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Video: Why Linux Beats Windows (convince your normie friends)

You can do all the privacy measures in the world, but if the people you talk to are using spyware then it’s all out the window. (literally Windows, get it?)

This video breaks down some of the basic reasons to switch to Linux so you can convince your friends: …simplifiedprivacy.com/why-linux-beats-windows/

whodoctor11 ,
@whodoctor11@lemmy.world avatar

Cringe

awwsom ,
@awwsom@beehaw.org avatar

now again another issue i’ll tell you. I wawnt to install Nvim and then add lazyvim to it. EZPZ. No, if you install using apt you get version 0.7.2 but lazyvim require version 08 at least, apt doenst have a newer version… Ok uninstall it and then install using flatpak… but oh no now it I can’ open nvim using the terminal. Now if i tell my normie friends that i spent 2 hours just to find out that it can’t be done. They’ll laugh at me and tell me to switch to windows.

MJBrune ,

I have a friend who’s tried Linux a ton, had it as a daily driver in the past but got fed up with the maintenance and issues Linux brings. Some issues aren’t Linux problems but more like anti Linux solutions. Like vemio drm excludes Linux so you can’t watch dropout.tv on Linux. Or that game pass doesn’t work. You can’t blame Linux for these things. But then he has Linux problems on top of that. Last month he tried debian and it took hours for the os to see his video card and then to setup the drivers. I don’t know why it took him so long. Before that he was trying to setup a system wide vpn and had to go into the console to configure things with convoluted and unintuitive commands. I do agree that the commands aren’t intuitive.

He hates Ubuntu because he feels like Ubuntu diminishes the reasoning to get Linux in the first place and I can see his point but also if your want to use Linux then use something simple despite his previous usage of it as his daily driver and constant use of it as a web dev, clearly something changed and things need to be relearned.

Then again, he doesn’t like that 99% of apps or there like discord just don’t have a good Linux path so you have to randomly trust some potentially bad actor to keep discord updated.

kyub ,

Some issues aren’t Linux problems but more like anti Linux solutions

These exist but often you can avoid them by using alternatives. I recommend not supporting LInux-hostile companies/services at all. Problem solved. This problem will continue to exist as long as Linux has low marketshare. So, the answer is not moving away from Linux, but rather to it, so that companies can’t ignore Linux users anymore. Also, using Linux has many advantages in termss of user control/agency, privacy and security.

He hates Ubuntu because he feels like Ubuntu diminishes the reasoning to get Linux in the first place

That’s nonsense, there is no “true way” to use Linux. It’s an operating system and there are distros which abstract a lot of lower level stuff away just like Windows or OS X do (e.g. Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, OpenSuSE, …) and there are distros which don’t (or which simply don’t care about including such things) and thus are considered more “for advanced users”, where more stuff needs to be maintained/configured by hand and where less GUI-based tools are available by default. Some people actually like that sort of minimalism and the increased control, but of course it’s not for everyone.

Also, if he has trouble with the commandline usage, then it doesn’t make any sense for him NOT to use e.g. Ubuntu. Because then he obviously needs the “hand holding” of an “easier to use” distro like Ubuntu. So he shouldn’t complain about it. But this is not meant to disrespect the accomplishments of Ubuntu. The most popular OSes/distros are theones which are easier to use and which abstract a lot of things away. Because otherwise, it’d just be a distro for more tech savvy people, period. Then again, if he’s a dev he should in theory be more than tech savvy enough to use Linux as a daily driver.

Then again, he doesn’t like that 99% of apps or there like discord just don’t have a good Linux path so you have to randomly trust some potentially bad actor to keep discord updated.

I recommend using the Flatpak versions of GUI apps (in general). It’s very easy and it’s a trusted source to get tons of applications from. Although for Discord in particular, I don’t reocmmend it, I’d just use the web version tucked away in a browser (ideally sandboxed) without too many permissions on your system. Because Discord is spyware, so it’s best to keep it in check, if you need to use it. Running it in a browser automatically limits the amount of data they can gather about your system.

awwsom ,
@awwsom@beehaw.org avatar

I reinstalled ubuntu 23 today and after sleep the laptop was just stuck at async error. No way to get out of it other than force shutdown. This happened twice out of 3 times i put it to sleep.

you think if i told a normie this is the issue i face he will switch to linux?

BCsven ,

Hardware can be an issue, but for sleep and even hibernate I would suggest OpenSUSE, it has not failed me

ShadowRebel OP ,

surely there are never problems with windows

awwsom ,
@awwsom@beehaw.org avatar

i also have windows installed and no it never did apparently.

Lanthanae ,
@Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If anything, that video makes me want to quit Linux because of how much cringe it made me feel.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Jfc, Linux isn’t a religion, we don’t have to proselytize. We aren’t any fucking different to call anyone “normie”, which is bullshit to begin with.

You wanna spread Linux? You use it, and if someone asks, you talk about it in an honest and friendly manner. That’s all anyone needs to do.

Quazatron ,
@Quazatron@lemmy.world avatar

Amen, brother!

Leading by example is the proper way forward.

Most people hate to be told that they should be using X because it is so much better than Y or Z.

Belittling the other person’s preferences is a sure way to lose their interest.

Kovu ,
@Kovu@lemmy.world avatar

nOrMiEs

the_postminimalist ,

That voice was really difficult to listen to. And then talking about how Bill Gates shoves left wing media down our throats and uses msnbc as an example lol

azvasKvklenko ,

Thanks for your service, now we don’t have to continue into the video

ShadowRebel OP ,

so… bill gates is on the right now?

the_postminimalist , (edited )

He’s a capitalist and one of the richest people in the world. Nothing about him fits the bill of a leftist. I think you’re coming at this with the US’s perception of the left, like the democratic party, which wouldn’t be considered left almost anywhere else in the world.

Linus Torvalds is a bit more of a leftist, and the whole ideology of Linux is pretty fitting for the left.

ShadowRebel OP ,

Bill Gates is a hypocrite. He got wealthy off capitalism, yet often promotes socialist type policies. Also his policy ideas involve centralized control. And MSN links are promoted by bing

You’re correct that Linux is free and therefore less corporate. But one could also argue that it’s anti-big tech and google/microsoft are on the left. Also privacy is anti-NSA, and in this sense anti-government would be considered the right. However, people of all sides can enjoy Linux

the_postminimalist ,

God I wish he promoted socialist policies. But he certainly does not. I do not agree with the statement that “the biggest capitalists in the world are actually socialists”.

People on the left are generally anti big tech, anti-google, anti-microsoft, anti-NSA. Anti-government is also not inherently right wing, especially if you look at anarchists instead of tankies. But adding restrictions onto giant corporations (that effectively become more powerful than the government) is more of a leftist opinion.

ShadowRebel OP ,

Let’s start with the basics. Do you acknowledge that msn.com news leans to the left? Then do you acknowledge that Microsoft Bing and Windows, promote MSN?

the_postminimalist ,

I do not agree that MSN is left. Maybe it’s liberal, but liberal is not left.

ShadowRebel OP ,

What defines left then?

the_postminimalist ,

To me, it’s about removing the ability for a few people to hoard wealth that they’ll never use for the sake of power and control. It’s about people helping their community to whatever extent is reasonable, so if you make 7 figures a day, either pay a big chunk of that money back to your workers who do most of the heavy lifting, or give it back to the community as a whole, rather than stuffing it in a Swiss bank.

It’s about building our city’s infrastructure in a more livable and accessible way for the general public, like affordable high speed transit and bike lanes for those who just want to go from A to B without dealing with the headaches of a car if they don’t need one.

It’s about being against capitalism and the way it gives power to giant corporations, and allows them to create a monopoly, disallowing most innovative small businesses from getting anywhere.

It’s about working on the high cost of living inside cities where most people must live in order to cover important jobs, using techniques like buildings made by either the government, where rent equals only the cost of upkeep, with no further outward profit, or buildings built by a private company, where they need to have at least a certain percentages of units have its rent cost only enough to cover upkeep costs.

Liberals are none of these things. They are driven by what makes a profit for corporations and their shareholders. Conservatives are not much different. I believe conservative voters think they’re different, but don’t realize that in office, conservatives and liberals vote on all the same stuff ghat gives corporations this level of power and growth.

ShadowRebel OP ,

True or False: Bill Gates said he favors higher tax rates than now. And MSN and “Liberals” on CNN/MSNBC want higher tax rates as well?

the_postminimalist ,

I’ve never heard of him suggesting any actual wealth redistribution. I don’t follow MSN at all, but I’d imagine by higher taxes they mean slightly more taxes on people making 6 figures. I don’t care about people making only 6 figures. I don’t believe Bill Gates is out there promoting policies that will relinquish his financial power.

Are you from the US? I think the lack of a leftist political party has skewed what Americans view as left. Not even any of the third parties (with a leader eligible to be president) are left. The democratic party of the USA is most closely aligned with the conservative party of canada, from the policies that I’ve seen

Diplomjodler ,

Friends? If i had friends I wouldn’t be using Linux, would I?

housepanther ,
@housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com avatar

LOL! Not necessarily. I got three of my friends converted to Linux. They’re running Linux Mint

mrvictory1 ,

For how long are they running Linux?

housepanther ,
@housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com avatar

6 months now and they love it.

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