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Voytrekk OP , in ChimeraOS 43 out now adding ASUS ROG Ally support
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Exciting that the team at ChimeraOS was able to get some initial support for the ROG Ally so quickly.

woelkchen ,
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Exciting that the team at ChimeraOS was able to get some initial support for the ROG Ally so quickly.

AMD employs developers to directly contribute to Linux, so basic support for the SoC was just a matter of time anyway. However, Asus does funky stuff, so the experience seems to be not excellent right now: “Issue: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Audio, or extra keys stop working. This can happen after the system goes into suspend, after booting to Linux after being in the BIOS, or may occur randomly after a few successful boots.” github.com/…/Device-Specific-Configurations#asus-…

superterran , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD
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I’m thinking about building a steam box and this is how I feel too

sky , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

I had a 5700xt prior to my current 3060 and I’m very tempted to switch back so I can get rid of nvidia’s drivers, getting Wayland functional has been a disaster for me.

I just switched them like a couple weeks ago to give macOS another go, so I’m just being lazy 😅

hyper , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD
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I’m so mad at myself for impulse buying the rtx 3080… can’t wait to switch to team red completely in a couple of years. Or do you think someone is willing to swap their AMD for my nVidia card? 😂

AkatsukiLevi , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD
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I literally can’t wait to replace the GT 710 my computer currently has with something that has proper support from AMD

AnUnusualRelic , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD
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I don’t know how you all manage to have so much trouble. The only issue of note I’ve had with nVidia is the machine not hibernating by itself. Apart from that, it’s always worked without much fuss for the last fifteen years (not sure what I used before that).

miggs597 OP ,

Yeah, I agree. I just happened to hit an edge case, and hit it hard.

Eldritch ,

My Nvidia card is rock solid under Wayland. As long as I’m not running something needing 3d acceleration. Using it with 3d acceleration I have to be very careful. If the viewport moves too fast etc. Nvidia just shits the bed. Then I have to drop to terminal and reset my desktop session quickly before it hard locks the system. It’s very annoying and reproducible. So much so that I’m replacing a 1650 with a 6400 with less vram.

ticho ,
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Same here. I keep shaking my head in disbelief when I read all this “you need this custom niche distro if you want nvidia without problems” posts, and then look at my totally uncustomized Debian Stable PC, on which I’ve been playing modern games for many years now. :)

Really, the only trouble I’ve had was not Nvidia related at all - in the very beginning when Steam Linux client was released, Debian had too old glibc, and I had to resort to LD_LIBRARY_PATH/LD_PRELOAD tricks with glibc snatched from an Ubuntu package. But next Debian release fixed even that, and it’s been smooth sailing ever since.

stargazer4416 , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

I just bought a Samsung G9 Neo (5120x1440), and Ubuntu just worked resolution-wise. Had to switch the monitor to 120hz instead of 240 because otherwise Ubuntu would only allow 60. For the rest all is well. GTX1660Ti. I’m actively looking to upgrade that card now though, with an RTX4060Ti being the prime candidate. I wondered whether i should choose AMD instead, but the doubt was too much. 😅

jep , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

Does AMD have something that rivals DLSS? Some games are sadly very dependant on it nowadays.

babeuh ,

There’s FSR2 which is similar to DLSS without frame gen They’re also developing FSR3 which will apparently give “up to a 2x increase” of frames by also using frame gen.

A pro of FSR is that it’s open source so it’s easier for developers to put it in their games themselves.

jep ,

Thanks!

scutiger ,

And FSR also works on non-AMD hardware, which is pretty neat.

xan1242 , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

Same here, experience got worse after upgrading the monitor.

I went from a somewhat matched pair of 1080p 75Hz monitors, one of which was ultrawide (2560 width) to upgrading my ultrawide to a 3440x1440 160hz panel.

That upgraded panel suffered every step of the way in Linux.

I absolutely cannot get 160Hz consistently if I have both monitors running. On KDE X11, compositor drops the rate to 75FPS to even things out (except the mouse lol). On KDE Wayland it works properly in this regard, but we all know how Wayland is on NVIDIA right now.

GNOME is a similar story as KDE Wayland, with an added bonus of stuttering.

I’m not losing hope, though. It’s gonna catch up to AMD but man does it stink to use lol

The only other reason I really have to use X11 is because the hardware video decoding in the browser doesn’t work in Wayland with NVIDIA. Most of the apps are actually becoming more and more stable.

blubb , in issues installing nobara project
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Had the same problem after upgrading from 37 to 38. Its an nvidia problem

1 - Boot an older kernel OR Drop to a TTY (Ctrl + Alt + F3) OR Boot into runlevel 3 (on grub, press ‘e’ when the list of kernels show, look for the line with quite splash nvidia-drm.modeset=1 and add the number 3 there, then Ctrl + X to boot) 2 - Login on your terminal and dkms status. If you see something like /var/dkms/nvidia/525.116.03/source/dkms.conf does not exist, remove the entire directory of the failed version rm -rf /var/dkms/nvidia/525.116.03 3 - sudo dkms autoinstall 4 - reboot if no errors and profit, otherwise rinse and repeat step 2-3

PS: If dkms tells you nothing at all (after the upgrade): remove the drivers /etc/nobara/scripts/cosmo-nvidia-wizard/remove.sh

reinstall them /etc/nobara/scripts/cosmo-nvidia-wizard/install.sh

If your dkms status is ok, you probably have a mismatch in your initramfs and root. just sudo dracut -f --regenerate-all and reboot

Thats what i have done now it works fine.

cold OP ,

it was an nvidia driver problem, i have resolved the issue by editing the boot in grub by pressing e and setting ‘nomodeset quiet’ and reinstalling the propriety drivers upon boot

mojo , (edited ) in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

I’m using a GTX 1080 still and looking to upgrade to an AMD card. What’s a solid card I can get under $600?

edit: thanks dudes, picked up a 6700xt for $350

WellThisIsNew ,
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6700xt is very solid. I game at 1440p and as long as I don’t turn ray tracing on, it runs all of my games above 60fps at max settings. Admittedly I don’t play many AAA games. The most demanding game I’ve tried on it is probably Cyberpunk 2077.

mojo ,

Think I’ll pull the trigger and get that, only $350 so it’s decent. Now that I think about it, 2077 was also the last demanding game I played lol. My 1080 chugged on that. Also Gears of War it struggled. Doesn’t bother me too much anymore, idc about triple A games now. Mostly getting for better Linux support.

JineteDeAbuelas47 ,

I own a 6700xt and also play in 2k - there’s a great price quality relationship with this card and it performs great. This card will absolutely do the job and way more than enough - Unless you want to experience ray-tracing or VR but also linux sadly is not the best platform for those features

addie ,
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Raytracing is meant to be enabled on AMD cards in the Mesa 23.2 update, fwiw. But yeah, AMD aren’t really leading the way on that, so it’ll be mostly novelty value I fear.

miggs597 OP ,

If you’re willing to buy used there are mega cards going for under 600 on most marketplaces. Surplus, and little interest from consumers have brought back cheap second hand hardware. It’s really a buyers market right now.*

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mojo ,

eh I never trust used computer parts, especially graphics cards. I always assume crypto mining.

tabular ,
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There are people out there selling broken cards but if the mining card works then is there really any evidence that it’s less performant or any more likely to fail than a lightly used gaming card?

I’ve almost always bought new but I’d prefer to buy used now to save money and hopefully find out if it has any coil wine. That’s if used prices were any different than new (Ebay’s UK used prices are dumb).

scutiger ,

Best bang for the buck is probably the 6700XT. It will run all the the biggest games at 1440p with decent fps. If you’re at 1080p, there’s nothing it can’t handle. If you’re looking at 4K gaming, you’re going to want a bit more juice if you want good framerates.

csolisr , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

And to think that if you want to use fully free software in your stack a la FSF, the answer is more like “my friendship ended with external GPUs, now the iGPU of a Librebooted Intel from ten years ago is my only friend left”

F04118F , (edited ) in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

Great post, thanks for sharing your experience with Nvidia in all those distros!

Just wanted to add: if you are stuck with Nvidia but want to get started gaming in Linux, install Pop!_OS . They have carefully tweaked Ubuntu to make even Nvidia “just work”. It works for me so far, on 2560x1440 @75Hz.

I would rather have some distro freedom with an AMD GPU but unfortunately my main (Windows) game (DCS World) does not work well in VR specifically with the RX7000 series drivers yet.

Owljfien ,

Good to know, I’ve just ordered a steam deck and if I find that I’m able to play everything I want on there, I might even move my main pc across.

The only real game with anticheat I play is csgo and with Cs2 imminent, I can’t imagine valve would lock Linux out on that.

I made the mistake of not getting rx7000 series so I guess I reap what I sow.

bobbyllama ,
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i do own a steam deck and can say with certainty that, after seeing how well it's handled every game i've thrown at it, i will be switching my primary pc to linux once support for win10 ends

yesdogishere ,

I think any gaming on games or boxes post 2019 is just silly. It is a horror minefield of broken and buggy programming and drivers. The best bet is to stick with all hardware and software pre 2018 , preferably running Linux. Windows sucks so stick with pre win10 if u can. Windows is doomed. Hang on to all your all hardware and stick with old games, everything past 2018 is about to slide into a massive shitshow of broken bugs.

JasSmith ,

Did they fix the issue where installing Steam would nuke the desktop?

bionade24 ,

IIRC it was already fixed when Linus did this, just not distributed. It was caused by the bluntness Linus developed due to unmeaningful Windows warnings in the 1st place.

JasSmith ,

It's so crazy that such a bug ever made it to production. I guess that's the cost of FOSS: installing Steam can nuke your entire desktop.

mccord ,

It’s nothing exclusive to open source. Eve Online removing boot.ini and bricking Windows installs was hilarious.

JasSmith ,

I googled that. 2007 right? Looks like the Eve devs bungled that. In this case it was the Pop_OS devs who introduced the bug.

bionade24 ,

The bug was that you couldn't install steam without faking a the installation of a dep that went down the dependency chain ending in a conflict of essential packages. The functionality to still proceed is a feature. Linus could also just have copied rm -rf --no-preserve-root / from the internet as solution and would have trusted it blindly. If you want to be nannied all the way, I'd suggest you switch to iOS for everything.

JasSmith ,

Blaming the user for installing Steam is the most Linux response imaginable. The user above explained it was a bug.

bionade24 , (edited )

If Linus would be a non-techie, he would have tried to install it with a graphical AppStore, it wouldn't have worked and he'd either given up or found the flatpak version of Steam, which would have worked. Not restricting power users is a good aspect. If I play around with Windows registry to force the removal of edge, Linus would blame me, not Windows. You have to differentiate between things normal users tried and things Linus attempted because he has some technical knowledge.

Some random user saying anything doesn't make anything true, you don't believe flat-earthers on the internet, either.

bgtlover ,

@bionade24 @miggs597 @F04118F @JasSmith I'm a bit out of the loop here, but what was the bug actually? Did he do this on livestream?

JasSmith ,

There was a library incompatibility between the Steam image in the Pop_OS package manager and the OS. It was caused by a bug introduced by the Pop_OS developers. Linus tried to install Steam using the package manager and it failed. So he went on Google to find out how to install Steam on Pop_OS. A thousand blogs and forums told him to enter "sudo apt-get install Steam", which he did. Unfortunately doing so automatically uninstalls certain important desktop components in Pop_OS.

It wasn't on livestream, but you can see the process here: https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M?t=581

bgtlover ,

@JasSmith @miggs597 @F04118F @bionade24 lol, that's completely hilarious imo. Still though, that bug is definitely weird, I never got it my self on ubuntu or any of its derivatives. Is it only a pop OS issue then?

JasSmith ,

If I play around with Windows registry to force the removal of edge, Linus would blame me, not Windows.

He didn't "play around" with anything. He entered, "sudo apt-get install Steam". That comes straight from thousands of blogs and help sites which instruct users to do just that when they have issues installing Steam.

miggs597 OP ,

Thank you!

Talking about games, I’m so happy I don’t have any title that I play stuck on Windows. None EAC games always worked for me when I started using Linux full time, but I was only able to delete my Windows partition after Apex added support for EAC on Linux. Ever since I haven’t looked back :)

Owljfien , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

As someone who hasn’t tried to game on Linux but just use it as a server with my old pc hardware, dealing with nvidia shit is just a massive pain in the ass.

I was only using one monitor and yet it’d never pick up edid properly and other random quirks.

I chucked an Intel arc in there for av1 encoding on jellyfin and after getting to kernel 6.2 it also “just worked”.

It’s amazing how much of a difference it can make when the manufacturer gives even one quarter of a shit about Linux.

root , in issues installing nobara project

What is the size of the usb stick you’re flashing it onto? Maybe try it again with a bigger usb stick?

cold OP ,

it was actually the nvidia drivers that was in the install, had to modify the boot so i can download and install the proprietary drivers. everything is running perfectly smooth now :) i was using a 16gb USB

root ,

Good to know you solved your issue. I remember in Nobara 36 I flashed it onto a 4gb stick and it was pretty full. Wasn’t sure if the subsequent releases increased in size or not. :p

cold OP ,

good to know for future use in case i want to distro hop, doubtful tho since nobara is running smooth for me so far. enjoying my linux experience!

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