good long-term memory.

TheOakTree ,

Thanks for providing a lot of insight to the conversation.

LinyosT , (edited )

It doesn’t take that much to go and find out about games like AC:Unity and Arkham Knight that predate NMS. In fact I’m pretty sure Ubisoft and EA are the two companies most notorious for “Release broken fix later” to give you a head start on looking into things.

Discourse surrounding broken game launches/Release Broken Fix Later has been around a bit longer than NMS.

TachyonTele ,

Insight? You mean 30+ years of game releases?

Just because No Mans Sky was your first computer game, that has zero bearing on, you know, everything else

JackbyDev ,

I believe it was Cyberpunk 2077 that started the trend of “release now fix later” games.

Hardly. That’s been a thing for a while now.

TachyonTele ,

Decades

psud ,

I think release then fix became common as soon as internet distribution became practical

Back when everything was on physical media the releases were more polished

TachyonTele ,

Yeah I agree.

Makes me wonder how many updates did Half-life 2 get? That was the first single player game I remember requiring an online connection.

LinyosT , (edited )

Cyberpunk 2077 was a really ambitious game, with a lot of new mechanics and incredible graphics. Beasts like that are really difficult to optimize for a large range of computers with different specs, so at first it ran poorly on some.

What about all the other “Ambitious games” that we’ve had over the years that come out just fine? A game being ambitious does not excuse a company releasing the game in what is blatantly an unfinished state. This isn’t the case of a game having a few performance hiccups here and there but rather egregious bugs and severe performance issues across the board. This is stuff that is all over youtube, reddit, twitter and so on. It’s pretty well documented how bad the game was.

The most notably buggy release was the PS4 one. And rightfully so. They were trying to run a truly next gen game on a console which was more than a decade old. They not only had to optimize the game, but they basically made a completely different game, with different assets and engines, which was really difficult to do. Still, it was too much for the console, especially old PS4s that were full of dust or had old fans and were overheating.

Again, this really isn’t an excuse. They had the power the can the next gen versions of the game if it was so difficult to pull off. They also had the power to delay the game in order to make sure that it was ready for launch. They could have done so many things such that the last gen versions of the day would either never see the light of day or be ready for launch. CDPR are a big enough studio to pull something like this off. They’re not a small indie studio.

Another important fact is that users were also pressuring CDPR into releasing Cyberpunk 2077. It was delayed at least once (maybe twice, I don’t remember), and people wanted to play the game. They probably had to choose between delaying it another time or releasing it without polishing it that much.

Yes, there may have been pressure. But no, the consumer base does not have anywhere near enough power over corporations like you’re trying to imply. Games aren’t just released early because “Oh no the consumers are getting angy”. Though once again this was their fault due to them giving the consumer a completely unrealistic initial release date that they obviously could not hit, considering the absolute state of the game at launch.

The most likely explanation is that they were simply trying to get the game out as soon as possible to cash in and they absolutely did not want to miss a major sales period such as Christmas. They were simply trying to drop a minimal viable product with plans to fix it later. Turns out they dropped a less than minimally viable product in their rush to make some dosh. Knowingly too if you look into the allegations that I’ll link later.

I believe it was Cyberpunk 2077 that started the trend of “release now fix later” games.

No. “Release broken fix later” has been a thing for maybe the last decade. Do people not remember shitshows like AC:Unity? Cyberpunk is most definitely not the first game to be “Release broken, fix later”.

However, I don’t think they really did it on purpose.

I don’t think it was dropped broken on purpose. But I do think it was an attempt to drop the usual bare minimum product. Just so happens that they miscalculated and dropped something less than minimal. It’s still gross incompetence and shows the consumer they’re more than willing to drop something bare minimum with the promise of fixing it later. Rather than dropping a complete game.

The game was too ambitious for its own good, and having to develop, optimize and test two basically different versions of it was too big of a task for a studio that in today’s terms wasn’t even that big.

Again, not an excuse. They’re a massive studio, big enough to have people that know how to plan a project like this, people that understand their limitations and what is or isn’t achievable. It’s standard project planning practice.

But even then there are allegations that people in the company were aware that the game was not ready to launch.

gamesradar.com/new-report-suggests-cdpr-staff-kne…

And yet they still dropped the game.

There is no excuse for the launch of CP2077.

The rest of the AAA producers just realized that CDPR still won loads of money at launch, and decided to release incomplete games on purpose, after seeing that CDPR could make profits that way.

The industry learned this about a decade ago. We’ve been plagued by half baked launched for so long at this point that you don’t have to go far to find out about it.

But must importantly, CDPR did an amazing job at fixing the game, unlike many other studios releasing broken AAAs.

In this case I think it’s less fixing the game and more finishing the development of the game, all things considered. The thing they should have done before releasing the game as if it was a finished product when, in fact, it clearly wasn’t.

There’s fixing a game and there’s what CDPR had to do to CP2077.

Yes, a lot of companies don’t fix their games. But at the same time most of these companies don’t release their games in such a state that they start getting into legal trouble over the launch of their game.

arstechnica.com/…/investors-settle-cyberpunk-2077…

nme.com/…/cyberpunk-2077-investigated-polish-cons…

Cyberpunk was such a massive disaster that they didn’t really have much choice other than to finish working on their game. To repair the massive hit to their PR as well as other issues such as the class action and the whole debacle with Sony kicking the game of the PS Store.

Even though it took a while, they still delivered the game they promised to their buyers.

Yes, it’s good that they stuck with the game and did more than the bare minimum to bring it to a better state. But it’s not exactly something to praise them over. It took them ~2 years to bring the game to a state that it should have been in at launch. Instead of launching the game in a finished state, they knowingly dropped the game in an unfinished state. They also put out a review embargo preventing reviewers from informing the consumer about said issues, they actively worked to mislead the consumer about the state of their game.

What CDPR did is absolutely not excusable under any circumstances.

Their next projects should absolutely be scrutinised until they prove that they have learned from their mistakes.

Buddahriffic ,

IMO a fumbled and later recovered launch is different from the enshitification of video games like P2W, MTX in general, lootboxes, releasing what should be patches as paid DLC, invasive DRM and anti-cheat. I’d file all of those under bad design, while a bad launch is more of a bad execution. There can be overlap, like if they fully intended for early players to fill the role of beta testers.

The way I approach it is I try to avoid the bad design stuff entirely but just avoid buying new games at release and definitely never pre-order. I’ll also support games in early release if I really like the concept and want to give them a better chance at being able to pull it off, but I go into those with the understanding that it’s not complete right now and there’s a chance it never will be. But I don’t see any reason to hold anything against the games that have messy launches but later recover.

Though I’ve learned to not jump on the hype train and that makes it much easier to not take any of this stuff personally.

TokenBoomer , in i shall simply remain illiterate

Ewan McGregor?

Fredselfish ,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

So fucking true! Meaning we are poor and always a little crazy.

reddthat_209 , in i shall simply remain illiterate

I LOL’ed at the writer Pic, not sure why, but LOL

Rhynoplaz ,

Probably because that’s the punchline of the joke. That was the designer’s intent, so, good job!

irish_link , in Are we the baddies?

I disagree. Most Americans know we are the fire nation/empire from Star Wars.

Well at least most people I know.

LNRDrone ,

So…sure we are the baddies, but it’s OK because America?

NocturnalMorning ,

Don’t think that’s what OP meant.

pyrflie ,

OP wants a fairy tail.

40K is just worst case Grimms.

NocturnalMorning ,

Don’t know how you got that from one statement.

Rakonat ,

Enlightened 40Kism, we know we are the bad guys, cause there are no good guys, just worse villians.

original_reader ,

What is 40Kism?

Revan343 ,

In Warhammer 40K, the Imperium of Man are awful, but they’re the ‘good guys’ because they’re human, any every other species is even more awful and would wipe humanity out given the chance

DragonTypeWyvern ,

That is what new players/readers are told, sure.

rambling_lunatic , (edited )

Tau wouldn’t and doesn’t exterminate. On the other hand they may or may not brainwash their populace.

emergencyfood ,

Tau?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Space Dawi

Most of the independent human systems doing just fine without the Imperium tyvm

Eldar

Some Necrons, maaaaybe. It’s hard to tell with them sometimes.

Hrud mostly seem to just want to be left alone.

A lot of aliens just chilling

Fun Fact: the Imperium doesn’t actually span most of the galaxy. Nor do they really “control” the area around their systems.

Because of how FTL works in 40k, some areas just aren’t accessible to them. There’s a full on insectoid empire called the Q’orl near Terra that they didn’t have access to or know about until the Warp currents shifted.

And apparently their technology is even enough to be a potential threat… And the Imperium learned this when they immediately tried to kill them, obviously

Rakonat ,

Ah yes you can join our ‘Greater Good’ if you volunteer to be our slaves and castrate yourself. Also if you change your mind and try to leave we’ll kill you.

emergencyfood ,

But less bad than the imperium, no?

alcoholicorn ,

Yes, that is the justification most Americans use; western chauvinism tells them that no matter how bad they are, the other places are worse. How many times on Lemmy do you see people say “America bad, but China or Russia or Iran would be worse (therefore we’re justified in facilitating massive bloodshed)?”

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve seen the former part of that sentiment on here, but I haven’t seen anyone use it as justification to go to war

alcoholicorn ,

It’s used to justify bombing Yemen, support the genocide in Palestine, escalating the proxy war against Russia, and starting one against China.

You can get a social democrat to acknowledge that every conflict America has supported since WWII has made make the world worse, and they’ll still insist that this time, it’s different.

And half of lemmy are worse than that.

Bytemeister ,

…escalating the proxy war against Russia…

So, comrade, how much of Ukraine should surrender for about 6 years of “peace” with Russia?

alcoholicorn ,

The portions of Ukraine that Western Ukraine was shelling before the invasion.

The lines have hardly moved in a year, despite thousands more dead and millions more displaced. Every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians. To send more bombs is to sacrifice more people, for the same geopolitical outcome.

OurToothbrush ,

I for one wouldn’t have used unrest as a chance to do a coup. But if I did, I wouldn’t have planned who to install in what positions over an unsecure line.

And so, Ukraine would have stayed a democracy that is more economically aligned with Russia, and Russia wouldn’t have invaded.

I for one, wouldn’t have spent 40 years trying to overthrow a proletarian democracy, eventually succeeding in sponsoring a coup.

So Ukraine and Russia wouldn’t be right wing nationalist nations and would instead be part of a progressive federation.

TokenBoomer ,

The path where America is not in control and making the decisions for the rest of the world doesn’t even enter the liberalist mind. The inability to imagine an alternative world order is heavily ingrained and maintained by fear of “the other.”

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

More like “we are the baddies, but the incredibly wealthy own the country and they want war, and none of us have to balls to start lopping off heads”

Arcturus , (edited )

incredibly wealthy own the country

I wish people just said “the capitalist class”…

Makes it more obvious what the problem is and What Is To Be Done (working class revolution and overthrow).

irish_link ,

No, not okay. The monkey puppet reaction.

We are not shocked to learn we are the bad guys. I never said it’s okay, I just disagree with the reaction meme to indicate we didn’t know it.

Not sure where you pulled “it’s okay because America” from my statement but no need to jump to conclusions and put words in peoples mouth.

metaldream ,

He pulled it from nowhere because tankies are incapable of nuance, especially if you hold an even mildly dissenting opinion. You’re either with them or against them, there is no in-between. It’s ironic how much they share in common with actual fascists.

AnarchoBolshevik ,

Finland.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

You forgot the important part

“And they’re proud of it”

It’s crazy how military families are so into being in the military, out how proud they are of being Marines, etc. They’re literally doing the governments dirty work.

Harbinger01173430 ,

The question is: why would they be proud of being marines?

I mean, marines are the cannon fodder in every alien invasion movie, so, with that knowledge, that military branch is composed of useless moving targets.

conditional_soup ,

Propaganda. Lots and lots and lots of propaganda.

Harbinger01173430 ,

Propaganda about being the first line to get sacrificed in every alien invasion? Lol

conditional_soup ,

I don’t know if you’ve lived in rural America, but I have, and the fast track to quasi-celebrity status out there is to join the Marines or get KIAd. Americans have been heavily propagandized about making the great and noble sacrifice to “defend the country”.

Harbinger01173430 ,

I live in south americA

conditional_soup ,

Yeah, the US, particularly rural US, has been propagandized an absolutely ridiculous amount. Being seen to sacrifice or die for the empire is seen as a glorious thing both in and for your community.

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Self sacrifice for family/church/country is a big part of their hero’s journey narrative.

irish_link ,

Very true.

bennieandthez ,
@bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Bootlickers gonna bootlick

Bytemeister ,

I think we’re more like the Alliance from Firefly.

Most people are just trying to go about their day-to-day, and the war and major imperialism was done a long time ago. Now there are a few in the government who keep doing evil shit, but for the most part it’s a big useless bureaucracy.

OurToothbrush ,

the war and major imperialism was done a long time ago.

This is literally a myth that papers over their current warmongering and imperialism

metaldream ,

That people don’t know about because it isn’t covered in the media unless you actively look for that info. So it might as well have happened a long time ago

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Most people you know seem a lot more aware than the average American in my experience

tatterdemalion ,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

I thought the Empire in Star Wars was supposed to be Germany. They literally both have “stormtroopers.”

irish_link ,

Originally i would agree but i am referencing how things are today as that’s what the meme is referencing.

If you asked Americans today if they are the rebels or the empire the folks I know concede that we are the empire. We are the ones going into other peoples home towns with military occupation.

tatterdemalion ,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

Fair. I was mostly thinking about it from the perspective of what the writers had intended at the time.

some_guy , in I can see paradise by the cooler light

I once saw a cop car moving at the same speed as a shadow cast by a cloud. It looked like the cop was bringing darkness. The metaphor would hit me much harder now; this was in maybe 2000.

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