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Today I'm grateful I'm using Linux - Global IT issues caused by Crowdstrike update causes BSOD on Windows

This isn’t a gloat post. In fact, I was completely oblivious to this massive outage until I tried to check my bank balance and it wouldn’t log in.

Apparently Visa Paywave, banks, some TV networks, EFTPOS, etc. have gone down. Flights have had to be cancelled as some airlines systems have also gone down. Gas stations and public transport systems inoperable. As well as numerous Windows systems and Microsoft services affected. (At least according to one of my local MSMs.)

Seems insane to me that one company’s messed up update could cause so much global disruption and so many systems gone down :/ This is exactly why centralisation of services and large corporations gobbling up smaller companies and becoming behemoth services is so dangerous.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We’re all going to be so smug.

nickiam2 , (edited )

I work in hospitality and our systems are completely down. No POS, no card processing, no reservations, we’re completely f’ked.

Our only saving grace is the fact that we are in a remote location and we have power outages frequently. So operating without a POS is semi-normal for us.

axzxc1236 ,

I am born too late to understand what Y2K problem was, this might be what people thought could happen.

cannedtuna ,

Kinda I guess. It was about clocks rolling over from 1999 to 2000 and causing a buffer overflow that would supposedly crash all systems everywhere causing the country to come to a hault.

Hildegarde ,

Most old systems used two digits for years. The year would go from 99 to 0. Any software doing a date comparison will get a garbage result. If a task needs to be run every 5 minutes, what will the software do if that task was last run 99 years from now? It will not work properly.

Governments and businesses spent lots of money and time patching critical systems to handle the date change. The media made a circus out of it, but when the year rolled over, everything was fine.

cannedtuna ,

We also got the worst version of Windows ever, ME. Tho maybe with all the BS they’ve done with 11 that might change.

zod000 ,

I’m not sure I’d stick to calling it the worst version “ever” since MS is trying really hard to out do themselves.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I’d use ME before the adware that is the current version. It wasn’t that bad, it was just Win98 with some visual slop on top that crashed slightly more often.

Aceticon ,

Also a lot of people were “on call” to handle any problems when the year changed, so the few problem that had passed unnoticed when doing the fixed and did pop up when the year changed, got solved a lot faster than they normally would.

caseyweederman ,

And it was okay because a lot of people worked really really hard to make it be okay.

caseyweederman ,

Y2K was going to be the end of civilisation. This was basically done by the time I woke up today.

HumanPenguin , (edited )
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

Yep pretty much but on a larger scale.

1st please do not believe the bull that there was no problem. Many folks like me were paid to fix it before it was an issue. So other than a few companies, few saw the result, not because it did not exist. But because we were warned. People make jokes about the over panic. But if that had not happened, it would hav been years to fix, not days. Because without the panic, most corporations would have ignored it. Honestly, the panic scared shareholders. So boards of directors had to get experts to confirm the systems were compliant. And so much dependent crap was found running it was insane.

But the exaggerations of planes falling out of the sky etc. Was also bull. Most systems would have failed but BSOD would be rare, but code would crash and some works with errors shutting it down cleanly, some undiscovered until a short while later. As accounting or other errors showed up.

As other have said. The issue was that since the 1960s, computers were set up to treat years as 2 digits. So had no expectation to handle 2000 other than assume it was 1900. While from the early 90s most systems were built with ways to adapt to it. Not all were, as many were only developing top layer stuff. And many libraries etc had not been checked for this issue. Huge amounts of the infra of the world’s IT ran on legacy systems. Especially in the financial sector where I worked at the time.

The internet was a fairly new thing. So often stuff had been running for decades with no one needing to change it. Or having any real knowledge of how it was coded. So folks like me were forced to hunt through code or often replace systems that were badly documented or more often not at all.

A lot of modern software development practices grew out of discovering what a fucking mess can grow if people accept an “if it ain’t broke, don’t touch it” mentality.

sep ,

Was there patching systems and testing they survived the rollover months before it happened.
One software managed the rollover. But failed the year after. They had quickly coded in an explicit exception for 00. But then promptly forgot to fix it properly!.

Tenkard ,

I would be too, except Firefox just started crashing on Wayland all the morning D;

isolatedscotch ,

after reading all the comments I still have no idea what the hell crowdstrike is

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Seems to be some sort of kernel-embedded threat detection system. Which is why it was able to easily fuck the OS. It was running in the most trusted space.

Ok_imagination ,

AV, EDP they offer other solutions as well. I think their main selling point is tamper-proof protection as well.

Restaldt ,

Hopefully this will be the straw that breaks this dead camels back.

Microsoft should get buried after this

Nighed ,
@Nighed@feddit.uk avatar

It’s not a Microsoft problem

gentooer ,

It’s a world-depending-on-a-few-large-companies problem

Swarfega ,

I’ve just spent the past 6 hours booting into safe mode and deleting crowd strike files on servers.

beeng ,

This is exactly why centralisation of services and large corporations gobbling up smaller companies and becoming behemoth services is so dangerous.

Its true, but otherside of same coin is that with too much solo implementation you lose benefits of economy of scale.

But indeed the world seems like a village today.

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