The keybinds you can set up in e.g Ranger for navigating or moving files are incredibly fast and easy. Sure you could just use shell commands/aliases etc. but the visual representation of the file system that a TUI provides, I find really useful.
One of the most common causes for SSH sessions hanging is a security group assigned to the instance has an incoming IP address whitelist. If the IP address you are connecting from doesn’t match, it won’t let you connect and silently hangs. Easiest way is to whitelist every IP address range but that’s not good practice.
It can also happen if the Security Group doesn’t allow access via standard port 22. In that case, you need to explicitly set your port when connecting.
Finally, if you’ve set up ‘password free’ SSH, make sure the keypair is valid and you haven’t messed up file access privs.
Suggest you try a process of elimination. Use the console SSH client to verify connection. See if that works. Then try the above steps to narrow it down on the client side.
Copyleft ensures that fixes, improvements, etc make it back into the main project. Permissive stuff allows capitalist behemoths to take your shit and run.
Adding to your reasons, I think copyleft is great because it prevents the code from being incorporated into proprietary anything. If you shitstains want to use my code while stripping the freedoms I intended it to have, fuck you!
“I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!”
You’re denying tomato’s important components. I would appreciate it if you called it “Tomato Sauce/GNU/Linux/Pasta” naturally Tomato should come first, and it sits on top of everything else, and in sheer amount of color, is more visible.
No, Richard, it’s ‘Linux’, not ‘GNU/Linux’. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation. Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ. One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS – more on this later). He named it ‘Linux’ with a little help from his friends. Why doesn’t he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff – including the software I wrote using GCC – and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don’t want to be known as a nag, do you? (An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title ‘GNU/Linux’ (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example. Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn’t the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you’ve heard this one before. Get used to it. You’ll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it. You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn’t more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn’t perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument. Last, I’d like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn’t be fighting among ourselves over naming other people’s software. But what the heck, I’m in a bad mood now. I think I’m feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn’t you and everyone refer to GCC as ‘the Linux compiler’? Or at least, ‘Linux GCC’? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD? If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this: Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux’ huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don’t be a nag. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply
I understand why Stallman wanted us to say GNU/Linux, because his organization needs money and wants its name out there, but that’s simply not how things get named in the real world.
First, GNU was always a mouthful. It’s always been intentionally pronounced differently from the animal. People prefer names that are not confusing and that don’t sound strange.
Second, we don’t do the same thing for other operating systems. If you’re an illustrator, you don’t say that you work on Adobe/Windows or whatever.
Third, GNU/Linux adds nothing interesting over simply “Linux”. And in fact, there have been distributions where they avoid GNU tooling due. Everybody still recognizes these as Linux.
I think there a bunch of mispronunciations. OP seems to be referring to the “new” mispronounciation, while I was referring to the spelling out mispronunciation.
I was contrasting it with the animal “gnu”, otherwise known as the wildebeest, which is pronounced more similar to the word “new”. I suspect more people know the animal gnu than know the organization GNU.
For your second point, do you say that you use Adobe or Windows?
Or how about if I said I made this cool image using Linux? More likely I’d say I used GIMP or ImageMagick or some specific command line tool.
Linux is just the kernel. It’s an amazing kernel, but it’s only half the story. The tools on top of it are just as important as the kernel. That’s the point of saying GNU/Linux is to call out the other half of the whole experience.
The reason GNU/Linux isn’t popular to say is that it doesn’t provide any real information. “I run Linux” and “I run GNU/Linux” doesn’t really tell you anything. “I run Debian”, “I run Fedora”, “I run Arch BTW”, those all tell you something different.
I can’t speak to the OS landscape when Linux was released. Maybe saying that you ran GNU/Minix or Bell/Unix or whatever combinations might have existed would have made sense. However at this point it doesn’t.
For your second point, do you say that you use Adobe or Windows?
I mean, you already know the answer to that. The point is that you don’t have to give the entire context of your computing environment every time you mention some product you use.
Linux is just the kernel.
It’s not only the kernel. It is also the name that people have settled on for differentiating the computer running the Linux kernel from a computer running Windows.
Agreed. Names don’t work that way. Should we just append any remotely relevant info to the name? “I use Arch/Systemd/Gnu/Linux-AMD 5 7700X, webcam connected, 2000 dpi mouse BTW”
In the uses section, it mentions Tux being shown at the top of the boot sequence for Gentoo.
It’s kinda funny because I’ve been using Gentoo for almost 4 years and never knew that there was one Tux per CPU core until I read this article. That’s fun!
Just thought it put out the same number on every system I guess, haha!
I just hope to one day be able to install MS Office 2021 and use older software under Wine without having to spend days patching and installing stuff. Is it too much to ask? Apparently it is.
That’s because Linux is meant to run Linux software… Wine should only be used as a last resort. When it comes to production software we should focus on improving our open alternatives and making them suitable for more users to migrate to our ecosystem, thus, creating demand for Adobe software or MS Office to be ported, or they might not even be needed by then
I need MS Office and Open/Libre/OnlyOffice won’t cut it. If ones lives in a bubble and doesn’t have to collaborate with others, then native Linux apps might work and you might even get a decent workflow but once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over. The “alternatives” aren’t just up to it.
Anyone who want a simple Virtual Machine and have to go thought cumbersome installation procedures like this one just to reach the end and have error messages saying virtualization isn’t enable when, in fact, it is… or trying to use GNOME Boxes and have a sub-par virtualization experience.
Even finding a decent and working FTP/SFTP/FTPS desktop client (similar WinSCP or Cyberduck) is an impossible task as there a few, but they all fail even at basic stuff like dragging and dropping a file.
Linux desktop is great, I love it but I don’t sugar coat. Windows licenses are cheap and you get things working out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’ll be productive from day zero. There are annoyances from time to time, sure, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience.
It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI.
But that’s why I said we should improve upon these alternatives tho, they are certainly not perfect and I never said they could replace Windows software currently
Today’s reality is that most people (aka everyone) depends on these proprietary piece of software that are not avaiable on Linux, Adobe’s and Microsoft’s being the main ones.
But I believe that by focusing on improving and showing people that these alternatives exists and can be useable would help them slowly migrate to our open platforms, maybe even making proprietary software be ported to Linux.
When it comes to production software, THATS what we need, native Linux apps, and WINE does not solve that issue, so seeing it as a possible solution for running your production software (like Office 2021) will unsurprisingly cause days of fixing your stuff, while native Linux apps on the other hand, GIMP, Libreoffice, Inkscape, all work out of the box
When it comes to production software, THATS what we need, native Linux apps, and WINE does not solve that issue
to add to your explanation, Steam can do that because games isn’t a piece that change to much after launch, yes, mechanics is added, new maps, but not the SDK for example(it’s more lucrative to launch a new game, like CS2, “same” game, but better engine) and steam games run on a “sandbox”(kind of) and Valve is a multimillionary company that is selling linux hardware and games, they have the money and resource, and they gonna gain money with that, if they make wine work in office they aren’t going to receive anything, every penny is going to microsoft, that’s why there isn’t incentive to make it work
you can collaborate with others using collabora(i think they use libreoffice) idk how good it’s, how to do it etc
and how FTP don’t have drag and drop??, i just setup it on the file manager(i use dolphin that is the KDE file manager) and i just drag like every other file, i’m don’t understand that part
File manager / Nautilus isn’t a practical solution to access remote stuff. It lags way more than WinSCP isn’t as quickly customizable nor does it support SFTP, FTP, SCP, WebDAV and S3. And don’t let me even start with Cyberduck because that one supports A LOT of stuff. Both WinSCP and Cyberduck are very good apps, you install them and get a TON of flexibility with a few clicks and things work as expected. With Nautilus is plugin hell “create shortcuts to mount your remote storage” and “now the session if somehow hanging because the network glitched and the thing can’t deal with it without a remount”.
ssh can be your best friend. Apart from the fact it can give you secure admin access to the device and its files from virtually anything, your phone, another computer…
It also offers you the added one liner tools like sshfs for adding remote drives which act as they are mounted locally… then you get the best expeirence in my opinion better than winscp, because it feels native.
It isn’t better than WinSCP, is it way worse as Nautilus is way less flexible and has less features. And it isn’t as practical, at all. And not everything is SSH either.
Not in my experience. I dont use nautilus… You ahould maybe look at improving your shitty network than complaining about the tools you dont know how to use.
Even finding a decent and working FTP/SFTP/FTPS desktop client (similar WinSCP or Cyberduck) is an impossible task as there a few, but they all fail even at basic stuff like dragging and dropping a file.
Of course you’ll have trouble finding a dedicated desktop client… that functionality is literally built into most Linux file managers.
Anyone who want a simple Virtual Machine and have to go thought cumbersome installation procedures like this one just to reach the end and have error messages saying virtualization isn’t enable when, in fact, it is… or trying to use GNOME Boxes and have a sub-par virtualization experience.
MS Office I get, it’s not replacable for power users. Virtualization though? That’s one of Linux’s strengths. Your issue lies with trying to use VirtualBox, by far one of the worst virtualization solutions (both on Windows and Linux). Linux has QEMU and LXC, two of the most mature virtualization/containerization technologies, use them. If you need a UI for it you can use virt-manager (or “Virtual Machine Manager”), it uses QEMU as backend.
As for GNOME Boxes, everything in the GNOME ecosystem is made to be trivially easy. As such it lacks essential features for power users. In general, if you need avanced features, KDE might be better for you.
Even finding a decent and working FTP/SFTP/FTPS desktop client (similar WinSCP or Cyberduck) is an impossible task as there a few, but they all fail even at basic stuff like dragging and dropping a file.
As @Zamundaaa mentioned, both Dolphin and Nautilus have integrated SFTP/FTP support, you literally just type sftp://host.example.org into your title bar and you are there. It will even use your existing SSH keys out of the box.
If you need a dedicated UI, you can also use FileZilla. It’s included in most repos and I haven’t really found anything it can’t do that WinSCP can. However, I would really recommend looking into how to do this via Dolphin/Nautilus. There’s no level of integration any application can achieve that works as well as being integrated directly into the file browser. If Nautilus is too simple for you (it was for me), Dolphin works on GNOME as well.
I think a lot of your issues stem from being used to do something on Windows and trying to reproduce the same workflow on Linux. That will sometimes work but some workflows have simply developed differently on Linux and if you don’t try to accomodate them you will just bang your head against the wall for nothing. If you find there’s a lack of development for tools on Linux, the most likely reason is simply because nobody is doing it like that.
Linux desktop is not perfect but it’s in a very good state nowadays and quickly improving with every update. It’s in a state that makes it better for my use cases than Windows, which is going backwards with every version.
And… I can’t afford to have documents screwed up because Libre/Open/OnlyOffice aren’t the real deal… and I need to use MS Teams, Excel, Project and have data flowing between each other and Dynamics Nav. All those things Linux native Office solutions can’t do, nor Office Online and certainly not Wine.
Ahh tracking. I’ve never seen a work flow that used data flowing well between MS products. I’ve never had an incompatibility issue yet either, but I believe it, certainly on excel, that program can be a beast.
Very helpful. What’s that fucked up char anyways? :D
Once I managed to get 2019 running however it was slow and glitchy. There was some flickering on the UI and moving objects on Word was mostly impossible.
As you already know, I can’t. I’ve used Libre and OnlyOffice for personal stuff and they’re able to get the job done. Few details that are different but for what’s worth I’ll even say that for some tasks both of them even have easier workflows than MS Office. They kinda remind of the Office 2003 days when MS Office had the UI actualize optimized for speed and productivity not to flash around. Unfortunately for work I can’t just do it.
No, I don’t. The thing is that I see people always saying its all perfect and whatnot when in fact it isn’t. Linux is great, way more stable than anything Microsoft ever did but desktop Linux isn’t a viable option for people who need to collaborate with others and no amount of Wine and other fuckery will make it so.
Wine was always a hack, don’t expect it to fix everything or last long, it don’t have incentive to make office work on there(maybe if microsoft patch the wine, but it easier to just port office imo) that why i said that fixing this problem in wine is hard, i agree about the collaboration, but isn’t a problem fixable from wine sadly, maybe office online? or google docs, or collabora? that why i said that there is better options that already work
Also, collaboration in docs it’s a niche, because it work on online products, programming has git, so it don’t need the same technology, the problem is exclusive to office, and only on the desktop application
That’s not my experience to be honest. ReactOS seems to be lacking a lot of recent APIs that make break programs newer than Windows 7. ReactOS has fewer UI glitches because they reimplementated their own window manager, but that doesn’t make up for the random crashes in my opinion.
I can run Chrome in Wine but very few programs actually work on ReactOS, let alone games.
Recently moved to PopOS and while I’ve been generally aware of Cosmic I’ve been looking into it a lot recently, don’t know much about programming languages but from what I understand Rust is supposed to be really fast for this stuff.
Will using Rust cause the desktop to feel really responsive/snappy compared to other ones like Gnome or KDE Plasma (not that they’re slow), or is it more like an efficiency thing, less CPU/RAM use, etc? If this has already been answered can someone link me because I haven’t been able to find much on it
Rust wouldn’t necessarily make it more responsive. It is more oriented towards safety and robustness.
Cosmic might be more responsive / efficient due to the fact that it’s a new development and they can choose to implement things better and not carry old baggage, but that’s about it.
Synthetic benchmarks written in Rust are as fast as those in C. In practice, Rust applications are more efficient than their C counterparts. The performance and efficiency is nice, but the main benefit will be crash-free software that is free of vulnerabilities caused by common mistakes in C and C++ software. It is easy to develop highly parallel and asynchronous software that just works and is easy to maintain and debug.
There’s half of a century of programming language theory research between C++ and Rust. Which solves many of the issues in programming that are common in C and C++ software. Such as memory safety violations that result in weird application behaviors that are difficult to diagnose, application crashes, and critical software vulnerabilities. The language concepts and compiler features also prevent a lot of common logical mistakes a programmer may make. Such that the best practices in C++ are the baseline for any Rust project that successfully compiles.
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