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anyone who uses Linux on apple silicon or another arm device

No, android does not count.

Is there anyone who daily drives Linux on apple silicon or other ARM hardware? If so, then how is your experience, would you recommend it?

For at least 3 years, I’ve been wanting to get an apple silicon mac to daily drive Linux on, lately I’ve been seriously considering getting one of these machines, or even other ARM hardware, like the thinkpad x13s or even the new Qualcomm laptops.

I’m pretty much sold on a used macbook air m1 at this point, but I still wish to hear what other people have to say

independantiste ,
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From experience, most apps/packages that are compiled for Linux are compiled for both x86 and arm. I’ve had no real issues getting software on my OnePlus 6 running on postmarket os (full Linux os on a phone basically). This is very likely because ARM is a thing in the server space, so most packages in your distros repositories will be compiled for all architectures (and that’s if it’s not required by the distro’s repos to have the two supported).

Other software ftom outside the repos where linux was already a second class citizen like discord or Spotify may be troublesome though

bloodfart ,

Don’t ditch macOS on the m1. Asahi has some critical features missing and you’ll want to be able to switch back.

why ,

Torvalds is using an apple Silicon now. He has some talks about how it is.

just_another_person ,

arm64 != M* hardware

Arm on Linux is fine. Supporting all the other SoC parts will obviously vary by vendor. I believe there are still many things broken with Apple’s M* platform, but I’m pretty sure it boots. If you really want an Arm laptop, get one the new Qualcomm setups.

richardisaguy OP ,
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github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki

Things are progressing really fast actually! Take a look at the feature support page

just_another_person ,

Well, I guess that’s subjective heh. The very rudimentary basics work on M3, but it’s not in any way capable of daily driving. M1 looks to be the safest if you really need to go with Apple, but it seems you’d be much better off with the Qualcomm as it has native support.

theunknownmuncher ,

I was using the pinebook pro ARM laptop with manjaro linux as a semi-daily driver for a while. It is fine for simple tasks and web browsing, but you cannot expect the hardware to be quick or snappy. I had consistent issues with wifi, and eventually I got fed up with the weak performance and switched back to an x86-64 architecture laptop. In terms of software and support, besides the wifi issues, it was fine

phanto ,

Ditto, except mine just died one day. I put it away for bed, woke up, flipped it open, Nada. Brick. I felt it was a bit slower than I’d like, but got pretty good battery life.

Really tempted to try a Musebook, based on Risc-V, because apparently I’m a sucker for punishment.

solrize , (edited )

I’ve done some embedded arm Linux dev work and use a raspberry pi 400 and an android phone. All work fine.

refalo ,

For at least 3 years, I’ve been wanting to get an apple silicon mac to daily drive Linux on

Can you tell us why?

richardisaguy OP ,
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Since the first release of apple silicon I was quite a bit impressed with the hardware, of course im not really an apple guy, and so I initially thought “cool, but that’s not for me”

And then came asahi linux, and it changed everything, in a very short period they got the GPU working, and then came vulkan, opengl 4 and 4.2, most stuff seems to be working already, either on the bleeding edge kernel or the mainline; github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wikiTake a look at the feature support page, it’s really impressive.

I started to study more and more the development of Linux on apple silicon, and even more so after my laptop’s hinge has broken(tldr: I don’t have a laptop anymore, it’s just a PC); recently I’ve been wanting to buy a new laptop, so I can actually use it as one, of course, as any Latin American, I wish to buy for the long run, and all the options seem to be:

1 - Qualcomm laptops designed for windows ridden with shitware, useless AI, and a ducking copilot key( also I have terrible experience with the firmware of my current windows first laptop, I do not wish for more) 2 - Recent or older terribly power inefficient X86 laptops(mine is from 2021, the battery life sucked, even in windows, and it just heats up so easily, I don’t think it can even maintain maximum clock for 5 minutes straight) 3 - Apple silicon macs designed for macOS first that have a decent compatibility with linux, that will only get better with time.

Of course, I do believe X86 will get better with time, as it has already gotten, but until then, I either stick with my current deplorable hardware and wait until the improvements get actually mainstream, or buy another older x86 laptop, just to retire it later on.

LinusSexTips ,

Linux on Qualcomm laptops really that bad? I’ve been considering a purchase of a 1st gen once the 2nd gen comes out (probably grab an ex display model on the cheap).

I’ve not been following developments closely enough, but I know the battery life (in windows at least) is tiers better than my current 4800hs / 1650 with 65% battery health.

I’ve too considered a MacBook, but their never within my budget for the spec that I want, guess I was too hopeful about Qualcomm laptops 😞

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