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dartanjinn , in Share Your Favorite Linux Distros and Why You Love Them

Fedora KDE.

CosmoCrow , in Share Your Favorite Linux Distros and Why You Love Them

Fedora Workstation

CosmoCrow ,

Looks good with gnome and has been stable for my pc.

CosmoCrow ,

Has flatpacks for app security and has some other options for security like selinux.

luthis , in I keep closing my browser tabs by accident with Ctrl + W

I don’t think I’ve realised before that terminal word delete is also tab delete in browsers…

Vilian , in Fedora's telemetry is planned to be OPT-OUT

red hat, what are you doing

hglman ,

P R O F I T

Max_P , in What is the advantage of PKGBUILD over RPM specs?
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Never wrote RPM specs because I generally dislike RPM-based distributions (Fedora was a really bad experience when I tried it), but from a quick Google search they’re very similar.

I kinda like the format at a glance, seems pretty comparable in terms of what you put in there. Definitely less painful than debhelper.

I guess one of the advantages of PKGBUILD is that they’re essentially bash scripts that gets sourced by the tools, so they’re incredibly simple and don’t require parsing a custom format. You can:

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;">#!/bin/sh
</span><span style="color:#62a35c;">source</span><span style="color:#323232;"> PKGBUILD
</span><span style="color:#323232;">prepare
</span><span style="color:#323232;">build
</span><span style="color:#323232;">check
</span><span style="color:#323232;">package
</span>

That comes with disadvantages in that reading the PKGBUILD is inherently unsafe, and it was the cause of many concerns back in the days with tools like yaourt, which pretty much just blindly sourced it to get the variables out, which means immediate code execution just loading it from the AUR.

veer66 OP ,

Do you also dislike openSUSE and openMandriva?

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

I haven’t really given those a try, ArchLinux happens to have ended my distro-hopping 10ish years ago.

Started with Ubuntu 7.04, bailed when they released the first Unity, went through a few Ubuntu spins, then Debian, then Fedora 15 (that one had lots of issues, the installer repeatedly crashed on me and all, it corrupted my partition table forcing me to testdisk to recover, they didn’t have Chromium or any proprietary codecs and apps). I ended up back on Ubuntu for a bit and then took the Arch dive, and been happy ever since and never felt the desire to learn another distro if it doesn’t have significant advantages.

My next distro will probably be something like NixOS, the concept is quite appealing but my VM experiments so far haven’t convinced me to get rid of Arch just yet. Might start using it on my servers for that sweet immutability and centralized config.

jaykstah ,

Haha I’m right there with you. The timeline isn’t as vast but Arch ended my distrohoppong and NixOS is the only thing really catching my eye these days.

I jumped around various Ubuntu spins, settled on Linux Mint for a while, tried out ElementaryOS for a brief moment, went back to Ubuntu spins then eventually went with Arch in 2019 and haven’t looked back.

The immutability and configuration of Nix seems so appealing but at this point I’m really comfortable with Arch and it does everything I need in a pretty sane way so idk if I’d switch anytime soon.

veer66 OP ,

The immutability and configuration of Nix seems so appealing but at this point I’m really comfortable with Arch and it does everything I need in a pretty sane way so idk if I’d switch anytime soon.

Back in 2018, I had the experience of using NixOS. At that time, I noticed that the Nix language had a striking resemblance to Haskell, which stirred up feelings of anxiety within me.

exu ,

I did not know you could just source a PKGBUILD. I’m certain I’ll remember this instead of the correct makepkg flag to run this ot the other stage only.

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

I mean it’s not going to make you a package if you just do that, the real tools do other things in-between but it shows the general simplicity Arch went with there.

Fryboyter ,

That comes with disadvantages in that reading the PKGBUILD is inherently unsafe, and it was the cause of many concerns back in the days with tools like yaourt, which pretty much just blindly sourced it to get the variables out, which means immediate code execution just loading it from the AUR.

However, the AUR helpers in question, which are not official tools, were to blame. Some developers of these tools could not or did not want to solve the problem. According to wiki.archlinux.org/title/AUR_helpers, almost no AUR helper sources the files automatically nowadays.

Laser ,

I think while yaourt was called out for it, there are still issues with doing it this way; it’s the reason the AUR requires a .SRCINFO file nowadays wiki.archlinux.org/title/.SRCINFO

dpflug , in What is the advantage of PKGBUILD over RPM specs?
@dpflug@hachyderm.io avatar

@veer66
One is that it's a shell script, so it feels like there's less to learn. The accuracy of that can be debated.

I've not packaged RPMs in a fair while, so I can't make a more thorough comparison.
@linux

veer66 OP ,

One is that it’s a shell script,

Using Bash sounds convincing to me.

Grouchy , in Fedora's telemetry is planned to be OPT-OUT

That’s lip service to privacy with spyware in reality.

Screak42 , in Fedora's telemetry is planned to be OPT-OUT
@Screak42@infosec.pub avatar

I’m almost certain that is not conform with GDPR in europe to pre-enable checkboxes.

I’m no lawyer but I read it that way and will probably be disappointed.

SMillerNL ,

If it collects user data it is not. If it collects “1 person downloaded an update” it’s perfectly fine

Screak42 ,
@Screak42@infosec.pub avatar

I agree, but whatever they say … who do I trust? I’m paranoid enough to trust only my own network capture.

Vincent ,

If only it was open source. Or if only you could actually do your own network capture. 🤷

SMillerNL ,

That’s not what the GDPR is for though.

Nollij , in RHEL, Reddit, firing employees in the IT sector: Corporate mentality flexes its muscles

Reddit isn’t just trying to balance the budget - they are specifically scrambling to make things work (or at least, look like they will work) for an IPO, which is a beast in and of itself.

bane_killgrind ,

In the long term, all these tech layoffs in a short time frame depress the wages of the entire industry. The industry has seen an explosion of value and until recently quite a bit of that value has been captured by workers and individual innovators, instead of capital investors.

It benefits capital to have high competition for these jobs, and a high cost of entry to independent market action ie disruptive products only being viable with access to large data sets and processing to deal with that volume of data. The workers underbid each other while the owner of the platforms dictate access to them.

phx ,

Guessing that the whole “data scraping AI” thing also kick-started a bit of a panic with them

Nollij ,

Possibly. I’m not entirely sure how to interpret that part.

One plausible scenario is that they brought in a consultant, who said their data would be worth $XXXX on the open market. A common element of MBA thinking is that any potential profits are something you are entitled to, regardless of the consequences. It’s also pretty clear they don’t have a mature management team, or a viable path to realize those profits. But they had to stop someone else from getting it, so there was a rushed decision. I don’t quite know how it coincided with killing 3rd party apps, though, unless it was just more really incompetent management.

cousinofjah ,
@cousinofjah@lemmy.world avatar

It makes me think that the third party thing was the original intent and the data scraping was the cover. Also u/spez kinda said as much with his Elon love fest.

phx ,

Yeah for a lot of companies they don’t seem to separate blood-from-a-stone unrealized profits from losses, even when aggressively persuing the former may well result in loss.

I could definitely see FB, Reddit, etc going “company X is making money from AI using our data, we need to stop that and do so instead” while completely overlooking the costs inherent in building the AI system or user-impact.

Kinda like when all the ISP’s decided Netflix owed them money because users were accessing it through their networks (and completely disregarding that the users already paid for that access), because corps are greedy fucks that way.

3rdBlueWizard , in RHEL, Reddit, firing employees in the IT sector: Corporate mentality flexes its muscles

Is there a stallmanwasright community here yet? This would fit in there.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

There is: !stallmanwasright It’s active albeit a bit slow.

Nollij ,

There is, and it’s not completely dead

!stallmanwasright

Krompus ,
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

I’m still getting used to Lemmy. Does anybody know why I see no posts when viewing the lemmy.ml instance but I see posts when viewing it via lemmy.world?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5b9a8e47-78ce-4a17-980a-9f4cef3ea922.png

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/79a71605-2e6e-41a3-9a95-8fcf28fa4676.png

EthanolParty ,

Maybe try sorting by “New.” I’ve got a weird bug right now where old posts vanish if I sort by Active/Hot

Nollij ,

I experienced the same thing! (Except my home instance is FMHY, not LW)

It is the same experience as trying to view NSFW subs on another instance that I’m not logged into. I already know there’s a filter that won’t show NSFW if you aren’t logged in, which explains those. I even checked, and didn’t see this as having anything marked NSFW.

I’m going to chalk it up as a Lemmy bug.

bbsm3678 , in Fedora's telemetry is planned to be OPT-OUT

Do you know how this will affect existing installations? Is this gnome only or any desktop?

shreddy_scientist ,
@shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml avatar

States the gnome-initial-setup. KDE is big on telemetry only being opt-in, so it seems like just the gnome environment. Or at least I hope I’m right…

Raphael OP ,
@Raphael@lemmy.world avatar

It won’t affect existing installations, definitely won’t. You may get a “Welcome Screen” on a new GNOME update that enables it if you just click next.

No idea about KDE, Fedora higher ups don’t care about it but KDE does have support for Welcome Screens, they’ll likely use that if they can.

freamon , in LocalSend is an all-platform airdrop!

I’m still transferring stuff between my phone and computer using FTP, like some caveman.

dpflug ,
@dpflug@hachyderm.io avatar

@freamon
I started using SyncThing. Highly recommended.
@string_cat

madeindjs ,

Same. Plus, on local network, everything stay on the network.

I’m starting watch a movie on my PC, then move the movie file into a synced folder, na finish the movie 2" later on my phone.

redw0rm ,

Me too… using MTP for my phone to lap transfers.Nothing ever came fast as cable transfer.

StorageB ,

At least you’re not emailing yourself files.

908musdf ,

Yep, except with http here (python3 -m uploadserver).

saba ,

I had a script in termux that used exiftool to rename and organize photos and then rsync them to my backup. That was on an older phone. I need to do that again!

aka_oscar , in Fedora Workstation 40 Considering To Implement Privacy-Preserving Telemetry

Fedora is looking at using the Endless OS metrics system for the collection of usage metrics.

This previously shared article showcases the details of Endless OS metrics, for those who were wondering.

Users will have the option to disable data upload before any data is sent for the first time […] and will not depend on Google Analytics or any other controversial third-party services.

While its still just a proposal, there is a lot of focus in protecting the privacy of their users. I’m glad they have those considerations in mind, and I hope it stays that way.

I recommend most people to read the devel list thread in order to better form an opinion on the topic.

PanaX , in Good dumb TV for my living room media center?

IF you have the space, go for a projector. I got a nice short throw 1080 Benq with a decent 120 inch screen. And wow, it’s incredible. It’s amazing for shows, movies, and games. I paid 800 total for everything. There’s everything from 200 dollar to 5k dollars, depending on what quality you want.

nyan , in Share your favorite Linux Desktop Environment

TDE (for those who haven’t encountered it before, the Trinity Desktop Environment forked from KDE3 more than a decade ago). It might not be the flashiest or the newest, but it has a decent selection of features and applications, and presents a traditional desktop environment whose interface doesn’t get changed for the sake of change. In other words, it stays out of the way and lets me get things done.

(If I’d liked Gnome 2 better than KDE 3 rather than vice-versa, I probably would have gone for MATE instead.)

Audacity9961 ,

Correct me if i’m wrong but doesn’t TDE depend on the undermaintained qt3?

nyan ,

The TDE crew have also taken on responsibility for maintaining TQT (formerly QT3). If you’re aware of any open bugs, go ahead and file them to the TQT3 repo on TDE’s Gitea and someone will have a look.

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