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dedale , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?
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Where I live it's much more complete than google maps, especially in the countryside.

borlax , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?
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I love the idea of OSM, been trying to use MagicEarth on iPhone which leverages OSM, but I run into similar issues that your describe. I’ll be honest tho, I never even thought of trying to contribute, may look into it as a little hobby in my free time.

zephyr , in Mission Center: A rust clone of the Windows Task Manager

Nice. I was looking for some GUI helper in Linux similar to Device Manager

EugeneNine , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

I use it a lot. I’m finding things like hiking trails are more up to date than Google maps

Coeus OP ,

I’ve noticed there are nature trails missing so I would like to add those.

neytjs , in why did you switch?

Windows XP was the last Windows that I wanted to use. When it became totally obsolete, I upgraded to Linux Mint. I will never go back to Windows. I did not even start off using Windows. MS-DOS was my first operating system.

original_ish_name ,

I did not even start off using Windows. MS-DOS was my first operating system.

Windows wasn't around during the days of ms-dos, windows is just newer ms-dos

NaturalEnganche , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

I’ve not contributed to the main one, but I have for the humanitarian osm team, you get recently disaster stricken areas and copy roads and buildings and the like

db2 , in Anyone else starting to favor Flatpak over native packages?

I don’t like flatpak or snap or any of them. System libraries exist for good reason, just because your computer is stupid fast and you have enough disk for the library of Congress a couple times over doesn’t mean you should run a veritable copy of your whole operating system for each program. IMO it’s lazy.

Sandboxing is a different thing though, if that’s the purpose then it’s doing it right.

ebits21 ,
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I have a ton of flatpaks which means packages are shared between them, so no it’s not lazy or a copy of the whole system. It makes a ton of sense for stability.

Updates are diff’s so downloading and updating is fast. Not entire packages.

Making every package work with only a certain version of a dependency and hoping it is stable doesn’t make a lot of sense.

db2 ,

You know you can have many versions of a library on your system at once, right?

ebits21 ,
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As long as they don’t cause conflicts. You know dependency hell is a thing right? The reason flatpaks were thought up in the first place? Right?

stevecrox ,
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Nice out of date dependencies with those lovely security vulnerabilities!

ebits21 ,
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Touché

Developers shouldn’t be out of date, but yes.

GregoryTheGreat ,

That got so spicy so fast.

azvasKvklenko ,

Besides that it’s only partially true (unless we speak Nix systems) That’s also not the point of it. It’s more about having runtime environment that an app was built against and tested with.

stevecrox ,
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You've just moved the packaging problem from distributions to app developers.

The reason you have issues is historically app developers weren't interested in packaging their application so distributions would figure it out.

If app developers want to package deb, rpm, etc.. packages it would also solve the problem.

ebits21 ,
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Sure. Except you gain universal compatibility for all distros that have flatpak and aren’t building all the different package formats. Makes it much more attractive for actual developers to package since it’s only done once.

There’s no right answer here, but there are definite benefits.

I’ve had many little issues since I moved to Linux years ago, most of which would never have been an issue if flatpaks were there at the time. My experience has been better with them.

manpacket ,

Makes it much more attractive for actual developers to package since it’s only done once.

I maintain a few apps that are included into some distributions with no participation from my side apart from tagging what I consider releases in my git repo. How is doing something only once is more attractive as not doing it at all?

true_blue , (edited )
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Because you can make sure it was done right. You don’t have to worry about bugs or other issues being the result of faulty packaging if you’re the one doing the packaging. Plus It makes reproducing bugs easier when everyone’s using the same package, and declaring the flatpak as the official package makes it much more likely that people will use the flatpak.

zephyr ,

Yeah, that’s why Arch is almost the only distro that keeps everything installed natively. All other distros either have a troublesome workaround or only support flatpaks.

Rolling release just keeps everyone on the same pace. Yes, they break sometimes, but on the long run it just works.

onTerryO ,
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As a long time Arch user, it’s not perfect, but it is perfect for me.

Tippon ,

I like them for the opposite reason. I’m still quite new to Linux, so I’m figuring out which software is best for me. I set up my server with Xubuntu and installed everything through Apt. I uninstalled a lot of software, but inevitably missed some things like libraries and config files.

Using Flatpak seems to keep track of everything, so uninstalling gets rid of everything that I would otherwise miss.

If it’s doing what it says on the tin, Flatpak is making my life much easier :)

DidacticDumbass OP ,

Trying to purge orphan dependencies is absolutely annoying. Talk about wasting space!

DidacticDumbass OP ,

I see your point, and I agree. No need to spend resources just because we have them.

Sandboxing is definitely a benefit, but alas as I am learning I have no control of it’s permissions, so that can potentially go wrong.

arirr ,

You can manage Flatpak permissions with Flatseal.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

Great! I knew it was possible. That is one less argument against it.

greybeard ,

Flatseal is super easy for anyone with a tech background to use. You can very quickly expand or reduce the access an app has to your system. Even below what the app comes with by default.

I do kinda wish the guis for installing flatpak apps were more forthcoming with the permissions, and possibly integrated some of the features of flatseal so you could modify the permission set before installing.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

It does seem pretty intuitive.

Honestly I just sometimes want the app to see a file outside of Downloads.

yamapikariya , in Which distro has the best GUI in your opinion?
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For some reason I find stock GNOME UIs appealing

Nuuskis9 , in Mission Center: A rust clone of the Windows Task Manager

Haha this is fun project. Youtuber ‘Dave’s Garage’ spend years with annual six figures to create this tool.

jsveiga , in Linux taught me self-confidence

One of the advantages of Linux over Windows is that if you have a problem and don’t give up digging, you’ll find the cause - even if you end up digging down to looking at the kernel source and interacting with the developers themselves. With Windows, you quickly get to a dead end (“try rebooting, then format and reinstall”).

socphoenix ,

Don’t forget every windows forum solution: “run sfck”!

r00ty Admin , in Why are we stuck with bash programming language in the shell?
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I think you just need to use the right tool for the job.

Personally bash scripts are fine for any basic comparison operations or just running stuff together like a windows batch file. Maybe checking result codes, searching for processes, selectively killing etc.

Beyond that, but where I expect it to be still a convenience/automation script I use perl (which is where probably most people would now use python, but I'm old). It can still be run from command line, it can access databases, can be OO if you want it to (but generally if I am going that far I move to a faster language) and in general for moderately complex automation I use perl.

If it gets complicated (250+ lines as a general rule) or needs speed, then I'd move onto a proper programming language because now it has become a project.

But, that's just me.

morethanevil , in Mission Center: A rust clone of the Windows Task Manager
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Looks great 😸 Useful for a quick Overview I wish there would be something like Crystal Disk Info for Linux or hwinfo 🤔

demonsword , in Is my project useful?
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if it’s useful to you it might be useful for someone out there, I say go for it

shreddy_scientist , in why did you switch?
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You may want to dual boot, especially if your classes are online. I’ve seen issue after issue using a Windows VM for online exams. But, for me it’d be worth asking a buddy or using the computer lab to get around an invasive OS as your daily driver.

dream_weasel ,

Maybe have both. Dual boot is not as helpful as a VM, or st least it wasnt when I was trying to make the switch.

shreddy_scientist ,
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For sure, but online exams for college see VM’s as a cheating option since the base OS isn’t accessible by the exam software to restrict. I’ve seen on going workarounds, but these exam programs always adapt, making more settings changes required for a VM to work on a test. As if a difficult exam wasn’t tough enough. Windows provides the exam software’s the lockdown capabilities they desire, so alt OS options aren’t allowed.

dream_weasel ,

For those purposes yes you need dual boot. However, of you’re learning a new OS, dual boot is often just too inconvenient the rest of the time. It’s way easier to spool a VM because you can’t get your phone to connect and troubleshoot that problem later (compared to log out and restart to get a picture off you need) for example.

I’m saying have both. It’s just bytes on disk.

fujiwara , in why did you switch?
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Every time I boot into Windows, it tries to force me to sign into a Microsoft account. I have to unplug my Ethernet cable to get past it. I just got over it and installed Mint instead. I almost never boot into Windows unless it’s for something specific.

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