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Uli ,

Just built my first fully dedicated Linux machine. Still keeping my old Windows desktop around purely because I play League of Legends and they use a kernel level anticheat, so it won’t run on VM.

Fun fact, ever since Riot made it mandatory to install their rootkit if you want to play their games, every time I try to eject a flash drive, it says it can’t eject because it’s in use - even if I just plugged it in. And that’s super comforting.

DerisionConsulting ,

It’s not like Riot Games is fully owned by Tencent or anything…

But if you still want to play the game, having a computer that you only use for league, with nothing else installed, is the best way to go about it

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

The best sandbox is made of bare metal.

possiblylinux127 ,

Windows 10 and Windows 11 are basically the same

Prove me wrong

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

I need to click twice to get to the 7zip options.

Infinitus ,

Have you ever tried installing 50 pc’s with windows 11 vs win10? A night and day difference. To clarify, win 10 is outrageously faster then win 11 where ms wants to have the system updated before you finish the initial setup. Whoever thought that this was a good idea should be fired.

Gumus ,

There are only a few mouse models that fulfill my requirements and software support for them is bad even on windows. I’m currently on Razer and Roccat, the software is slow, heavy and convoluted, but it’s the only way to use the devices to their full potential. There’s no way to get the drivers for Linux and that’s a deal breaker for me.

jol ,

Is this for real or a joke? I can’t tell anymore.

DerisionConsulting ,

There are some mice and keyboards with proprietary software that only works in windows.

But unless you have a special input device because of a disability, not using an os because of a mouse/keyboard feels like a joke

jol ,

Like driving a shitty car because you really like a certain brand of seat covers.

ComicalMayhem ,

write a new driver for it

vinyl ,

I generally only use Linux for programming just because how convenient and straightforward it is, but beyond that I have no incentive to move.

I like KDE but the ui is jank af right now, after logging in, it takes a solid 1-2 min for the taskbar to actually popup, and opening file manager including any file dialogs takes about 5-10 secs which is pretty insane since I’m running on a pretty powerful PC with a Samsung 990 pro M.2.

For context I am using Endeavour distro with nothing else modified.

Aurenkin ,

I dream of a world where I don’t have to dual boot.

EherNicht ,

Due to planned virtualisation in Windows this will probably soon be the case for people who Dual boot due to anticheat.

Aurenkin ,

That would be awesome! There’s still the odd game I can’t run unrelated to anti cheat but that would still be a huge win.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Due to planned virtualisation in Windows

I must have missed something. What are you referencing with this comment?

EherNicht ,

They want to prevent spooky programs running in the kernel (like crowdstrike) which may break the whole system. Source: theverge.com/…/microsoft-windows-changes-crowdstr…

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

please.

EherNicht ,

It seems quite likely actually. The only problem might be them noticing the benefit for GNU/Linux.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Perhaps I’m being dense but how do you see this helping Linux Gaming?

Even assuming that VBS-E allows Game Devs to shift their current kernel based anti-cheat over to it there’s no guarantee that Linux will get a compatible VBS-E module nor that Game Devs would allow its use.

I guess I see it as: If a Game Dev does this (use VBS-E) AND Linux gets a compatible module AND Game Devs allow its use THEN newer games may not have the same problem with anti-cheat as older ones.

EherNicht ,

The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access. So the anticheat has to eun in userspace. This can also be done under GNU/Linux which is why anticheat should work on both platforms.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access.

Yes, if we assume that various institutions (cough cough looking at you EU) allow MS to remove kernel access.

So the anticheat has to eun in userspace.

VSB-E isn’t really “user space” but your point about the kernel is valid.

hich is why anticheat should

The word “should” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. Even if it COULD that doesn’t mean devs will allow it nor does it mean that existing games will get updated on EITHER platform. Removing a kernel level anti-cheat could easily be the death of some older games on Windows as the owner simply doesn’t want to put the money into making it work.

I’m honestly not too sure how possible it is to make VSB-E work on *nix either, since it appears to use Microsoft Hyper-V technologies at its core and those wouldn’t be available in *nix. That means that we’d be back to Game Devs having to specifically write anti-cheat for *nix…which is something they can already do if they want.

VSB-E is interesting but I’m not convinced its going to do anything for Linux Gaming at all. Hopefully I am wrong. :)

communism ,
@communism@lemmy.ml avatar

Out of curiosity what do you dual boot for? I used to dual boot for gaming but I’ve lately found that proton works very well with my games and there is no need to run Windows for anything

Aurenkin ,

Yeah proton works really well for me for the vast majority of my games but there are a few that don’t. I dual boot solely to play those.

  • Star Citizen - much worse performance for me using Linux.
  • Cyberpunk - Used to work fine but started crashing on Linux for me
  • Counter Strike 2 - Audio cuts out after about 15 - 20 minutes on Linux.
  • Supreme Commander - Frequent crashes on Linux.

I think people can run most of those fine but I haven’t had luck and don’t spend much time tinkering.

skulblaka , (edited )
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Cyberpunk works great on Proton 7. I was playing it last night. It crashes on updated/experimental Proton but by forcing compatibility to Proton 7.0-6 I played for about 4 hours with no issues.

index ,

There are plenty of games that runs on linux just fine

libregaming.org/play-libre-games/

The games you mentioned don’t seem to have anything so special that they are worth trading for your privacy and freedom over.

veng ,

CS2: Try using -sdlaudiodriver pipewire in launch options

onlinepersona ,

We just have to wait until Windows 12, the cloud OS, and dual boot will be no more. All that’ll be necessary is a browser and a fast internet connection. CoD and Valorant players though… dunno what to do about them. Pro gaming won’t be possible without running windows locally to get the highest framerate.

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palordrolap ,

The only way to prevent dual booting would require a UEFI/BIOS that pulls the OS straight over a network, bypassing local storage entirely.

Even if that didn't already rule it out, the size that OSes are these days makes it even less likely. At least not unless Microsoft (or whoever) are planning to ditch absolutely everyone who doesn't have gigabit internet. (It would be kind of funny for an OS to go back to being 1990s-sized to mitigate that though. And funnier still when someone inevitably captures it onto a hard disk anyway.)

A more likely vector would be to deliberately break third party bootloaders every time Windows boots. And that would last until the next anti-trust / monopoly lawsuit and they'd roll it back to the current behaviour of only breaking third party bootloaders on installation.

And even if somehow that didn't get rolled back, just wait until hardware vendors introduce this thing called a "switch" that can be added just before the power connector on an SSD. Can't boot from a drive that has no power. BIOS defaults to the next SATA channel. And now you're booting into Linux.

Doing the same for a mobo-mounted NVMe drive is harder but not impossible.

onlinepersona ,

Hmmmm, I think you interpreted my comment as microsoft trying to make dual booting impossible? I meant it wouldn’t be necessary anymore, because one would just require linux with a browser to access windows if need be.

The simplest way I can imagine to forcefully disable dualbooting is do what Malus does: control the hardware and only allow one signed OS on there. Don’t trust anything else.

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Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Fusion360 is only software I use that I cannot get running on Linux. So my wife’s last macbook now lives to play Tidal in our garage and run NoMachine so I can remote into it for Fusion.

Gumus ,

I switched from Fusion to Onshape and it’s been a treat. The option to use it on an Android tablet is a great bonus.

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Public only storage is a dealbreaker for me.

thisbenzingring ,

For a couple of my friends, it Destiny 2. What a lame game to cling to

Gerudo ,

Yeah, how dare they have fun playing a game they want.

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

It has the best FPS raids mechanics imo

thisbenzingring ,

LoL people on a Linux subreddit supporting a game that doesn’t work on Linux only because the developers don’t want it to. And actively bad Linux users, pretending it’s for keeping cheaters off but that’s laughable.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Windows is so unstable

TurtleTourParty ,

I switched to Linux on a laptop of mine because an update to windows caused it to not boot.

Now I get to deal with my keyboard backlight not working, sometimes the keyboard freezing on resume, my Bluetooth not connecting on the first try, and my wifi sometimes not working, but it boots fine every time.

TheRedSpade ,

Now I get to deal with my keyboard backlight not working

Could I get that problem please? Pretty much any keyboard anymore comes with a backlight which I can’t even imagine being useful to anyone who can type. If they provide a way to turn it off, it’s via Windows-only software.

stochasticity ,

I type in the dark sometimes. But it’s not on by default either.

BlemboTheThird ,

Have you tried different distros? Some hardware is supported better by different forks. I myself have an odd situation with an old laptop that got weird Bluetooth audio issues on stock Ubuntu, but having swapped it over to mint (which is supposedly just Ubuntu under the hood!) it works flawlessly.

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

Tarkov and Destiny 2 mainly.

Also I have a laptop I use from time to time running mint, few games installed. The games itself work okayish but the amount of times I need to “fix” some bullshit is annoying. Last things I remember were the touchpad being wonky and games having extreme tearing on HDMI, no matter if vsync was on or off.

I might try pop os some time but honestly my windows machine runs mostly without fault for years now (just cannot use any gpu drivers after march 24, but that’s on nvidia) and at the end of the day I just want to consoome without fiddling in settings every time.

Lumisal ,

Tryp BazziteOS next instead of Pop. It’s a Linux OS that’s designed for gaming and comes with all drivers, emulators, proton, etc out of the box. Also based on Fedora, which in my experience does better in the gaming department.

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

Thanks, I’ll save this comment and try it out when I switch

Unreliable ,

Yeah I can back this. I switched to Bazzite about 6+ months ago after messing with Linux on the Steamdeck and I haven’t looked back.

Kushan ,
@Kushan@lemmy.world avatar

Because the time to learn a new operating system is more than I have to spare. I’m approaching middle aged, windows is familiar and I just want to kick back and enjoy my games.

Linux hasn’t reached drop-in replacement on the desktop yet. The steam deck is fantastic and I have no problems running it stock, but desktop Linux? Nah. Why would I dual boot when I can stick to one OS that does what I want and need.

(Side note: I run Linux on my server and am quite happy with it).

BmeBenji ,

oooooooohohohohohoho you really got me with that last one.

Though at least I’m only addicted to R6: Siege and not CoD or Valorant like a fucking pleb

Edit: a MASSIVE /s I do unironically love Siege and it is actually what’s keeping Windows installed on my PC, but I admit it’s in no way a good reason to keep malware on my machine

Presi300 ,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

I knew it was a /s the moment you mentioned you like valorant… Nobody hates themselves that much

hipsterdoofus ,

AutoHDR/SpecialK, AFMF, proper scaling on multiple monitors with mixed resolutions, Freesync

In time I’ll switch, but for me the extra gaming features on W11 are just nice.

Presi300 ,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

But all of these things, except AutoHDR (coming soon tm) already exist on linux though… Scaling and Freesync, especially haven’t been an issue on linux for a while if you use the right desktop (KDE Plasma or GNOME on wayland)

Presi300 ,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

ngl, if you’re mentally ill enough to like valorant, you should stay on windows /s

arin ,

Auto HDR… I have one HDR monitor and one SDR monitor and w11 plays nicely, Nvidia app still won’t work with more than one monitor for their version of auto HDR

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