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KDE Goes and Does It (Double-Click By Default, That Is) - OMG! Linux

  • KDE Plasma 6 will require users to double-click on files and folders to open them by default.
  • This change is controversial for those familiar with single-click behavior in KDE Plasma.
  • Click behavior in KDE Plasma 6 is configurable, allowing users to choose between single-click and double-click.

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This is one of the first things I always tweak in KDE, so I love this change, but I’m curious how others feel.

kawa ,
@kawa@reddeet.com avatar

Normal people won

Kusimulkku ,

I really like single click but since this is just about the new default then I don’t really care

gnuplusmatt ,

No one wins no matter what they choose. Those of us who have switched over to single click either now need to adapt or make the tweak.

I guess this a good default for bringing over Windows converts

Kusimulkku ,

Unless they’re overwriting our settings to defaults we really don’t need to do anything. This is for new installs.

LainTrain ,

Double click to open files/folders Single click to highlight file/folders Hover to focus on window

Perfection

Zangoose ,

Ok but when do we get to change the drag and drop behavior so it just moves the folder instead of opening a menu

ricdeh ,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Please do not change that, I love being able to copy via drag and drop instead of just moving because this way, my clipboard is not polluted unnecessarily

Zangoose ,

I’m fine with a menu being there, just give me the option to make it go away by selecting a default or something.

That single problem makes dolphin unusable for me because there isn’t a basic setting to make it behave like basically every other graphical file manager on any operating system.

(Edited grammar for clarity)

debil ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fd472dea-a93e-42d2-a9a8-f454ebfd7d8b.jpeg

This is wholesome in a strange way.

highduc ,

This truely is the darkest timeline

Pantherina ,

For all those single-click fans:

  • how do you quickly rename a file?
  • how do you even drag-drop instead of opening stuff?
  • how do you select files?
  • how do you live?

Saying “well kids use web stuff and Android and dont know what a single click is” is basically neglecting the use of a mouse. I love at least 3 buttons, hovering and fast clicks.

Jomosoto ,
  • Ctrl + Click, F2
  • Just drag and drop the file
  • Ctrl + Click

I prefer single click, but I agree that there are situations where double click is more convenient

Pantherina ,

That sounds way worse than double click haha. I have set F2 to Volume (the rest is the normal F keys)

optissima ,
@optissima@lemmy.world avatar

Volume what? Mute?

Pantherina ,

Dont know, I think F1 F2 are up and down, F3 is normal again and would be mute.

I am weird and didnt like sticky Fn keys like it is preconfigured on Thinkpads

Drito ,

I don’t use KDE but I suppose the click is detected on button release, not during the press. It should adress all these questions.

Pantherina ,

This is the only way that makes sense.

cygon ,

Q1: Select (see Q3) + F2

Q2: Same way as double-click people. A file only opens if I click, not when I press the mouse button and drag the file around.

Q3: I draw a small selection frame over it, or press the control key when clicking (I have the hand there any, especially if my next input will be Ctrl+C/X and Ctrl+V

Q4: I just do. Sometimes I relax by playing shooters with the “invert mouse” option turned on :D

I have never had a cell phone or smart phone in my life, single-click was the default when I switched to Linux, I gave it a try and I liked it.

bufalo1973 ,
@bufalo1973@lemmy.ml avatar

Select: click on the + sign.

westyvw ,

Single click is so much better. Vastly superior.

How do I live? Without carpal tunnel.

Pantherina ,

Okay okay I give it a try

huskypenguin ,

Same, but I use double click. Send like single click is a lot of mouse dragging.

westyvw ,

Nope, not really. If you have a list of files you single click on the name, not the icon. That selects it. No dragging.

Kusimulkku ,
  • F2
  • Click and hold
  • Many ways, usually I just drag a box around the files. If there’s many in different places, ctrl + click
  • More convenient without having to double click everything lol
CrabAndBroom ,

I never thought I’d see the day

GunnarGrop ,

A day of sorrow indeed… No, joking aside. I gather most people use double click anyway, so this is a good change for that reason. I’ve never really understood it myself (the primary function of the left click being “select” when everywhere else it’s “open” or “go to this thing”?? Alien stuff).

I’m just glad KDE listens to it’s users and adapts to them. Looking forward to the release!

Pantherina ,

Its only open on things not meant for file management like web browsers, or when people use their monkey extensions as input device, instead of a mouse with 3 buttons and a scroll wheel ;D

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

At least, like everything else in KDE, you can set it the way you like it (unlike some other environments that will remain nameless).

knolord ,

I personally also welcome this change, as I have changed that setting anyway and of those people I know, they also changed that behaviour immediately. But as long as you can change it and it isn’t forced on you to only use one method, it’s great.

CrabAndBroom ,

Single-click and the little plus icons on everything in Dolphin are the first things I switch off after install for sure.

Drewski ,

That and the bouncing icons when an app is loading... always thought that looked tacky.

Kusimulkku ,

I love the bouncy icon

Kusimulkku ,

Girlfriend went from KDE to Windows and switched File Explorer to single click hah

BreakDecks ,

I honestly forgot that single-click is the default behavior in Plasma. I set up new desktop environments so rarely, and this is such an infuriating default behavior that I change it immediately. Glad to hear this is changing.

Pantherina ,

Main reason is Distros reverting that anyways. It was always doubleclick on Kubuntu and Fedora KDE afaik

fxt_ryknow ,

See… I’m the opposite… I change and hip around and reinstall across various machine so often, changing the setting has just become second nature… I don’t even think about it anymore! Hahahaha

Matty_r ,
@Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

I’ve been using my install script for so long, I’ve forgotten that single click was the default. I guess that’s at least one extra line I can remove.

Hupf ,

The Year of Linux on the Desktop has finally come guys.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I’m actually kinda suspicious any Linux user would actually want a single click default.

iopq ,

I don’t know how requiring clocking twice instead of once is good

woodgen ,

How do you select files? Probably double click?

deliriousn0mad ,

No, there are those big plus signs appearing on the top-right corner of the icon, if you click there it selects instead of opening. I guess it’s a matter of habit, I can’t get used to it

rufus ,

Or you drag over the files. Or press something like Strg or Shift while clicking. I mean you have to do that anyways, even with double-click per default or you’d lose focus on the first file. And it’s rarely the case that you just want to focus a single file.

Deckweiss ,

I have an extra button on my mouse that double clicks on press.

So I am extremely used to single clicking to see the extra info at the bottom. Aiming or dragging is extra work for me.

rufus , (edited )

Ah okay, I can see that being useful. Seems we have a different workflow. I rarely look at that extra info at the bottom. Usually just to see how many files I selected and their total size. If I’m concerned with single files, I either don’t care for the size and extra info, or I switch to the list view and have it displayed next to each file if I’m organizing stuff. I’ll also sort them by size or whatever in that case. But I’m not concerned with the exact file info while doing regular stuff. So I wouldn’t use that use-case for a single-click very often.

iopq ,

I drag a box around them or Ctrl+click

XTornado ,

Avoids misclicks from opening stuff by mistake just for that alone is worth it to me.

Darken ,
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    XTornado ,

    I meant misclicks like clicking by mistake, like you clicked the item while trying to click something else or simply clicking by mistake the physical button of the mouse… Maybe uncommon… true but when it happens that a folder or full app opens is annoying.

    iopq ,

    Oh, NixOS can’t open anything anyway

    AnUnusualRelic ,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s more wear and tear on mouse buttons! It’s wasteful!

    Blackmist ,

    It would only really make sense as a tablet behaviour.

    Kusimulkku ,

    Why would you be suspicious of that?

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