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TheGrandNagus , in Help...First time installing a Radeon on Linux (7800 XT)

For AMD you really should just stick to the drivers that will already be included out of the box, and generally you’ll get a better experience using newer kernels, especially for a relatively recent architecture like RDNA3.

iturnedintoanewt OP ,
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Yeah well…out of the box I had a non-booting linux, and in safe mode it failed to recognize the secondary display :)

TheGrandNagus ,

Oof. I had the same issue when I (back when it was new) used a 6800XT on a Mint install with an old kernel. Maybe it’s worth testing with a newer kernel or on a distro that pushes more frequent kernel/Mesa updates

iturnedintoanewt OP ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah thanks! I got it working in the end with the updated recent AMD firmware from the kernel release, updating to an 6.5-oem kernel, and rebuilding initramfs with the updated firmware files, as detailed here: askubuntu.com/…/how-to-make-ubuntu-22-04-work-wit…

dlove67 , in Help...First time installing a Radeon on Linux (7800 XT)

As others have said “Ya doin it wrong!”

AMD has the AMDGPU kernel driver already in place in the linux kernel, and excluding the newest generations of cards for about a month or two after they come out, that part should work fine. Additionally, you need Mesa installed for the userspace drivers. It is typically preinstalled and covers the OpenGL and Vulkan drivers for your card.

Pretty much the only time you want to run the driver from AMD’s site is if you’re using some particular professional applications, otherwise Mesa tends to outperform it. There are relatively few games that AMDVLK (the AMD official open source Vulkan driver) is ahead, and it’s got an edge in most (all?) raytracing cases currently.

Lastly, the reason it doesn’t work is because the driver install script is checking your os-release version to see if it matches the Ubuntu version it was packaged for. If you’re confident that you can fix any problems that arise from doing this, you could presumably just change the string in /etc/os-release to match what it’s looking for. I don’t recommend doing this, though, unless you don’t care if the drivers break things because they weren’t packaged for the release you’re using.

tal ,
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AMD has the AMDGPU kernel driver already in place in the linux kernel, and excluding the newest generations of cards for about a month or two after they come out, that part should work fine.

Reading his comment, it looks like KDE Neon ships with a two-year-old kernel, so I assume that that’s the issue.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_neon

20230706, based on Ubuntu 22.04 and Plasma 5.26.5, kernel Linux 5.15 / 6 July 2023

Linux 5.15 came out in October 2021, and his card was just released.

dlove67 ,

So…what can I do? Neon is mostly Ubuntu 22.04 to most effects. Kernel is 6.2.0-36-generic.

The kernel in use should support RDNA3, I believe.

Edit: judging from the comment made a bit ago, it wasn’t the kernel or mesa, they were just missing the firmware. And yeah, that’ll do it. I remember being frustrated with my 7900xtx not working on Pop! before I pulled in the firmware back on release.

iturnedintoanewt OP ,
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Thanks. I wasn’t aware of the difference privative vs public ones on AMD. On Nvidia (where I came from) it’s kinda the opposite, noveau kinda works, but if you really want to play with proper performance, you should head for the privative one. In the end it was just easier to download the AMD firmware from the latest linux release, and recompile with that. It worked after that.

dlove67 ,

If you were missing firmware, that’s not actually a driver issue. You do need the firmware and (unless you also installed the professional drivers as well) you should be all good now and using the full open source stack.

Anyway, glad to hear it’s working for you!

iturnedintoanewt OP ,
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Yeah…kinda. Now on multi-monitor setup I have a weird glitch…when one of the monitors are turned off. Screen will start flickering rearranging the windows. Weird.

dlove67 ,

Do you mean it constantly does it when a monitor is turned off or that when you initially turn off a monitor, it rearranges all windows to fit on the remaining monitor.

If the first, I’m not sure what the problem might be, but the second is pretty normal, I think. The card sees that the display was detached and moves your windows to the attached display so you can see them.

iturnedintoanewt OP ,
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…the first, I’m afraid. It continues to jump the windows out of place, about 3 times within 2 seconds, every 20 seconds or so…

iturnedintoanewt OP , in Help...First time installing a Radeon on Linux (7800 XT)
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Sigh…Just for the sake of it…It needed to recompile the kernel with the LATEST firmware you needed to download manually. Instructions here: askubuntu.com/…/how-to-make-ubuntu-22-04-work-wit…

I changed the file download to the latest, which at this moment is linux-firmware-20231111.tar.gz. After the update-initramfs, reboot (since I already ran the PPA earlier…to no avail), and this time it worked, and it immediately showed me the second monitor, which had been dead for the last couple of hours since I started fighting this thing.

iturnedintoanewt OP ,
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A second update after this is, since I’m using Wayland and multi-monitor (two HDMI connections, one the main monitor, the second to a big LCD TV)…when the TV is turned off, the monitor starts to flicker rearranging the windows (!?). I describe the issue a bit more in detail here… lemm.ee/post/14853567

tal , (edited ) in Help...First time installing a Radeon on Linux (7800 XT)
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IIRC, the drivers I needed were already in base Debian.

Is it not working out-of-box on your distro?

Once upon a time, they had proprietary drivers that you needed to download separately, but I don’t believe that that’s the situation today.

EDIT: Yeah, according to this, it’s all in the vanilla kernel now:

en.wikipedia.org/…/AMDgpu_(Linux_kernel_module)

You can go download their stuff if you want the absolute latest or something, but unless I had some kind of problem with the driver my distro shipped, I probably wouldn’t bother.

damolima ,

I also have a 7800 XT and use Debian. I had to download firmware from git.kernel.org, as not even the package in unstable is new enough: stable has 2023-02-10, unstable currently has 2023-05-15, while 7800 XT (and 7700 XT) needs 2023-08-04 or newerAt least bookworm-backports has a new enough kernel now. (6.5, IIRC 6.4 is the minimum.)

But to get ROCm working, I ended up adding AMD repositories and using its drivers with the 6.1 kernel from stable.

Mixel , in Help...First time installing a Radeon on Linux (7800 XT)

Never installed the amd drivers over their official site. Can’t you just download the required packages with apt? I guess then you should be fine

WeLoveCastingSpellz , in Distro suggestions, anyone?

Nobara! It is awesome for gaming and performsnce intensive tasks and beside being an obscure distro is maintained by reputable people (glorious eggroll, proton GE creayor)

n3cr0 OP ,

Thanks, and this will it be!

The kernel is heavily optimized for gaming and it has the latest AMD patches applied. Most gaming-related stuff comes pre-installed.

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

Yup!

Kekin , in Anyone have Garuda experience?
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I used it for a while on my laptop and I like that it comes with the BTFRS snapshots by default. I used the KDE Lite version I think it’s called.

yum13241 , in Anyone have Garuda experience?

It’s great! You can expect updates that don’t take literal years, but you will need to maintain your system a bit more (Garuda provides utilities to make it easier).

pelotron OP ,
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What are some examples of the additional maintenance you’ve had to do?

yum13241 ,

Simple stuff like managing some dependency issues (like when packages get renamed), actually knowing how to use the command line (you don’t need to learn awk, grep, and sed just yet), and knowing how your bootloader wants to be treated.

You’ll get it as time passes, but Garuda assists in most of these things.

pelotron OP ,
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Thanks!

alehc , in Anyone have Garuda experience?

I’m currently using Garuda! I love the arch features (rolling release, AUR, etc) and love the game integration tools: 1 click to install nvidia drivers, wine w/winetricks, retroarch, and a bunch more.

However sometimes I observe some kind of stuttering during games. I have a 3070Ti and that kind of stuff shouldn’t be happening on 5+ year old games.

I would still recommend it as a lot more people seems to be running it without issues, but idk, I guess no system is perfect.

Shade , in Anyone have Garuda experience?
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Garuda was the first Linux distro I was using as a daily driver. To me it was working nice out of the box with a Nvidia GPU and It was beginner friendly to me. I have since switched to Arch now, but yeah. Give it a go

Presi300 , in RTS recommendation
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StarCraft 2, it’s a classic and relatively easy to pick up. The only unfortunate thing about it it’s that is on battle.net, great have other than that

just_another_person , in Terakan Driver Continues Working To Bring Vulkan To The Radeon HD 6000 Series

To what effect though? How many people still have one of these sitting around?

vividspecter OP ,

They are relatively common in laptops and Wayland compositors will be trending toward Vulkan in the long run.

maggoats ,

I had one til a few months ago!

Granixo , in Terakan Driver Continues Working To Bring Vulkan To The Radeon HD 6000 Series
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That’s great for giving old cards more use i guess, but if i were him u would just keep working on Xenia or move to other proyects.

kttnpunk , in Anyone have Garuda experience?
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Garuda is easily my favorite arch based distro, nice to see ppl talking about it! Once you get used to using yay instead of apt-get and the AUR in general it’s such a better experience

detalferous ,

How does yay work? Is the workout similar to apt? Update, upgrade, and install commands?

kttnpunk ,
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To search the AUR and add a program:

yay (desired package) You’ll see multiple choices most likely, pick one and it’s pretty self-explanatory from there.

To remove program: yay -R (program)

system update/update all packages: yay -Syu

There are a few different package management tools too like Octopi which let you directly browse the AUR by category in a GUI but I think that’s pm the basics.

detalferous ,

Cool! Thanks for the reply!

ProtonBadger ,

With regards to Arch based distros: Do you still need to read Arch news to spot potentially breaking updates and know how to diff pacsave/pacnew, etc. or have Garuda found a way to manage these things?

kttnpunk ,
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It’s probably wise to check the forums regularly, I had to reinstall the entire OS once (arguably because of NVIDIA) but on more than one occasion it’s stopped a update for me because packages were in conflict. So it’s nice that there’s some foresight on their part.

pelotron OP ,
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What do the -Syu arguments mean? I associate them with the Arch meme of “go ahead and break my system without prompting me first.”

Penta ,

S is for sync, which installs packages from the repositories. u is for upgrade, which upgrades out-of-date packages. y causes pacman to refresh the package databases. In short, it upgrades all packages that are out of date. It’s a very standard command and not dangerous lol. Btw, with yay just typing in “yay” without -Syu does the same thing, which is convenient

pelotron OP ,
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Thank you!

bigmclargehuge ,
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Sanctus , in Anyone have Garuda experience?
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I can’t speak for Garuda, but if its Arch based I’d imagine it’d be pretty smooth. Gaming on Arch was like a few button clicks to enable proton in my laptop and thats it. I think theres a steam package on the AUR, idk if Garuda can use arch user repository I’ve never looked at it. I’d say go for it, especially if you backup your current setup.

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