“Something has gone seriously wrong,” dual-boot systems warn after Microsoft update

that_leaflet OP , 4 hours ago

The TLDR is that Microsoft released a secure boot update that blocked insecure versions of GRUB. This update was only meant to go out to Windows users since releasing it to dual booted users could break GRUB. However, it was accidentally also released to dual-booted users.

The fix involves disabling dual boot, running a command to reset secure boot, then re-enabling.

Zoidsberg , 3 hours ago

accidentally

Right.

getoffthedrugsdude , 3 hours ago

Accidentally on purpose

clif , 4 hours ago

Ah, delete the windows partition. That should keep me safe.

eager_eagle , 3 hours ago

Secure boot borking systems? Windows assuming it’s the only OS on the machine? I’m shocked

that_leaflet OP , 3 hours ago

Windows assuming it’s the only OS on the machine

That’s not the case. The update was only meant to go out to Windows users. But Microsoft messed up and accidentally released to all users, or at least some who weren’t supposed to receive it. My guess is that Microsoft usually doesn’t update secure boot stuff for dual boot users and instead waits for the distro to push the update.

eager_eagle , 2 hours ago

The bottom line is that a windows update broke grub. Again.

StrawberryPigtails , 3 hours ago

And this is why I don’t dual boot anymore. Or run Windows anymore for that matter. Learn to play nicely with others please, Microsoft.

gramgan , 2 hours ago

Newbie question: does this affect people using systemd-boot? Does anyone use systemd-boot?

ExtremeDullard , 2 hours ago

Windows is best run in a VM in Linux. Who knows what the hell it does when it’s running on bare metal. Do you trust Microsoft not to poke around in your Linux disks when you boot into Windows? I don’t.

Emotet , 22 minutes ago

Windows, as any operating system, is best run in a context most useful to the user and appropriate for the user’s technical level.

• Need to run Windows apps/games and aren’t afraid to tinker around if and when something doesn’t work as expected or your software simply isn’t supported? WINE/Proton.
• Need to run mostly light Windows apps and don’t want to tinker around? VM.
• Need to run Windows apps/games that don’t rely on Kernel-Level Anti-Cheat, want direct hardware access and aren’t afraid to tinker around, especially if you only have one GPU, and when something doesn’t work as expected? KVM
• Need to run any Windows app/game without things constantly breaking or the need to tinker around and staying on top of things? Dual-Boot from different disks, utilize LUKS/FDE and be done with it.

dsilverz , 2 hours ago

Simultaneously, Microsoft has been expanding their efforts so to require Windows users to upgrade to Windows 11, even those who own old machines that don’t have TPM 2.0, while those machines are prohibited to really upgrade to Windows 11, meaning that their owners would need to buy another PC/laptop. Several Windows users were using a cheat to install Windows 11 without TPM 2.0, but Microsoft has been patching it, so it’s going to be a no more. Users of Windows 10 will have two options: buy another PC or migrate to Linux. I’d bet Microsoft already knows the latter possibility. Several distros generally come with the option “dual-boot installation” as default, so there are many novel Linux users, migrating from Windows, that chose to keep Windows together with Linux (so to not lose files and configs they made on Windows). What if something broke Linux and these users that are trying to escape Windows are now forced to use Windows?

SpaceNoodle , 15 minutes ago

I was planning to boot into Windows on one of my craptops in order to test a fox from a chip vendor whose configuration software only runs on Windows, but I guess I’ll just … not.