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tikitaki , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?
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i probably first got started with linux back when i was around 12 or 13. would make a bunch of usb flash drives and install a new distro every week or two

longest i'd go with one distro was like a month and then i'd make some stupid move and break my system and re-install again.

after a while i went back to windows and then in my early 20s i went back to linux. used arch linux for a bit but then tried fedora and have been using fedora for years

right now my main OS is macos because I have apple silicon but as soon as asahi is more mature i'm gonna switch over back to linux. i do have windows & fedora installation through parallels

mo_ztt_3 , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?
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I read The Jargon File before I touched much of anything aside from DOS, and I was hooked. My first starry-eyed actual experience with Unix was at my first programming job: On a Unix system writing C (neither of which I had ever used). They gave me and my coworker a single copy of Kernighan and Ritchie’s book and told us to get up to speed. The people assigned to us as mentors were more or less useless as far as figuring out how to do anything, so we struggled a lot. In the end we did okay.

We also an excellent computer science teacher who gave us an old SGI system to play with, which she said “fell off a truck.” It couldn’t really do much of anything interesting because we didn’t have any internet to connect it to and we already had compilers on our own more-capable computers by that point, but it was a super cool little artifact to have.

My first actual Linux experience was when downloading Mandrake when it came out, and starting to use it for my everyday personal computing. Multiple people saw that I had this super-weird science fiction computer and heard how I talked about it, tried to install Linux for themselves even when I told them they probably didn’t want to, and then suffered as a result because it wasn’t super capable (for normal computer tasks) or easy to use at that time in history.

For a while I lived in a big rented house with other young layabouts with my computer (Debian by that point) being totally inscrutable. E.g. it would bring up just a grub command line when booted, which you had to type the right super-cryptic commands into in order to boot the actual system. It was effectively alien technology to everyone else. It was also permanently hooked to an always-on boom box’s headphone jack and had a cron job to record Howard Stern every morning to a low-bitrate MP3, which was shared via Samba to the rest of the network, by request of my housemate so he could listen to Stern any time he wanted to.

It was great days. There were kings on the land, there was magic in the world. Aside from work environments, I used Linux pretty much exclusively from that point forward, up until the modern day when Chromebook+crostini and MacOS have become civilized environments to operate in.

567PrimeMover , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?
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Ubuntu was my first. I got a copy of 7.04 from the IT instructor at a local tech school during a field trip back in high school. I had no idea what linux was before then. I would boot the live cd on the family computer and mess around with it since I didn't have one of my own. I was finally able to get a hand-me-down windows 98 PC from my aunt and installed my copy of 7.04 on that right away. Got my dad to run some ethernet up to my room and I was living like royalty after that.

I've tried about every distro under the sun since those days, but Ubuntu always feels like home

Drusenija , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

Mine was back in 1999 courtesy of this:

…archive.org/…/TheLinuxPocketbookfrontCover.jpg

The Linux Pocketbook from APCMag, which included a full copy of Red Hat 5.2 (according to this image, I vaguely recall the copy I had had a slightly different cover so they might have updated it). Having it on CD was a big deal back when we still had dial up! I remember how daunting the command line was at that point - like I had grown up on DOS and then Win 3.11, but a full blown Unix system was not something I was used to at that point.

For some extra context, my PC at that stage was a Packard Bell desktop 😅

staticlifetime , in Mission Center: A rust clone of the Windows Task Manager
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This looks phenomenal-looking. That graph widget should be standardized too.

Sailor_jets , in Anyone else starting to favor Flatpak over native packages?
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I use Gentoo so when I want to try a package that has a butt ton of dependencies or other fun things I give it a whirl via flatpak if available. It’s super nice, not gonna lie, and I see the use case of immutable distros. I think they are neat.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

That is actually pretty cool. I know about portage, but I think it defeats the point of gentoo. Compiling from source is the point, right? That way the user gets all the speed benefits and optimization for their particular hardware.

Flatpaks are a great preview to see if the compiling is worth the time! Or a permanent solution for some software. I am happy that people don’t seem to have qualms about mixing software managers.

Sailor_jets ,
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The point of Gentoo is it’s configurability. Gentoo has binary packages in it’s main repo’s and even an experimental binhost for precompiled packages. Forcing one to use any one thing is against the Gentoo philosophy.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

That makes sense. Thank you for clarifying my misconception. I think I will set that up. I have a couple of Dell Optiplexes that are bumming it out right now. I can put one to work with Gentoo.

Sailor_jets ,
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Gentoo is pretty rad but be prepared for the compile times and to fail a few times (it’s a learning experience!). You could even speed things up by setting up Distcc on a beefy rig to build stuff for your optiplexes.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

Okay, that seems cool. I had not considered that a possibility. It would be fun to “stream” any compilations to the Optiplexes.

Sailor_jets ,
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Also one of the use cases for flatpaks I forgot to mention was for proprietary software like Steam, Spotify, and Discord. It makes installing those a breeze.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

That is probably the most important use case. It is good not to allow proprietary software to extend their tendrils beyond the sandbox.

anteaters , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

streetcomplete.app is a fun way to contribute to OSM and do something else instead of just “walking” if you want to get outside a bit.

klz ,
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This is what I use! It's like RPG quests in real life but about really boring subjects. Eg. What surface is the pavement on a nearby street. Or is there a bin next to this bus stop

netvor ,
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😵‍💫 can’t 😵‍💫 not 😵‍💫 upvote 😵‍💫

nix ,
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Do you know of a similar app for iOS?

anteaters ,

wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/StreetComplete recommends GoMap!! and some others. Maybe one of those is also great.

nix ,
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Thanks!

17451k ,

I’ve heard good things about this app: apps.apple.com/app/id1621945342

Marxine ,
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This is really neat and you just gave me my new hobby, thank you!

NoTime ,
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This is actually amazing. I’ve done a bit of editing as I play Pokémon Go which uses OSM for the background map. I got fed up of just looking at roads so I mapped in all the buildings, shops, parks etc near me.

This gamifies walking and exploring which I love!

lemann ,

☝️ How to mod games while touching grass, instead of touching code… chef’s kiss

Gmork ,
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This is seriously awesome! Thank you for suggesting this.

I have added a small amount of area around my city but this will make it much easier to fill in the gaps.

ray ,

Just to piggy back on here Every Door (every-door.app) is so awesome if you wanna add/update shops and other small points of interest on the go. Highly recommend it.

enoqe , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?
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My company actually partially sponsors an OpenStreetMap mapathon through our volunteering initiative. I’ve probably put in around 3 or 4 hours this year contributing to maps, though specifically developing countries with incomplete mapping and recent natural disasters.

AnonTwo , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

I think it was around 2014 and I tried Ubuntu 10 or 11. After using VM for a bit I tried it on my main PC with dual boot.

The problem I had was that steam wasn't ready at the time, let alone other games. Steam kept giving driver errors that required an obscure command to be run every time before booting and for some reason I couldn't get it to fix permanently.

Wine was wine. Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't

In the end I recall the DE crashing and then I gave up for a few years on it.

Still turned out to be a huge benefit at the time with the advent of USB boots. I remember saving my PC at one point when the Vista endless reboots occurred, because I was able to boot into Linux and reach my drive from there to remove the update.

edit: jeez it had to be way further back than that. I clearly remember the vista incident and using linux, but vista was in 2007.

drcobaltjedi , in why did you switch?

I haven’t switched. Not fully. Gaming is still far better on Windows. Yeah I have a steam deck amd the games that are supported run amazingly.

Anyway, I switched because as a software dev, Linux is such a better development enviroment. Getting a working C/C++ compiler working on windows without using VS is a huge pain, but most linux distros come with GCC preinstalled. Need to do Java? Just a command away.Rust? Ruby? Python? Same deal.

angrymouse , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

Im currently using streetcomplete, which is an app that gamifies the experience of fulfilling OSM gaps. It’s like playing pokemon go but you are hunting a street with isle. I found this recommendation here in lemmy so im passing forward, I loved it

Coeus OP ,

I just saw that and downloaded it. My struggle is telling the difference between asphalt and concrete.

Magnetar ,

Wait until you have to decide between gravel and compacted gravel.

But seriously, asphalt and concrete should be pretty obvious. Alphalt is darker and porous, gravel embedded into an almost gooey (when hot) substance. Concrete is flat, often in slabs next to each other, prone to cracking.

Positroni , (edited )
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Wiki has descriptions for the surface types, wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface gravel seems to be general term that includes compacted gravel, I had to look up difference between dirt, ground and unpaved without text descriptions from the wiki that would have been impossible.

InfiniteStruggle ,

My local Public works committee has a habit of digging up asphalt roads to do water supply pipe repairs, and then filling them up with the rubble when they’re done. What category would such a road some under?

Magnetar ,

Possibly something like


<span style="color:#323232;">surface=asphalt
</span><span style="color:#323232;">smoothness=intermediate  
</span>

But I’m really not sure. You might find information at wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface and/or wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness

kolorafa ,

Asphalt can be on top of concrete.

But From my experience concreet normally has a visible splits between segments every few meters and is almost always way lighter in color.

infrastructurenews.co.za/…/Concrete-roads.jpg

I’m not a specialist but to me, it is all about road quality, asfalt when you can safely drive and it’s very smooth ride like you drive in the air, while co concrete you can drive well but there are clearly visible or audible bumps, so for me the actual material (or mix of them) doesn’t matter, if they can make classy and safe to drive road with glass or anything else should not matter.

Coeus OP ,

I think I got it figured out. It’s pretty obvious when I compare them side by side.

OmniscientLarder , (edited )

That looks really fun, thanks for passing the recommendation on!

Thaurin , in Mission Center: A rust clone of the Windows Task Manager

Nice. I was using System Monitoring Center, but that’s based on Python and it uses a bit too much system resources, in my opinion. It’s pretty, though.

parallax , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

Mandrake… In the 90’s… I will never ever forget the pain of tulip

Gleddified , in why did you switch?

It was nothing to do with the positives of Linux, it was the negatives of Windows. If they hadn’t gone full spyware after Windows 7 I’d still be using Windows today

0xtero , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?
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Downloaded Slackware at univ lab and split it on endless amount of floppy disks.
This was probably in ..-93 or 94? .. or thereabouts. I was in my early 20s.
Went home and had to come back 3 times, because one floppy was always corrupted.

Then I tried to compile kernel for 24 hours and it just kept failing. . struggled with it for a week or so and got it running - then formatted the disc and started over. Ah good times.

Started using Linux "for real" after Debian 1.3 was released in -97 (I think?). Haven't really stopped using it.

grahamsz ,

Slackware was my first distro too, probably around 95 i think as I got a CDR copy from a friend in high school. It's certainly not been my daily driver for that whole period, but I think I've probably at least had a linux system operational for nearly 30 years.

I've been using Windows since maybe 92 and MacOS since 86. I think Solaris is the only other OS I've used a significant amount.

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