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mojo , (edited ) in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

I’m using a GTX 1080 still and looking to upgrade to an AMD card. What’s a solid card I can get under $600?

edit: thanks dudes, picked up a 6700xt for $350

WellThisIsNew ,
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6700xt is very solid. I game at 1440p and as long as I don’t turn ray tracing on, it runs all of my games above 60fps at max settings. Admittedly I don’t play many AAA games. The most demanding game I’ve tried on it is probably Cyberpunk 2077.

mojo ,

Think I’ll pull the trigger and get that, only $350 so it’s decent. Now that I think about it, 2077 was also the last demanding game I played lol. My 1080 chugged on that. Also Gears of War it struggled. Doesn’t bother me too much anymore, idc about triple A games now. Mostly getting for better Linux support.

JineteDeAbuelas47 ,

I own a 6700xt and also play in 2k - there’s a great price quality relationship with this card and it performs great. This card will absolutely do the job and way more than enough - Unless you want to experience ray-tracing or VR but also linux sadly is not the best platform for those features

addie ,
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Raytracing is meant to be enabled on AMD cards in the Mesa 23.2 update, fwiw. But yeah, AMD aren’t really leading the way on that, so it’ll be mostly novelty value I fear.

miggs597 OP ,

If you’re willing to buy used there are mega cards going for under 600 on most marketplaces. Surplus, and little interest from consumers have brought back cheap second hand hardware. It’s really a buyers market right now.*

  • At least in the US
mojo ,

eh I never trust used computer parts, especially graphics cards. I always assume crypto mining.

tabular ,
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There are people out there selling broken cards but if the mining card works then is there really any evidence that it’s less performant or any more likely to fail than a lightly used gaming card?

I’ve almost always bought new but I’d prefer to buy used now to save money and hopefully find out if it has any coil wine. That’s if used prices were any different than new (Ebay’s UK used prices are dumb).

scutiger ,

Best bang for the buck is probably the 6700XT. It will run all the the biggest games at 1440p with decent fps. If you’re at 1080p, there’s nothing it can’t handle. If you’re looking at 4K gaming, you’re going to want a bit more juice if you want good framerates.

csolisr , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

And to think that if you want to use fully free software in your stack a la FSF, the answer is more like “my friendship ended with external GPUs, now the iGPU of a Librebooted Intel from ten years ago is my only friend left”

F04118F , (edited ) in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

Great post, thanks for sharing your experience with Nvidia in all those distros!

Just wanted to add: if you are stuck with Nvidia but want to get started gaming in Linux, install Pop!_OS . They have carefully tweaked Ubuntu to make even Nvidia “just work”. It works for me so far, on 2560x1440 @75Hz.

I would rather have some distro freedom with an AMD GPU but unfortunately my main (Windows) game (DCS World) does not work well in VR specifically with the RX7000 series drivers yet.

Owljfien ,

Good to know, I’ve just ordered a steam deck and if I find that I’m able to play everything I want on there, I might even move my main pc across.

The only real game with anticheat I play is csgo and with Cs2 imminent, I can’t imagine valve would lock Linux out on that.

I made the mistake of not getting rx7000 series so I guess I reap what I sow.

bobbyllama ,
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i do own a steam deck and can say with certainty that, after seeing how well it's handled every game i've thrown at it, i will be switching my primary pc to linux once support for win10 ends

yesdogishere ,

I think any gaming on games or boxes post 2019 is just silly. It is a horror minefield of broken and buggy programming and drivers. The best bet is to stick with all hardware and software pre 2018 , preferably running Linux. Windows sucks so stick with pre win10 if u can. Windows is doomed. Hang on to all your all hardware and stick with old games, everything past 2018 is about to slide into a massive shitshow of broken bugs.

JasSmith ,

Did they fix the issue where installing Steam would nuke the desktop?

bionade24 ,

IIRC it was already fixed when Linus did this, just not distributed. It was caused by the bluntness Linus developed due to unmeaningful Windows warnings in the 1st place.

JasSmith ,

It's so crazy that such a bug ever made it to production. I guess that's the cost of FOSS: installing Steam can nuke your entire desktop.

mccord ,

It’s nothing exclusive to open source. Eve Online removing boot.ini and bricking Windows installs was hilarious.

JasSmith ,

I googled that. 2007 right? Looks like the Eve devs bungled that. In this case it was the Pop_OS devs who introduced the bug.

bionade24 ,

The bug was that you couldn't install steam without faking a the installation of a dep that went down the dependency chain ending in a conflict of essential packages. The functionality to still proceed is a feature. Linus could also just have copied rm -rf --no-preserve-root / from the internet as solution and would have trusted it blindly. If you want to be nannied all the way, I'd suggest you switch to iOS for everything.

JasSmith ,

Blaming the user for installing Steam is the most Linux response imaginable. The user above explained it was a bug.

bionade24 , (edited )

If Linus would be a non-techie, he would have tried to install it with a graphical AppStore, it wouldn't have worked and he'd either given up or found the flatpak version of Steam, which would have worked. Not restricting power users is a good aspect. If I play around with Windows registry to force the removal of edge, Linus would blame me, not Windows. You have to differentiate between things normal users tried and things Linus attempted because he has some technical knowledge.

Some random user saying anything doesn't make anything true, you don't believe flat-earthers on the internet, either.

bgtlover ,

@bionade24 @miggs597 @F04118F @JasSmith I'm a bit out of the loop here, but what was the bug actually? Did he do this on livestream?

JasSmith ,

There was a library incompatibility between the Steam image in the Pop_OS package manager and the OS. It was caused by a bug introduced by the Pop_OS developers. Linus tried to install Steam using the package manager and it failed. So he went on Google to find out how to install Steam on Pop_OS. A thousand blogs and forums told him to enter "sudo apt-get install Steam", which he did. Unfortunately doing so automatically uninstalls certain important desktop components in Pop_OS.

It wasn't on livestream, but you can see the process here: https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M?t=581

bgtlover ,

@JasSmith @miggs597 @F04118F @bionade24 lol, that's completely hilarious imo. Still though, that bug is definitely weird, I never got it my self on ubuntu or any of its derivatives. Is it only a pop OS issue then?

JasSmith ,

If I play around with Windows registry to force the removal of edge, Linus would blame me, not Windows.

He didn't "play around" with anything. He entered, "sudo apt-get install Steam". That comes straight from thousands of blogs and help sites which instruct users to do just that when they have issues installing Steam.

miggs597 OP ,

Thank you!

Talking about games, I’m so happy I don’t have any title that I play stuck on Windows. None EAC games always worked for me when I started using Linux full time, but I was only able to delete my Windows partition after Apex added support for EAC on Linux. Ever since I haven’t looked back :)

Owljfien , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

As someone who hasn’t tried to game on Linux but just use it as a server with my old pc hardware, dealing with nvidia shit is just a massive pain in the ass.

I was only using one monitor and yet it’d never pick up edid properly and other random quirks.

I chucked an Intel arc in there for av1 encoding on jellyfin and after getting to kernel 6.2 it also “just worked”.

It’s amazing how much of a difference it can make when the manufacturer gives even one quarter of a shit about Linux.

root , in issues installing nobara project

What is the size of the usb stick you’re flashing it onto? Maybe try it again with a bigger usb stick?

cold OP ,

it was actually the nvidia drivers that was in the install, had to modify the boot so i can download and install the proprietary drivers. everything is running perfectly smooth now :) i was using a 16gb USB

root ,

Good to know you solved your issue. I remember in Nobara 36 I flashed it onto a 4gb stick and it was pretty full. Wasn’t sure if the subsequent releases increased in size or not. :p

cold OP ,

good to know for future use in case i want to distro hop, doubtful tho since nobara is running smooth for me so far. enjoying my linux experience!

root , in Space Engineers issues

Are you starting a game with lots of mods enabled?

Can you try creating a new save with no mods enabled and see if you still get crashes? I think some of the mods in the Steam workshop just doesn’t work well in Linux.

laskobar OP ,

No blank Vanilla, but all DLC’s

root ,

Very interesting. I’ve had similar issues that you had but it was when joining a friend’s multiplayer server with lots of mods. Single player works fine for me.

Sorry, I can’t think of any other possible solutions for you to try.

TheAgeOfSuperboredom , in What is the most reliable (see: plug-and-play) distro for SteamVR on Linux?

I don’t have an Index, but I’m running Arch and using ALVR with a Quest 2. It works reasonably well, but Steam VR does sometimes require me to restart it. Also, some games just don’t run via Proton. Many games do just work though. I’m having a blast playing Alyx right now! It runs well through Proton.

PHLAK , in What is the most reliable (see: plug-and-play) distro for SteamVR on Linux?
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Ubuntu

Pyroglyph OP ,
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Pop!_OS is derived from Ubuntu, and it didn’t work very well for me. Have you got any reasons why regular Ubuntu might work better?

warmaster ,

Old GNOME maybe? Idk if wayland + mutter has anything to do with it.

phx ,

Yeah I had horrible issues with stutter in PopOS. There was a very long running thread with many people having similar issues. It was a thing across multiple CPU’s and video cards that simply didn’t occur on other distros, but seemed to be some sort of IO throttling.

Went back to Mint/Ubuntu and haven’t had an issue since, but the forum was showing people continuing to have the issues on PopOS for 6mo+ after I quit it

gabriele97 , in Space Engineers issues
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As shown in protodb, it doesn't seem to be too much compatible yet. You can try to see if there is something available on Lutris or you can open an issue on GitHub (if it doesn't exist)

insaneduck , (edited ) in Steam Deck vs. ASUS ROG Ally Arch Linux Gaming Performance

Tbh i would still go with steam deck. I would rather deal with steam support than asus support. Steam has excellent track record of exemplary support, when i lost my account they recovered it within 3hours while providing me proper updates. While asus tried to back out of warranty by releasing a beta bios and added disclaimer saying using it void’s warranty but if you don’t use it, it might fry cpu. It could be honest mistake and it could be a placeholder text they add by default to every beta bios. But I would rather spend my days enjoy using my device not worrying about the manufacturer of the device I bought. Now if this asus vs some other manufacturer like msi then asus is the clear winner.

INeedMana , in Space Engineers issues
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Have you seen this?

laskobar OP ,

Yes, but there is no clear instructions. Only some vague recommendations. None of them is working at least for me

INeedMana ,
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You mean WINEPREFIX=“{install location}/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/244850/pfx/” sh winetricks --force -q dotnet48 doesn’t help?

laskobar OP ,

Not really. In my case i start it from within Steam Library and not from commandline, but i have tried the --force -q dotnet48 shortcut also, with no positive result. Yesterday, I could play the game for more than 3 hours, but today, starting it the same way, it crashes after loading 1% of the save game.

I’m starting it now in a parallel installed Windows, where the save game location is shared between both OS (-appdata “/path/to/folder” -skipintro). Maybe i find a better way and must not boot to Windows. Since i start this really seldom, it has to download a lot of Updates before i can continue.

INeedMana ,
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Then I have no other idea than to take a look into what it logs:

  1. Execute steam with PRESSURE_VESSEL_SHELL=instead steam
  2. launch the game
  3. in the term that will open type “$@” (with the ") and inspect the output .You can redirect it, but steam executes games in a container so not all other directories will be available to write to
DishonestBirb , in Outer Worlds Spacers Choice Edition: Horrible, Nausea inducing texture/model flickering. Please help?

That’s truly odd, I’m running a Ryzen 5600G and a 6700XT and the game is rock solid (Fedora 38, Gnome, Wayland). Runs great on Steam Deck as well. I wonder if the RX580 is the culprit? If MESA is up to date, try a newer kernel for updated Radeon driver? (I assume as Ubuntu 22.04 is LTS that you’re on an older kernel)

A_Random_Idiot OP ,

Ah, Sorry, I knew I was forgetting something. No, I updated to Kernal 6.3 some time ago, Which i think is the latest stable?

Defaced , in Valve Makes RADV Driver More Robust For Gaming With VK_EXT_pipeline_robustness

Valve hard at work making our lives on Linux just a little easier. Gotta love the effort they’ve put in.

zyphel ,
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@Defaced @Voytrekk Yes, Valve are a bunch of legends. We have a solid gaming on Linux solution because of them.

8275232 , in Steam Deck vs. ASUS ROG Ally Arch Linux Gaming Performance

Thanks for sharing – I think that if I were to buy a handheld PC now, the ASUS ROG would be it. Having had a Steamdeck since release though, I don’t think I could go back to not having the sleep/resume function for gaming, especially on the go. It’s still not perfect for games that have some sort of always-online component (I don’t blame Steam OS for that), but it’s definitely the killer feature of the deck for me.

Still though, the smaller size, reported quietness, screen and performance of the ROG at it’s price point make me really excited for what options will be around when I decide to upgrade.

Voytrekk OP ,
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There is a lot of work towards making the Ally compatible by the team at ChimeraOS. Once they finish up, the Ally should have plenty of its features supported.

A_Random_Idiot ,

Hopefully they don’t support ASUS’s penchant for flammability, lol.

Voytrekk OP , in ProtonUp-Qt v2.8.1 improves Heroic Games Launcher support
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  • Load more Proton-Tkg releases if none found on the first batch

This is a nice change since I prefer to use these for battle.net games.

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