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quantenzitrone ,
@quantenzitrone@lemmings.world avatar

tbh i’m pretty happy installing everything through Lutris

it works great for gog games and pirated games

juliebean ,

i think you might be misunderstanding what ‘3rd party’ means. if ubisoft is making you use an ubisoft launcher to run ubisoft games, that’d be first party. here’s an article detailing what the terms mean with regards to game developers. a third party launcher would be like when you add a non-steam game to steam.

webghost0101 ,

Third party proprietary game launchers.

cron OP ,

Mandatory first party launchers?

laurelraven ,

I dunno, I tend to think of the useless thing that comes up for a game I bought on Steam and run through Steam to be “third party”… Maybe that’s a stretch, but whatever, it’s just unwanted and unnecessary at that point

HowManyNimons ,

Really? Ubisoft though? If there’s any game studio I could do without, it would be Ubi. Because of their practices I haven’t bought a game from them in years and years, and honestly it’s not even been a challenge to pass them up.

cron OP ,

I must confess that I love the Assassins Creed series

nichtburningturtle ,
@nichtburningturtle@feddit.org avatar

But only up till 4.

SpaceNoodle ,

And including four, right? And Odyssey?

nichtburningturtle ,
@nichtburningturtle@feddit.org avatar

Four yes. Fuck Odyssey.

the16bitgamer ,
@the16bitgamer@programming.dev avatar

Odyssey on Easy/Very Easy, good (the story was fun)

Odyssey on Normal is a grind-a-thon which made me want to never play another Ubisoft game again. Thus far nothing has come out to prove me wrong.

SolarMonkey ,

I actually have a number of games that are Ubisoft that I love. They aren’t super new or anything, but they aren’t flops by my metrics (granted, I bought them used long after launch)

I didn’t know they were when I got them, then the ubiconnect thing comes up and I just don’t do that, and it’s just a game that takes longer to load than it should.

Idk about any super bad practices, maybe PC is different from console stuff? (which is how I play, hence used game market, because I can sell it later if needs must) or is this something that spans console as well? What sort of bad practices?

299792458ms ,

linux gaming without 3rd party launchers.

HouseWolf ,

Funnily the first time I tried Linux on my desktop was because I wanted to play BF4 but the EA App refused to launch on Windows 10 even after restarting/reinstalling everything.

I slapped Pop_OS on a backup SSD and got it running through Lutris within the hour.

Origin was a fucking nightmare to use even on Windows, and honestly…the EA desktop app wasn’t really an improvement.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Origin was better in literally every way, but it’s predecessor, the EA Download Manager, was even better, as it wasn’t an always-online DRM piece of shit. You logged in, it listed your games, it downloaded them, and games still used a CD key.

Though I’m still pissy, as I bought NFS Carbon and obtained it via EADM, but when they moved to Origin, existing games didn’t transfer, and there was no way to grab games for archival. So EA owes me a fucking copy of Carbon, since I didn’t have it installed when they sunset EADM.

Fuck you, EA. In every conceivable sense of the word and action.

gofsckyourself ,

Just slap the “Linux” onto any post and immediately get more upvotes on Lemmy.

germanatlas ,
@germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Lemme try this

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/5d354515-c149-4c39-9d0d-e6e0e4ab968b.webp

KillingTimeItself ,

i’d be cool with launchers being made illegal. They do nothing anyway.

zipzoopaboop ,

Why do you want to play Ubisoft games?

wander1236 ,
@wander1236@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sometimes they’re fun, sometimes friends play them and you want to join?

RustyNova ,

It always reminds me that genshin is playable on Linux with proton (at least in 4.2, and I didn’t even tested wine). It’s just the launcher that doesn’t work. They are just so close yet so far

AkatsukiLevi ,
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

It is fully playable? I play on Linux with HoyoPlay and I have absolutely no issues?

RustyNova ,

I haven’t booted it up since 4.2 but I do know I didn’t had any issues. You just need to start from the game exe instead of the launcher

exu ,

There’s “an anime game” project to workaround the launcher and anti-cheat. Was fully playable when I used it a few months ago, but I did have to change to Proton GE or something else to fix some graphical glitches.

Also, no guarantee your account won’t get banned.

AkatsukiLevi ,
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

AAGL, it works great, but ‘going around the anti-cheat’ is no longer true, since the mHyProtect is working just fine on Linux

exu ,

Huh, since when? I did check the project wiki and it still says there’s a workaround for anti-cheat, but whatever. Nice that it’s working better on Linux since I last checked.

AkatsukiLevi ,
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

Since 4.6 or something like that, don’t remember exact But the anti-cheat with even HoyoPlay is working fine on Linux, even ZZZ worked out of the box right on release

SaharaMaleikuhm ,

Arr yarr ahoy and avast!

secret300 ,

honestly just PC gaming in general without 3rd party launchers

the_beber ,

Sometimes they make sense for managing mod-sets/different instances (i.e. Stellaris or most famously Minecraft.

secret300 ,

well yeah obviously, 3rd party launchers that are optional to use because they serve a purpose. Forced launchers like uplay and origin are the issue. they serve no purpose and offer a worse experience for the user and are forced on your system. Back in my day when a piece of software came with something else that pops up on your screen and runs in the background bogging down your system and collecting data, we considered that a virus.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Forced launchers like uplay and origin are the issue

These are usually first-party though (made by the same company that makes the game), not third-party.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

The Linux part usually is not a problem.

cron OP ,

I haven’t been playing on windows for years now, please forgive my lack of knowledge ;)

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Wasnt talking about Windows. Just saying most launchers work fine on Linux (at least, as well as they do on Windows).

The problem is not the OS, its the existence of unnecessary launchers in the first place, as well the poor general functionality.

Its just another place for them to serve you ads and inject DRM.

Would be cool if they all got together and funded indepedent non-profit development of a cross-platform launcher with store/friends/servers, etc.

Until then I’ll stick with Steam + HGL and nothing else.

Quacksalber ,

How to play Ubisoft games without the Ubisoft Launcher:
Step 1) If you’re an EU citizen, sign this petition: eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
If you are not in the EU, you can check if there are any other initiatives for your country here: www.stopkillinggames.com
Step 2) (Due to insurmountable pressure, which you definitely did your part in adding to, video games are now forced to have an end-of-life plan.
Step 3) Wait until the game you want to play without the Ubi Launcher hits its end-of-life
Step 4) Do whatever is necessary to get the game playable again, which the newly introduced law guarantees is possible
Step 5) Enjoy your game without the Ubi launcher

Voytrekk ,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

The majority of the issues I have with WoW on Linux are because of the battle.net launcher. If they added the game to Steam, I’m sure I wouldn’t have any issues.

jay ,
@jay@mbin.zerojay.com avatar

Ubisoft Connect is supposed to update itself when first launched. Which games specifically are you referring to with broken versions?

0x4E4F ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well, not exactly to be honest. You’ll still have a lot more problems than gaming on Windows due to fragmentation.

But, if your distribution system is purely flatpak, then yes, it should be smooth.

cron OP ,

You’re right. It’s just frustrating that most games could run better (or at all) if publishers paid just a little bit of attention.

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