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MigratingtoLemmy ,

POSIX on servers, thinking of switching to POSIX on desktop but that’s a bit awkward

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Bash

brenticus ,

Honestly? Bash. I tried a bunch a few years back and eventually settled back on bash.

Fish was really nice in a lot of ways, but the incompatibilities with normal POSIX workflows threw me off regularly. The tradeoff ended up with me moving off of it.

I liked the extensibility of zsh, except that I found it would get slow with only a few bits from ohmyzsh installed. My terminal did cool things but too slowly for me to find it acceptable.

Dash was the opposite, too feature light for me to be able to use efficiently. It didn’t even have tab completion. I suffered that week.

Bash sits in a middle ground of usability, performance, and extensibility that just works for me. It has enough features to work well out of the box, I can add enough in my bashrc to ease some workflows for myself, and it’s basically instantaneous when I open a terminal or run simple commands.

markstos ,

Fish has continued to add bash compat over time.

piexil ,

while I still use ohmyzsh, a lot of it’s opponents make it’s slowness one of its complaints. You don’t need ohmyzsh to have fancy things, it’s just makes setting it all up a little easier.

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

zsh

sntx ,

Nushell

laurelraven ,

PowerShell, with zsh being a close second

moreeni ,

Feeling risky today, eh? Mind sharing the reasoning behind your extravagant choice?

laurelraven ,

Not sure what’s extravagant about it… Fully object oriented pipeline in a scripting language built on and with access to the .NET type class system is insanely powerful. Having to manipulate and parse string output to extract data from command results in other shells just feels very cumbersome and antiquated, and relies on the text output to remain consistent to not break

PowerShell, it doesn’t matter if more or less data is returned, as long as the properties you’re using stay the same your script will not break

Filtering is super easy

The Verb-Noun cmdlet naming convention gets a lot of (undeserved) hate, but it makes command discovery way easier. Especially when you learn that there’s a list of approved verbs with defined meanings, and cmdlets with matching nouns tend to work together.

It actually follows the Unix philosophy of each cmdlet doing one thing (though sometimes a cmdlet winds up getting overloaded, but more often than not that’s a community or privately written cmdlet)

It’s easily powerful enough to write programs with (and I have)

And it works well with C#, and if you know some C#, PowerShell’s eccentricities start to make way more sense

Also, I mainly manage Windows servers for work running in an AD domain, so it’s absolutely the language of choice for that, but I’ve been using it for probably close to 14 years now and I can basically write it as easily as English at this point

recarsion ,

Zsh with powerlevel10k + a few plugins

rotopenguin ,
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Fish for an interactive shell, and I’ll often drop back to bash for writing a script. I can never remember how to do basic program flow in fish. Bash scripting is not great, but you can always find an example to remind you of how it goes.

surrealpartisan ,
@surrealpartisan@lemmy.world avatar

Xonsh. For basic use (running CLI programs with arguments) it works like any other shell, and for other uses it has nice Python syntax (and libraries!). For example, I like not needing a separate calculator program, as I can do maths directly in the shell with an intuitive syntax.

gianni ,

I have customized ZSH to be very similar to Fish

ikidd ,
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While fish is easy to set up, I can’t even be arsed to do that most times, so bash ends up being the one I use most.

ReluctantMuskrat ,

I know I’m a heretic but I’m a huge powershell fan. Once you work with an object-oriented shell you’ll wonder why you’ve dealt with parsing text for so long. Works great on Linux, MacOS and Windows, it’s open source, reads and writes csv, json and xml natively, native web and rest service support, built-in support for remote computing and parallel processing and extensive libraries for just about anything you can think of. It takes a little getting used to but it’s worth it.

SnotFlickerman ,
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Telorand ,

TBH, I use Powershell on my Windows install, and they’ve made some good improvements over the years. I forget that it also works on Linux.

Shame v1.0 ships with new installations, and you have to manually go out and install the latest versions to get the benefits. Dunno why MS doesn’t just automatically update it with everything else.

ReluctantMuskrat ,

Version 2 came with Windows 7. Version 5 comes with Windows 10 (and I think 11). V7 is the latest but being cross-platform doesn’t come with some of the Windows-specific modules built into v5.

laurelraven ,

V1 never actually shipped with any version of Windows

Windows 7 shipped with V2, 8 with V3, 8.1 with v4, and 10 with v5 and later 5.1.

5.1 is the latest (and last) version of Windows PowerShell.

All versions after that are just PowerShell (or PowerShell Core for version 6)

Not sure why they don’t bundle it by default, but starting at v7.2 it can be updated by Windows update

tankplanker ,

I use powershell by default on windows and I prefer it for scripting any day of the week vs. shell scripts. It’s not the fastest but you can always plug in .net to your scripts to dramatically improve performance. Sure, I could write the script in rust or whatever to make it even faster, but that’s way more work than I need for the lifespan of the script.

poinck ,

Even on Windows I try to avoid Powershell. I use bash through GitBash there, too. But, I don’t mind using Powershell for work, because some workflows are already implemented in ps1-scripts.

lengau ,

Bash

Not because it’s the best or even my favourite. Just because I create so many ephemeral VMs and containers that code switching isn’t worth it for me.

smeg ,

Exactly, I choose the one that’s always there on every machine I access!

Technus ,

Seconded. Having an awesome Fish setup doesn’t help at all when you’re constantly having to shell into other machines unless you somehow keep your dotfiles synced, and that sounds like a total hassle.

I’d rather my muscle memory be optimized for the standard setup.

Toribor ,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

I use Ansible playbooks to keep my config in sync. It’s great but there is a bit of a learning curve. Makes it easy to deploy config changes.

Toribor ,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

Zsh on workstations. Bash on servers.

send_me_your_mommy_milkers ,
@send_me_your_mommy_milkers@lemmy.world avatar

xterm+zsh

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