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Simplesyrup , in Poll about Fedora OPT-OUT telemetry metrics proposal
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Used fedora KDE once, never again, I’m gonna stick with Ubuntu

Sordirsin , (edited ) in [SOLVED] Steam Not starting on EndeavourOS/Arch

It could be related to this issue: github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/…/9805

Edit: Might be an issue with a recent libgudev update. The end of this comment has some potential work arounds: github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/…/9805#i…

Zangoose OP ,

Installing the lib32-libnm package ended up fixing the issue

JustTesting , in [SOLVED] Steam Not starting on EndeavourOS/Arch

There’s currently a known bug with nvidia and steam, might be what you’re having. See github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/…/9634There’s some workarounds there that worked for me

EvilColeslaw , in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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It’ll be interesting to see if that number climbs once Windows 10 reaches EOL.

PrivateNoob ,

Win 10 IOT Enterprise LTSC will be my last Windows. I’m fairly sure Linux will be significantly greater in 2032, so I can avoid this spyware trash. Unfortunately my area of expertise is C#/.NET, so I’m stuck with this trash when I will be a working citizen.

coolmojo ,

.NET 5 and 6 are cross platform, so there is a Linux version. Unfortunately there is no Visual Studio for Linux (yet), only for MacOS.

PrivateNoob ,

Yeah luckily some people use C#/.NET on Linux with VS Code or Rider usually, it’s just VS Studio is de facto standard in companies,

thinkfan , in What screen locker do you use and why?

Physlock because it locks the other vts as well.

2xsaiko , in What is a good way to benchmark test a GPU in Linux?
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I use this, but more as a stress test instead of actually checking performance. www.geeks3d.com/gputest/

vortexal OP ,
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Ok, I tried that but is it just supposed to display a triangle? It also didn’t have a GUI, is that only in the MacOS version of the app or am I supposed to run the .py file? If I’m to run the .py file, that is something I don’t know how to do.

2xsaiko ,
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There’s a bunch of benchmarks you can run apart from the triangle, like Furmark which render a more complex scene. I’ve only used the shell scripts, no idea what the python script does.

Lemmchen , in What is a good way to benchmark test a GPU in Linux?

Honestly your best bet is probably to use a game with a built-in benchmark over Steam. That way you get numbers that are somewhat comparable to the ones from public sources (game review sites/videos).
I don’t know why there isn’t a proper tool like 3DMark for Linux systems.

vortexal OP ,
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When you say “built-in benchmark over Steam” what does that mean? If that is a common thing, I have a steam account but I’ve never really used it before as I get pretty much all of my games from itch.

Lemmchen ,

Sorry, what I really meant was over Proton. So, installing a game like Shadow of the Tomb Raider that have a built-in benchmark and run it via Proton.

vortexal OP ,
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Oh ok, but on top of the fact that I can’t run that game, I don’t really need help anymore. I’ve already determined that I’m pretty sure that my GPU is having hardware problems.

Genrawir , in Stable Linux distro with up to date packages

Fedora is more up to date than Ubuntu, and quite stable. Of course, depending on the exact packages you’re looking for the answer might change.

mranderson17 , in What is a good way to benchmark test a GPU in Linux?

I use the unigine benchmarks sometimes. unigine-heaven and unigine-superposition (which btw is just cool to watch in my opinion). They provide linux packages here benchmark.unigine.com , check your distributions repos too though, some include these too though it’s rare. They are not open source, but games usually aren’t either.

The phoronix one that someone else posted also looks cool, I’ll have to try that one out next time I need something like this.

vortexal OP ,
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I tried to download unigine but I can’t seem to figure out how to download it. I’m using Linux Mint and the only download option seems to be a .run file which doesn’t seem to be executable in Mint. I also don’t know how to look through the repositories and when I tried to install “unigine-heaven” in apt, it told me it couldn’t find it in the repositories. So unless it’s called something else when you install it through apt, I don’t know how to download it.

Also, I did look into Phoronix but it only mentions that it benchmarks CPUs and not GPUs.

angrymouse ,

Did you gave execution permission to the file?

chmod +x yourfile.run

vortexal OP , (edited )
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I’ll have to tell you later, I’m trying to re-download it but it seems like my ISP is throttling my internet connection because Firefox is telling me that it’s going to take an hour and a half to download, even though the first time only took a few minutes to download.

vortexal OP ,
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Ok that worked, as it turns out, the problem was that I’ve never used a .run file before and, at least from what I can tell, .run files are similar to .sh files.

Anyways, I’ve never really done benchmark tests before but I did play around with it a little. The settings I used was low graphics, full screened to the custom resolution of 1360x768 (the resolution of the monitor I use) and everything else was disabled. The frame rate ranged from 12 to 26 (or at least somewhere around that), does that seem good for an AMD Radeon R2 Graphics?

angrymouse ,

does that seem good for an AMD Radeon R2 Graphics?

about this I actually cannot help you, I understand almost nothing about this kind of benchmark, sorry

ablackcatstail , in [SOLVED] Steam Not starting on EndeavourOS/Arch
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NVIDIA GPU was going to be my guess as well.

dissonant OP , in Dualboot with Linux Mint and Win 10 Pro. How to stop Windows 10 from overriding my boot order in BIOS on every restart?

SOLVED: So the boot order was correct in UEFI, but for some reason CSM was disabled. Re-enabling that now causes GRUB to appear, and the PC boots into Linux without any other input. Thanks everyone!

bbbhltz , in What is a good way to benchmark test a GPU in Linux?
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I seem to recall a browser test that sort of works.

glxgears and glmark2 are probably too basic.

Phoronix test thing maybe? github.com/…/phoronix-test-suite/

vortexal OP ,
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Do you know what the browser test is called or how to run it?

I didn’t run glxgears and I did run glmark2 yesterday but I stopped it half way through. If I remember correctly, the frame rates from the test ranged from 80 to over 1000 fps depending on the test but I have no idea if that’s good for the GPU or bad because I don’t remember the results I got on my old computer. If someone knows GPUs well enough, my old GPU was an intel HD Graphics 3000 and the GPU in this computer is an AMD Radeon R2 Graphics.

Also, I looked into Phoronix but it looks like it just benchmarks CPUs.

bbbhltz ,
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I did find it but it is just a VSYNC test thing. Not sure how to diagnose these things. The only time I had major issues was when I installed the wrong drivers, so user error. Maybe the distro you’re using has an IRC or Matrix chat room that would be willing to help out?

vortexal OP ,
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I’m using Linux Mint and I’m just using the drivers that were preinstalled by the distro. If it’s possible that Mint installed the wrong drivers somwhow, I wouldn’t know where to look to get help with that.

bbbhltz ,
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It might be using the integrated GPU…

Try and install lshw and run sudo lshw -numeric -C display and give us the output.

Edit…

Or glxinfo | grep “OpenGL vendor|OpenGL renderer”

vortexal OP , (edited )
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It is using the integrated GPU, it’s a laptop that only has an integrated GPU. Also, lshw is having the same problem it had with my old computer, where it doesn’t seem to list the right clock speed and just says it’s running at 33Mhz. I know this is wrong because on my old computer, other software would state the clock speed was much higher. But another thing I’m noticing that’s wrong is the GPU is listed as an R3 when the GPU is actually an R2, so unless they share drivers, It’s possible that Mint (I’m using Linux Mint) installed the wrong drivers.

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">  *-display                 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       description: VGA compatible controller
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       product: Mullins [Radeon R3 Graphics] [1002:9850]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] [1002]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       physical id: 1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       logical name: /dev/fb0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       version: 40
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       width: 64 bits
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       clock: 33MHz
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom fb
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       configuration: depth=32 driver=radeon latency=0 resolution=1366,768
</span><span style="color:#323232;">       resources: irq:38 memory:e0000000-efffffff memory:f0000000-f07fffff ioport:4000(size=256) memory:f0d00000-f0d3ffff memory:c0000-dffff
</span>
bbbhltz ,
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I was kinda hoping I’d see something obvious but I am not a great troubleshooter, more of try things to see what works…

You can still use the Phoronix thing for testing the GPU:

But perhaps something else is interfering.

What does sudo apt list --installed | grep -i radeon show?

vortexal OP ,
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Unigine-heaven was available by itself and it worked but I’ve never benchmark tested anything before. The settings I used was low graphics, full screened to the custom resolution of 1360x768 (the resolution of the monitor I use) and everything else was disabled. The frame rate ranged from 12 to 26 (or at least somewhere around that), does that seem good for an AMD Radeon R2 Graphics?

Also that command returns this: `WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

libdrm-radeon1/jammy-updates,now 2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1 amd64 [installed] xserver-xorg-video-radeon/jammy-updates,now 1:19.1.0-2ubuntu1 amd64 [installed] `

bbbhltz ,
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🤷‍♂️ all I can say is the drivers are installed.

Perhaps there is a Xorg option that needs to be modified or set a kernel parameter. Sorry I can’t help anymore.

Even though it is Mint, the advice on the ArchWiki might help you out.

wiki.archlinux.org/title/AMDGPU#Loading says that it should use the amdgpu driver so that is something to look into.

Good luck!

vortexal OP ,
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I just tried glxinfo but it didn’t do anything and unless it’s called something else, apt can’t locate the package.

bbbhltz ,
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I think it is in the mesa-utils package but that doesn’t matter…your other answer provided some more info

krolden ,
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MetaPhrastes , in ΠΑΜΕ ΕΛΛΑΔΑΡΑ ΜΟΥ!!! (LET'S GO GREECE!!!)
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Be it for economic reasons, be it for any other reason this is really good news! Kudos to Greece and to all Greek people. My country, Italy, is still below 1% as of June 2023 according to statcounter so there’s still a lot of work to do! Seeing Linux as an option to bring back to life second hand or old hardware, preventing wastes and promoting circular economy is an idea I really like.

ablackcatstail , in AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare
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AMD chooses not to be evil so I am not shocked.

Digester , in [SOLVED] Steam Not starting on EndeavourOS/Arch
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How exactly did you install steam? Maybe delete the files and try installing it from a difference source.

Zangoose OP ,

I just installed it through pacman. I’m contemplating moving over to the flatpak version but I really don’t want to have to redownload all of my games

entropicdrift ,
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You don’t have to redownload all your games. I just switched to the flatpak this past month, here’s what I did:

Leave steam installed natively, install the flatpak alongside it, using flatpak steam, open the root of the library folder (should be steamapps), then find the corresponding folder from the native install and recursively hardlink all the files from the native install’s steamapps folder to the flatpak’s steamapps folder. Quit steam and reopen and all your games should be detected.

It’ll need to “update” basically all of them for at least a second to verify the files and it might need to re-process Vulkan shaders, but that’s it.

Zangoose OP ,

how do I hardlink files? I’ve been using linux for a few years but I’ve never really used links before for files. This seems to be the best strategy because everything else hasn’t worked so far

entropicdrift ,
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cp -lr <src> <target>

That command should do it

cp is the copy paste CLI tool. -l flag tells it to make a hard link instead of a second copy of the data itself on the disk. The -r flag tells it to recurse, so “do this copy operation on everything in every folder under the top level directory I hand you to copy”

Zangoose OP ,

Thanks for this! I ended up fixing the local steam install (ended up being a network manager problem with steam) but I’ll keep this in mind because I’ll probably want to switch to the flatpak version in the future anyway

entropicdrift ,
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Eh, honestly, since Steam updates itself you’re probably fine without the flatpak unless you have a reason to need it.

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