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SUSE Requests openSUSE to Rebrand

cross-posted from: lemm.ee/post/37281970

Believe it or not, an unexpected conflict has arisen in the openSUSE community with its long-time supporter and namesake, the SUSE company.

At the heart of this tension lies a quiet request that has stirred not-so-quiet ripples across the open source landscape: SUSE has formally asked openSUSE to discontinue using its brand name.

Richard Brown, a key figure within the openSUSE project, shared insights into the discussions that have unfolded behind closed doors.

Despite SUSE’s request’s calm and respectful tone, the implications of not meeting it could be far-reaching, threatening the symbiotic relationship that has benefited both entities over the years.

Mango ,

TIL SUSE exists and wouldn’t have found out if not for OpenSUSE and this news. It’s kinda weird to open their website and see this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8f704d1c-9d0b-47ab-853a-941807fc66e3.jpeg

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

SUSE is such a stupid name. Like, it is stupid to say in German.

Just rename it SUSGeckoOS

m4m4m4m4 ,

If GeckOS isn’t already taken, it could be kinda cool.

lawrence ,

Why Geck ?

thayer ,

A gecko is a lizard, so it’s in keeping with SUSE’s chameleon theme. Maybe a little too similar for corporate.

I think Komodo Linux, or KomodOS are good options too, but I can’t recall if they were already used for a distro.

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

Komodo (last update 2006)

NauticalNoodle ,

Yeah it is

Zink ,

As opposed to G.E.C.K. OS.

TheyCallMeHacked ,

I don’t know what’s stupid to say about Gesellschaft für Software und Systementwicklung mit beschränkter Haftung

UnfortunateShort ,

They are the second largest “Linux company” by revenue after Red Hat iirc

owiseedoubleyou ,
@owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s SUSSY Linux time

space_comrade ,

OpenBUSSY

pbjamm ,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

or Sussie

M68040 ,
@M68040@hexbear.net avatar

Rocky Linux 2

mosiacmango ,

Rocky Rocky Linux

Rocky^2 linux for short

HubertManne ,

wow. I had a good opinion of suse up to this point. what a silly request after all these years.

banazir OP , (edited )
@banazir@lemmy.ml avatar

Corporate backing is a two-edged sword, unfortunately.

visor841 ,

From my own looking into this it looks like more of a suggestion than a request (for now at least), just a “this might be a good idea, we should look into it”.

HubertManne ,

I just don't get what they are thinking. opensuse is basically free advertising for them.

Petter1 ,

Yea, I only know suse from opensuse and of my company ever needs Linux support, I would go to suse because I know it from openSuse…

And I would love to work for suse because I had such a good experience with openSuse

I think a name change would be pretty dump…

HubertManne ,

this is how I feel. If I am involved in work decisions I will recommend the enterprise version because the support just makes sense and is incredibly cheap vs most software. It actually took me awhile to understand the whole fedora, centos, redhat connection.

ozymandias117 , (edited )

It’s a strange suggestion after very recently working closely with openSUSE to ensure Leap can use the same binaries as SLE, though

monobot ,

Strange is using and marketing someone else’s name without written permission.

Why do you think linux distros and free software have such strange names? To avoid stepping on someone toes without expensive trademark research.

Kory ,
@Kory@lemmy.ml avatar

A bad time to install Tumbleweed? I just downloaded the ISO today, not kidding.

possiblylinux127 ,

I don’t personally care for anything suse based. I find that rhel like is more stable and easier to work with

fossphi ,

It’s as a good time as any. I would just install and use it. Name change or not, it shouldn’t affect your usage. Don’t worry

JackbyDev ,

This won’t affect anything major, you’re fine.

Corgana ,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Honestly, for a good distro, the brand is not great. Perhaps this can be viewed good opportunity to go with something more unique!

Telorand ,

Name it UnownOS. The other variants like MicroOS and Leap all have logos that look like Unowns.

I’m sure Nintendo wouldn’t mind. Their lawyers are known to be pretty chill…

HumanPenguin ,
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

If the just called it other.

It would gain a huge boost in desktop usage figures.

radivojevic ,

Just change the name. It’s not a big deal. SUSE is a stupid name anyway.

CrabAndBroom ,

I think it’s one of those things that will become a bigger deal indirectly because of all the knock-on effects. Like the branding, they’ll have to have the logos all redesigned, the domain name will have to change, it’ll mess up a lot of troubleshooting when people google the old name etc.

sparkle ,

I agree but it could be worse (Pop!_OS)

UnfortunateShort ,

All people named Susanne: 😐

WeAreAllOne ,

OpenSusame

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

Sosumi

JackbyDev ,

open sesame

Dungrad ,
@Dungrad@feddit.org avatar

Zuse Linux

thayer ,

Off the top of my head…

  • Gecko or GeckOS
  • LizOS
  • ReptilOS
  • ChamelOS
  • KomodOS
Suppoze ,
@Suppoze@beehaw.org avatar

Ooooh, I love GeckOS, rolls off the tongue silky smooth. Maybe this is just a great opportunity to rebrand (again)

NauticalNoodle ,

GeckOS is already taken. It’s a 6502 unix-like operating system

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

Gecko (is already an openSUSE spin)

bane_killgrind ,

Midlizard

floofloof , (edited )

That must be annoying just after OpenSUSE went through a branding redesign process. I guess they’ll have to give up the gecko logo since SUSE also uses it?

And there’s more at stake than a rebranding it seems. This could signal SUSE withdrawing development support from OpenSUSE:

Let’s face it: SUSE has been more than just a namesake for openSUSE; it has actively provided resources and support far beyond what it would ordinarily need for its business operations.

This generosity has fostered a thriving openSUSE project that has excelled under SUSE’s goodwill and informal support, including contributions made by SUSE employees on company time.

However, the recent request for a branding separation has overshadowed this partnership. If openSUSE does not handle this request with the sensitivity and cooperation it demands, the project risks not just a reduction in support from SUSE but a potential shift in priorities away from it.

The “Factory first” policy, a cornerstone of the engineering synergy between SUSE and openSUSE, could also be scrutinized, emphasizing the gravity of the current situation.

milicent_bystandr ,

That quote sounds uncomfortably like a grudge on SUSE Enterprise’s part.

floofloof ,

It’s a quote from the article, not a statement by SUSE.

milicent_bystandr ,

Okay, that’s better.

eldavi ,

This could signal SUSE withdrawing development support from OpenSUSE

i had a similar thought; feels like the centos/redhat episode we had a couple years ago.

laughterlaughter ,

Heh. “A couple of years ago.”

mobilehugh ,
@mobilehugh@lemmy.ca avatar

If GeckOS doesn’t work out… SUSEbanthony, LazySUSE, SUSEsarandon, DrSUSE, uSUSEalsuspects, OkcanSUSE (must be sung)…

JackbyDev ,

Those all use SUSE though lol

soundconjurer ,

@JackbyDev @mobilehugh why not just ChamleOS?

ArcaneSlime ,

That sounds like the worst cereal lol.

tehbilly ,

legallyDistinctOpenSUSE

brayd ,
@brayd@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The request was respectful and SUSEs support on OpenSUSE is very helping the project so I’d personally be fine with fulfilling that request

Samueru ,

Introducing openSUSA

Stupidmanager ,

That is the phonetic spelling of how you’re supposed to say SUSE. It’s. SUSAhhh, like appaloosa. I know this because I watch that goofy video on youtube.

wasabi ,

Since SUSE has its roots in Germany (it stands for Software und Systementwicklung) I think the German pronunciation would be correct which is a little different. Both S are soft and the E is short. Like “Zoos” + “Eh”.

Ephera ,

Yeah, I’m not sure what their thinking with these pronunciation videos is. In the last frame of the video, they even show the phonetic pronunciation with a schwa, which is certainly not how the guy pronounces it.

We do also have an actual word “Suse” in German, which has a documented pronunciation: www.dwds.de/wb/Suse

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