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wick , (edited )

I’ve just spent the last 6 hours troubleshooting steam input on 3rd party flatpaks, also alacarte has a bug that doesn’t let you save property changes, also I can’t use vim as root anymore for some reason I don’t care to look into, also symlinking some of my media was a pain. Band-aid solutions have been found for the first 3 and the last was me being an idiot and not having a GUI solution to symlinks because Nautilus is arse compared to ms file explorer.

I fucking hate pop-os and flatpaks, cosmic launcher is a pile of junk, and my 4k monitor has created an infinite amount of scaling issues to work through.

Windows was a slow burn of minor inconvenience, Linux is a series of kicks in the nuts.

Atlas48 ,
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This is exactly why I’m not using windows on this box. Too much hassle.

Cosmonaut_Collin ,
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I suppose you could just use arch Linux to get away from pop-os and flatpaks.

Johnmannesca ,
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Yeah, but installing the android sdk though

JeffKerman1999 ,

I mean playing games on manjaro is ok, the problem is modding fallout 3/nv

MerchantsOfMisery , (edited )

My experience with Win10 for what I use my computer for has been far less janky than any Linux distro I’ve tried, and I’m past the stage of my life where I could spend hours and hours troubleshooting and enjoying it.

As for Win11… I may very well made the dreaded switch to Linux when Win10 officially loses updates. I just wish Linux had viable alternatives to a lot of Windows software that wouldn’t result in my workflow being significantly altered in a way that will require watching countless god awful tutorial videos and going through forum nonsense.

Like for sure Windows has its problems but we shouldn’t pretend Linux and the community don’t do a lot of things that massively turn off new users.

Want regular ass people to switch from Windows to something new? Check out how/why Mac OS is so popular among those who’ve switched from Windows, and perhaps there’s some things of value there that the Linux community can learn from.

The Linux community is packed with toxicity and a stubborn insistence that it’s nothing but helpful and if a user has a problem, it’s always their fault and never the distro’s fault.

Laptop shows your unlocked screen briefly when you open it before unlocking? Never had that issue with Windows, Macs, but on Linux this happens with Ubuntu when installed on several Thinkpad models.

And nearly every response to this problem on Linux forums is "you must be doing something wrong" or casually telling a new user 'just switch to DingOS 3.14 bro, it’s what I use and I’ve never had an issue" like that’s NOT a major pain in the ass for the average user.

Zink ,

This needs an extra top panel with the dude just chilling with no makeup, maybe reading a “clown makeup for dummies” book. The caption is “my last Windows machines are barely working but they know what happens if I have to ‘fix’ anything.”

That’s where I’m living right now. The PC I use all day is already Linux.

uebquauntbez ,

Isn’t it like a famous american philosopher once sang:

Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose …

Lanky_Pomegranate530 ,

I dual booted Linux Mint with Windows 10 on my gaming laptop so that I wouldn’t have to upgrade to Windows 11 or buy a new computer.

possiblylinux127 ,

Some people these days are actually looking to give up Adobe. You know it has to be bad for them to want to make massive changes to there workflow. I think it has to do with Adobe using your data for AI.

SilentObserver ,

Windows 11 may be the first major version of Windows that I never use on my own personal rig. I’ve used 98, XP, 7, 8/8.1, and 10 throughout my life. But I’ve got no reason to touch 11 when Arch (or fill in with your distro of choice) with KDE exists. It’s just a much better experience.

Shoot, even my daughters share a computer with endeavorOS+KDE installed and they have no problems using it. Windows 11 would refuse to even install on that same machine.

Taleya ,

Ugh, my field (tech) means i have to have more than a passing familiarity with it

SilentObserver ,

It’s definitely different if you’re getting paid for it. I plan to get into I.T. within the next year or two if I can, so I’m sure I’ll have to get familiar with Windows 11.

I mean, technically I do use Windows 11 daily at work. Gotta be able to order stuff, send emails, and manage my time card. All that is done on a Windows 11 PC. But nobody is paying me to put it on my home PC, so I’m not going to.

FangedWyvern42 ,
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VR is literally the only reason my next PC will still have Windows.

Resol ,
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I only continue to use Windows 11 because dual booting Linux breaks my Windows installation for whatever reason. I’ve been told that putting each OS on its own separate SSD works fine, but it’s hard to do when you’re using a laptop that you’re not sure whether or not it has an extra NVMe slot or even a SATA slot.

Virtual machines are my only fix.

Crikeste ,

What the fuck is all this anti-Windows 11 talk? I have never had a problem with it. Is it because of functionality or something else? Because, functionality wise, it’s been fine for me. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Oh shit I didn’t realize this was in Linux. Welp o7 I go down with my ship lmao

Lazycog ,
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Brave of you to walk into the lion’s linux den with that

Crikeste ,

I was genuinely like, “oh no no no no” when I noticed. But oh well, it’s kinda funny to me.

Lazycog ,
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Yeah I got a laugh from the edit as well, this is a meme community after all.

possiblylinux127 ,

Well I find it perfectly fine to use in a VM

paddirn ,

I used Win10 mostly without issue and when I transitioned to Win11 that went without issue as well and it’s been pretty much smooth sailing the whole time. The few annoyances I had with it, I was able to find something that fixed the issue, it just works. The only thing I really didn’t like was that the only reason I transitioned to Win11 as early as I did was because of an update they sent out that made it sound at the time like I had to switch over, something about the wording made it seem like I had no choice, I remember it being a bit confusingly worded. I had wanted to hold out as long as possible on Win10, but because of that went ahead with the switch. It’s been fine since then, but I would’ve preferred not having to switch because of that.

Dicska ,

I’m just guessing, I’m still using Windows (though I would have made the swap literally decades ago if the games I like in particular ran on Linux just as fine): it’s not about functionality; Windows was designed to be a great tool to do your business.

It’s everything else that you pay in return, the price being the least of the problems. Forced ads, forced software, insane amount of “telemetry” (half of which is just data collection for their own gains), to name a few. Year by year it’s getting harder, more complicated and more tedious (and less and less doable) to remove all the forced ads, reverse all the forced program defaults and automatic bloat. If you have to look it up on the Internet how you need to edit the registry to be able to stop certain processes/services that annoy you, then it means they don’t want you to stop the annoyance. A few patches later you can’t even do it. Dishonest stuff like that.

If you’re fine with everything that Win11 means, including stuff that drives others up the wall, then Win11 is for you and there’s nothing wrong with that.

As much as others here love to shit on certain games (like League of Legends or Valorant), I still find them fun to play and I wouldn’t want to say goodbye to them just because otherwise I’d prefer Linux. There’s a reason they aren’t supported on various OS’s at the same time (developing anti cheat on multiple systems is just super labour intensive, and opens up way too many loopholes/exploits/bugs for cheat developers), and it pretty much applies to ANY multiplayer game. If I only played single player games I would switch in an instant.

morbidcactus , (edited )

I really dislike the locking of the taskbar to the bottom, having to click twice to see all my right click options, having to dig through multiple layers of menus to find a setting, not a fan of copilot being pushed in the OS (though I did totally use cortana back in the day, had some somewhat nice assistant features like traffic monitoring to recommend when I left for work), generally not a fan of for lack of better term “streamlining”, it’s mostly minor annoyances and the like but they add up.

I do really like Auto HDR, winget being there ootb (I think? Was amazing when I migrated work computers), windows terminal is straight up fantastic. It’s still definitely useable, it’s just only on my work machines (no choice, but I live in the terminal, text editors and browser for almost everything so OS doesn’t really matter much to me) and my desktop, run linux on everything else.

iLL_Behaviour ,

Been on Mac for years now. I love hot corners.

possiblylinux127 ,

Gnome is better in my experience

shalva97 ,

I like that it works

Samsy ,

I had to work with a win 11 system today. I needed to fast move through a lot of pictures with the m$ image viewer, every time I delete a picture it does a fucking slow animation which just steals my time.

Okay, I went to the win-settings and removed animations. Photo-app still does animations…

FU M$.

possiblylinux127 ,

Time to write a powershell script…

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