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sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

So Kaspersky are starting to make Linux viruses then?

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

malware for linux system exists. maybe you’re just ignorant of it.

KISSmyOSFeddit ,

Kaspersky itself is malware.

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

Ever heard of Microsoft?

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

How is Microsoft related to a tool to scan Linux for malware?

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

Microsoft is a Malware itself.

ReakDuck ,

Ok cool…

Apples grow on trees.

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a fact.

30p87 ,

That does not oppose Kaspersky being malware in any way … so what’s the point of noting Microsoft?

69420 ,

So much whoooosh

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

OP, you are fighting racists. There is no victory against brainwormed agenda parrots that do not care about merit.

Vendetta9076 ,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Okay I gotta know how the hell you got from A to B. Where is the racism in any of this?

possiblylinux127 ,

Yes, and they have similar issues

corsicanguppy ,

Wer’re aware of it, comrade.

Gasoline is not the solution to a small fire.

onlinepersona ,

Corsica represent!

Anti Commercial-AI license

mundane ,

No thanks

boredsquirrel ,

This is very cool! Is it FOSS though? Kaspersky is doing good stuff, but I Antivirus is also problematic, and has like all the privileges you can get

boredsquirrel ,

I HIGHLY doubt that they would detect the XZ backdoor

69420 , 

<span style="color:#323232;">xz --version
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boredsquirrel ,

https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZavRegFfujhS00ezVb/200w.webp?cid=6c09b95226i9v5wt8upkv4bxvvx8x3jdq6egipf02k4917v0&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.webp&ct=g

far_university1990 ,

Böhmermann in freier Wildbahn gesichtet

boredsquirrel ,

War auch überrascht

atzanteol ,

Why? It’s not hard. They typically hash files and look for hits against a database of known vulnerabilities.

boredsquirrel ,

Yes and if viruses use something like base64 encoding or other methods, the hashes dont match anymore.

As far as I understood it, it is pretty easy to make your virus permanently un-hashable by just always changing some bits

atzanteol ,

The xz backdoor was a packaged file distributed with the standard packages though. It would be trivial to find.

boredsquirrel ,

This is obviously not about this known file.

It is about “would this scanner detect a system package from the official repos opening an ssh connection”

atzanteol ,

Sorry, I was responding to:

I HIGHLY doubt that they would detect the XZ backdoor

possiblylinux127 ,

That doesn’t work against polymorphic malware

I think the best way is to monitor calls and behavior. Doing that is a privacy nightmare

atzanteol ,

Who’s talking about polymorphic malware? We were talking about the xz backdoor.

possiblylinux127 ,

Oh well in that case there is no chance

possiblylinux127 , (edited )

Even if it did, what would you do? rm -rf /?

XZ is part of the core system

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

10-foot pole ---------------- Kaspersky

slazer2au ,

So they have made a Linux antivirus?

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

ClamAV is the OG

vlnst ,

@0nekoneko7 😢

Kornblumenratte ,

AFAIK, clamAV hunts Window viruses, not Linux malware. The linux equivalent I know of is rkhunter.

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9c9fc559-9fb4-476e-b82e-d1f6ba46e2bc.gif

possiblylinux127 , (edited )

There are plenty if Linux end point protection tools. However, I think the best protection is security patching.

For personal use I don’t think there is any good malware detection tools. I think you just need to harden your browser and not install random packages from online. Best if you stick with distro repos only.

fschaupp ,
@fschaupp@lemmy.ml avatar

Really? I just found enterprise grade e.g. server security tools. Most sites I found were ourdated, where the Linux EndpointSecurity tools were discontinued (even tho the server tools would probably as good as EndpointSecurity)

possiblylinux127 ,

I am talking about enterprise grade

Norodix ,

Does it find itself?

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Does western software find itself?

possiblylinux127 ,

It just removes itself along with Nvidia, Realtek and Broadcom

MrPoopyButthole ,
@MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world avatar

How much are they paying you?

0nekoneko7 OP ,
@0nekoneko7@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7d75af7a-4ee6-4295-9aed-41c0233774e1.gif

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

To mention anything remotely associated with Russia is to be a paid Putler puppet; a lot of people are saying. See you at Tolstoy & the Dostoevsky book burning.

chocosoldier ,

oh look another troll dragging geopolitical culture war bullshit into everything

biribiri11 ,

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    CrabAndBroom ,

    It’s an older interview, but I like to bring this up whenever Kaspersky comes up as a topic:

    If you had the power to change up to three things in the world today that are related to IT security, what would they be?

    Internet design–that’s enough.

    That’s it? What’s wrong with the design of the Internet?

    There’s anonymity. Everyone should and must have an identification, or Internet passport. The Internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the U.S. military. That was just a limited group of people–hundreds, or maybe thousands. Then it was introduced to the public and it was wrong…to introduce it in the same way.

    Adanisi ,
    @Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

    Fuck that.

    Shadowedcross ,

    Yeah, I sure as shit wouldn’t use the internet if it wasn’t anonymous, seems like a weird thing to want when people are more concerned for their privacy than ever before.

    Allero ,

    Kaspersky actually has a good track record of NOT being anything malicious (Except for old times when it seemed to flag pirate software quite often).

    However, if the tool is closed-source, this is naturally against Linux ethos and is generally something to avoid, given extensive permissions.

    fschaupp ,
    @fschaupp@lemmy.ml avatar

    Well, on the other side I have Steam and most of the games there are closed source… Yes they run in user mode and (usually) don’t have kernel level access.

    Allero ,

    Yes, kernel level access is what makes it a much bigger deal.

    possiblylinux127 ,

    I don’t like that either

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    I’m not sure I’d give Russian software root access to my systems.

    far_university1990 ,

    What about 7zip?

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    I don’t give 7zip admin access to my system.

    KingThrillgore ,
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    They actually had a good track record but I think a FSB stooge took a board position and at that point…

    ssm ,
    @ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Support ClamAV instead of this trash

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    ClamAV is so bad, Windows Defender is twice as good. FOSS zealots are too blind.

    ssm , (edited )
    @ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    “ClamAV is bad so instead of improving it I’m going to cuck to proprietary standards instead”

    I never said ClamAV was good or bad, nor was that the point.

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’m going to cuck to proprietary standards

    Open source will never compete with Kaspersky in security field. Security field requires extreme levels of meritocracy and a disposal of capital infrastructure as and when needed. The latter is beyond lacking in open source ecosystem, and will always be lacking. The former is also far from the level field at which Kaspersky plays.

    If you do not understand this, you have failed digital security already. Lying to yourself is never going to solve problems.

    BaroqueInMind ,

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    corsicanguppy ,

    My entire career is one counterexample to this after another. It’s not that I’ve seen different; I’ve only seen different.

    Now go fud someone else if you want your weekly bonus, comrade.

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

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    corsicanguppy ,

    Was that what got my comment removed?

    My entire career is one counterexample to this after another. It’s not that I’ve seen different; I’ve only seen different.

    Or that?

    Now go fud someone else if you want your weekly bonus, comrade.

    It reminds me of a joke that ends in “I don’t know, and I don’t care”, but the setup seems so much more relevant.

    possiblylinux127 ,

    It isn’t terribly good

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    The amount of xenophobic racists in this thread are revealing themselves. Thank you OP. It proves they will disregard merit for supporting English fascism.

    laurelraven ,

    I’m sure I’m going to regret asking this, but how is not liking Kaspersky, in and of itself, racist or xenophobic?

    dRLY ,
    @dRLY@lemmy.ml avatar

    It is because so many people see a Russian security company and just go on and on about “Russian company? they can’t be trusted!” While they act like US companies/government is somehow trustworthy by default (or at least by the omission of only dunking on the “always evil” vibes of anything Russian). Russia is very up front about their laws and their opinions of how they do or want to do. While US companies and the US gov love to also push that narrative hard and loud all the time.

    They go on and on about “privacy” being like the most crucial thing ever. But they are also the very same fucks that have and actively at this moment find every way to just vacuum up all of our information, chats, searches, etc… And even when we get proof beyond proof that the US gov and private companies are doing this on their own or colluding. It is somehow the Russian companies (or insert whichever country) that are somehow more “evil” for doing shit.

    Hell, the US is constantly spying on and inside our own allies. I really don’t see why our allies would freak out about shit like Chinese cell technology. But they are tripping over themselves to willingly build complete infrastructure with shit that the US gov most certainly has backdoors to backdoors inside. It isn’t about Russian companies being more or less trustworthy. But it is dumb as fuck to act like they are somehow worse than US companies with gov contracts. I am honestly more worried about what my own gov is doing to me than shit other nations companies might be doing. Do I want other nations companies having access to my shit? Fuck no, but acting like they are actively more a threat to spying on me as a US citizen than the profit chasing companies Enshittifying everything with adware/spyware. AND knowing that my own tax dollars are also being paid to them to give my gov access to it and me is stupid.

    possiblylinux127 ,

    I don’t normally say this but maybe its time to go outside. I haven’t found any Xenophobic or racist comments. Maybe they were removed or something.

    beefbot ,

    The amount of disinformation bots or actors on any thread anywhere— despite what blamethrowing you might see in any direction — is incalculable. Trust no comment!

    jjlinux ,

    Yay, let’s install Spyware on our Linux computers 👌

    palarith ,

    Does it scan for Kaspersky?

    foremanguy92_ ,

    First is it open source, and why do they made a such tool? 😂

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