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RandomLegend ,
@RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

NixOS

cizra ,

Nix flakes, me.

leastprivilege ,

I just started yesterday in a VM. It’s no stress and you can easily put your configuration on metal after. Pretty fun stuff.

RandomLegend ,
@RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I have my garuda installation just where and how i want it to be. NixOS just always seemed very interesting, but i don’t want to run it on my daily machine.

gramgan OP ,

The most satisfying part of the NixOS process is deploying to bare metal and watching it work exactly as you intend it to

theshatterstone54 ,

Agreed, but I found getting NixOS the way I want it, to be super overwhelming, and documentation simply sucks. I’ve been thinking of forking ZaneyOS (Link: gitlab.com/Zaney/zaneyos) and basing my NixOS config on it. Otherwise, it’s just too much.

apotheotic ,

Estroge- oh, I’m in the Linux community whoops

4am ,

No, no - legit! Do go on.

fern ,

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Estrogen, is in fact, GNU/Estrogen, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Estrogen. Estrogen is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Estrogen, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Estrogen, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Estrogen is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Estrogen is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Estrogen added, or GNU/Estrogen. All the so-called Estrogen distributions are really distributions of GNU/Estrogen!

I_am_10_squirrels ,

Is your gender POSIX-compliant?

Synthuir ,

“I use Estrogen as my operating system,” I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. “Actually”, he says with a grin, "Estrogen is just the kernel. You use GNU+Estrogen!’ I don’t miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn’t include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It’s Estrogen, but it’s not GNU+Estrogen.

The smile quickly drops from the man’s face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams “I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT’S STILL GNU!” Coolly, I reply “If Testosterone was compiled With gcc, would that make it GNU?” I interrupt his response with “-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long.”

With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man’s life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I’ve womansplained him to death.

Magister ,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

docker I guess, I still don’t know how it works, create them, etc

kionite231 ,

You don’t have to know how it works in order to use it. I don’t know either but I could host services using docker. trust me it’s way easier than it seems.

warmaster ,

Same here. Even easier if you use an app to manage it for you like dockge, portainer, Cosmos, etc.

IronKrill ,

You don’t have to… if the project you want to use has a good setup process. Otherwise you’ll be scouring Docker docs, GitHub issues, and StackOverflow for years.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Doker, how they work?

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Bcachefs, and bcachefs on root. Need something with filesystem level encryption instead of LUKS, and *ubuntu’s and derivatives have all abandoned ZFS on root installs now.

cizra ,

What’s your use case for FS-level encryption? LUKS has worked for me so far, I wonder where I’m missing out.

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

Bcachefs has filesystem encryption without LUKS? Did this have an audit? I use BTRFS and it is fine, but boot is unencrypted (using TPM would be cool)

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bcachefs

Bcachefs is a copy-on-write (COW) file system for Linux-based operating systems.[3] Features include caching,[4] full file-system encryption using the ChaCha20 and Poly1305 algorithms,[5] native compression[4] via LZ4, gzip[6] and Zstandard,[7] snapshots,[4] CRC-32C and 64-bit checksumming.[3] It can span block devices, including in RAID configurations.[5]

I see it has an audit back in 2017, but I’ve yet to find anything newer. The finding was good, but suggested further audit be done.

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

I dont see the difference to BTRFS apart from encryption and maybe caching? I was always confused why people hype it so much.

Interesting, yes I wouldnt not use LUKS if the alternative is less known, not used by enterprise distros

Badabinski ,

The tiered storage stuff is pretty cool. You can say "I want this data on this disk, so if I get a cache miss from a faster disk/RAM it'll come from this other disk first."

I believe it also has some interesting ways of handling redundancy like erasure coding, and I thiiiink it does some kind of byte-level deduplication? I don't know if that's implemented or is even still planned, but I remember being quite excited for it. It was supposed to be dedupe without all of the hideous drawbacks that things like ZFS dedupe have.

EDIT: deduplication is absolutely not a thing yet. I don't know if it's still on the roadmap.

EDIT: Erasure coding is deffo implemented, however.

UnfortunateShort ,

It’s mainly supposed to be simpler and by extension faster than btrfs (which is kinda proven by the fact that fewer devs made this thing work in less time when compared to btrfs). It happens to enable some extra features that way too.

However, while btrfs annecdotally had many issues, it’s used by big players like SUSE and even bigger ones like Facebook these days. bcachefs on the other hand is nowhere near as battle tested, so I’ll stay away from it for a little longer.

Tywele ,

I want to use Neovim but I haven’t gotten around to really learning it yet.

cizra ,

NeoVim is almost a drop-in replacement for Vim (the configuration file is under .config). Plugin installation might be different, tho.

Find a migration guide and be brave.

iiGxC ,

I used neovim but recently switched to helix and highly recommend it. If you haven’t tried nvim yet, give helix a try before deciding. A good way to compare is do the tutorial of each and see which you like more nvim +Tutor and hx --tutor (orhelix --tutor).

If you’re a current vim user the helix keybindings are only a small learning curve after the tutorial, and feel a lot smoother imo

narc0tic_bird ,

I love Helix. I like that it pretty much works out of the box and the only thing you have to do is install language servers and in some cases configure them, but that’s (mostly) well documented. No need to install plugins or use a preset “distribution” like with NeoVim. I also like the built-in keyboard shortcut hints, for example when you press g (goto) it shows you what key will do what.

The way Helix does “select first, then act” is subjective, but I like it.

iiGxC ,

Agree on all counts. I didn’t like finding and comparing plugins for neovim, and then wrestling with environment stuff to get them to work, and having to change a bunch of options to get nvim to work how I want. With helix, my config of things I’ve changed from default is very small, and there’s no wrestling with plugins.

And yeah, “select then act” feels a lot smoother and more intuitive to me. If you like that and like plugins tho, check out kakuone

jbrains ,

This is the reason I liked kakoune right away after I started using it: select, then act, and every movement is also a selection.

Sunny ,

Could you elaborate on what helix is?

iiGxC ,

A keyboard and terminal based text editor, similar in some ways to neovim, vim, and vi

jimitsoni18 ,

I’ve used helix for a few months and liked a few default keybindings. Didn’t like the reversed sequences (movement then action) so switched back to neovim and configured helix like bindings for some actions.

dinckelman ,

The learning curve is absolutely colossal, especially if you want to use it as a full IDE. Even with the legend panel it still doesn’t tell you have the story

morbidcactus ,

That’s me as well, I’ve used vim for simple edits over the years but more and more just used nano for most of my terminal based edits. Finally ran vimtutor (mainly because I wasn’t aware of it) and wow, I should have done that years ago.

konidia ,

Common Lisp. It would take a long while before I’m comfortable working on a project using that language. There’s also Lem editor but setting it up is a pain on NixOS.

gramgan OP ,

That’s my first time hearing of Lem—it looks fantastic. What’s the issue with it on NixOS?

konidia ,
  • There is no lem package on NixOS.
  • Common lisp related packages tend to be outdated
  • NixOS violates FHS to allow each packages to build against specific versions of dependencies, so CL tools might not work as expected.
livingcoder ,

Neovim. I tried to use it a year ago, but I felt like I was fighting it every time I just wanted to make progress on my project. VSCode doesn’t get in my way. I’m going to give it another shot in a few years.

Goun ,

Haven’t used neovim, but I had to try vim way too many times. I can’t use anything else now.

theshatterstone54 ,

Try kickstart.nvim. I was skeptical until I tried it. It’s a very good starting point for Neovim. Pretty much eberything else I’ve ever tried is either too bloated, too complicated, too outdated, too overwhelming, or a mix of the above. Link: github.com/nvim-lua/kickstart.nvim

pingveno ,

Lapce, an IDE written in Rust. It’s nice and light compared to most IDE’s, so I use it a bit on my aging laptop from 2015. However, it doesn’t have the extension ecosystem or polish of my favored IDE, VS Code.

fluxx ,

Have you tried zed? Written in rust, has many extensions. I gave it a try, I quite like it. It’s blazing fast. But I haven’t tried on an old machine.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

Zed - I’ve been kind of using it for one-off edits, but it’s just not mature yet for most languages.

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

And they use extremely bad coding practices

devraza ,
@devraza@lemmy.ml avatar

Have a source?

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

Somewhere on Lemmy but dont bother to look as it has no search.

There also is a Github issue. Search for “zed automatic download plugins”

@apt_install_coffee

apt_install_coffee ,

Care to elaborate?

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Anything beyond setting up a network-wide dns blocker on docker, so… crowdsec, fail2ban, some proxy-related stuff, zero trust tunnelers and so on.

Why? Because its overkill to my current setup and I don’t see myself using em for real other than for learning purposes, and thats it.

And before someone asks “Do you protect your server at all?”. Other than making some “hacky” stuff with my internet so all ports appear as closed whilst they actually aren’t? Eh, not really. Still, my server is about to reach a year of running nonstop 24/7 and it has never been hacked a single time since then, so naaaw.

cizra ,

How do you tell whether it’s been hacked? The hallmark of a good hack is invisibility, like modifying logs. Do you perhaps count SSH sessions in your router and verify it against client logs, or somesuch technique?

pr06lefs ,

I kind of want to try wayland just to be modern, but I’m pretty happy with xmonad and don’t want to learn another window manager.

cizra ,

I migrated from XMonad to Sway, it checks all my requirements. I don’t miss the Turing-complete configurability.

communism ,
@communism@lemmy.ml avatar

You might want to look into River, a tiling Wayland compositor inspired by xmonad. Disclaimer, I’ve not actually used xmonad before so I’m not in a position to compare the two. But River is configured entirely through riverctl commands. Its “config” is an executable, by default at $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/river/init but you can point it to a different path, which can technically be any executable file that just executes when River starts. Ordinarily it’d be a shell script calling all the riverctl commands you want to get your River set up the way you like it, but it could be any executable you like really. You can also use other languages other than shell scripting.

It’s still in pretty early development, but I daily drive it for my main general-purpose machine and it works completely fine. I use it for web browsing, coding, gaming, chatting, general productivity, etc, all works. I’ve noticed some minor hiccups but nothing breaking or unusable. Tbh I would say it’s more stable than Hyprland which I’ve also used and have noticed that Hyprland updates (especially from git) would frequently break it, whereas I was running River compiled from the latest commit of master branch for a while and never had an update break things.

boredsquirrel ,
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I want to use COSMIC but its design sucks, I prefer KDE (and on the Rust side: slint).

I want to use GNOME as what it does works great, but it lacks a whole list of features I use.

I want to use Haruna or many other KDE apps, but GNOME/GTK apps are often better and I dont care.

I want to use Gapless as it is the only music player on Linux that seems to not suck? But it lacks many features.

davidgro ,

I want to use GNOME as what it does works great, but it lacks a whole list of features I use.

Watch the list actually get longer over time.

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/…/127071

Including a bit of ranting

pingveno ,

Does COSMIC’s design suck or is it in pre-alpha?

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

No that is the design they want. If something is ready, then their design.

theshatterstone54 ,

Its design sucks

Agreed. But I’m SO tired of trying to find and configure a good tiling WM that has rounded corners and isn’t impossible to install or created by assholes (it also helps that nice QoL features like easy kb layout switching are included ootb).

Qtile, when scenefx support happens (which will happen when scenefx releases v1.0 aka anytime between this year and the next decade by the looks of things), will be perfect for me but until then, I’m torn between Qtile, Hyprland and COSMIC.

saltesc ,

Python. Been wanting to learn it for years but all mental capacity I have toward such stuff is drained by work. The whole situation is ironic.

rotopenguin ,
@rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

Look at “The Farmer Was Replaced”

danielquinn ,
@danielquinn@lemmy.ca avatar

Btrfs. I’ve been using ext4 for so long, I’m afraid that switching up will just annoy me.

Zsh: same reason.

cizra ,

BtrFS has Stuff.

  • Subvolumes, which enable you to share the same /home between Linux distros
  • Snapshots that are an great for
    • freezing the FS during off-machine backups: create a snapshot, rsync the snapshot not the main FS, drop the snapshot
    • transient backups. Will executing this thing hose my system? If no, drop the snapshot.
  • ability to pool different disks into a single FS
  • and so much more.

Fun story: once I needed to do something (resize? can’t recall) a partition that happened to be in use. The solution involved smbmounting a network disk, losetup helping transform that thing into a virtual disk, then migrating the root FS there, recreating partitions, all while running the rootfs on that thing. Thus, pooling can bu useful.

By the way, what does Zsh have over bash that you find useful?

danielquinn ,
@danielquinn@lemmy.ca avatar

Honestly, the only btrfs feature that interests me is the snapshotting, as the current state of my backups is rather sub-par. There’s just a lot of inertia involved in adopting it when ext4 Just Works™. Maybe next time I install a new system I’ll give it a shot.

As for zsh, I rather like the general “intelligence” I see on others’ machines: the way it autocorrects typos, draws a navigable menu for tab completions complete with colour highlighting… it looks lovely. I’ve been a Bash user for 25 years though, and muscle memory like smashing the tab key to get what I want is a hard habit to break.

FrederikNJS ,

Not OP , but regarding zsh, it has much better auto completion, and suggestion support. Additionally you can theme your prompt much more, see for example powerlevel10k

737 ,

zsh has vi mode

GenderNeutralBro ,

Perhaps you are a more discerning filesystem user than I am, but I don’t think I’ve actually noticed any difference on btrfs except that I can use snapshots and deduplication.

bsergay ,

Zsh

FWIW, the excellent ZSH Quickstart kit has been splendid for my transition.

danielquinn , (edited )
@danielquinn@lemmy.ca avatar

Actually, tutorials like that are a big reason that I don’t want to switch. The first steps are things like:

  • Install these fonts that only work in a GUI environment
  • Install these programs straight from GitHub without your package manager

…and all I hear is: “this stuff isn’t ready yet” and “I’m going to be staring at Unicode glyphs the next time I have to tinker outside of my GUI”.

If I can’t easily and securely install a shell on every environment I use as I don’t want to be constantly context switching, then I’m going to have to stick to Bash.

crater2150 ,

…and all I hear is: “this stuff isn’t ready yet” and “I’m going to be starring at Unicode glyphs the next time I have to tinker outside of my GUI”.

This really isn’t a zsh problem, but a “people putting too much stuff in a ‘getting started’ config”.

I used zsh for 15 years before looking at any plug-in manager, you can get a lot of the good stuff like the completion by just going through the first-run wizard included in zsh. A lot of stuff is included directly with zsh, including various prompt themes (which is what that tutorial wants extra fonts for, because they use a fancy prompt with custom glyphs; I don’t think any of the built-in ones need that)

Things like fuzzy history search with fzf is usually included with fzf’s distro package and the additional zsh-completions package for less used or newer commands is also packaged by most distros. In my experience, a lot of the other plugins are stuff that could be a standalone script instead of a plug-in anyway.

danielquinn ,
@danielquinn@lemmy.ca avatar

Well that’s much more encouraging. I may just give it a try if the first run wizard is simple enough. Thanks!

rutrum ,
@rutrum@lm.paradisus.day avatar

Niri looks really cool. I’ve used tiling WM before but scrolling is a unique take, perhaps more productive for some folks?

Nushell is a good one. I do data science for a living and it’d be nice to have the shell handle some small data transformations instead of writing a script in python. But all the syntax and behavior is very different than bash, so I’ve been afraid to start because of the learning curve.

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