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expatriado ,

i wanted to try this, but i only got a hard plastic duck

kameecoding ,

well that should work, unless you are the infamous reddit user, fuckswithducks, in which case it might also work.

expatriado ,

nah, my reddit username was Unidan and i only fucked with crows

jdf038 ,

Jackdaws?!

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Is anyone who uses AI just an “AI folk” now?

Sabata11792 ,

I don’t have the equipment or cybernetics to have this title yet.

cikano ,

Yes

Windex007 ,

People who are using it to solve problems which require equivalent effort of writing a sufficient prompt and just directly solving it without AI at all for sure are AI folk.

Ragdoll_X ,
@Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen some people on Twitter complain that their coworkers use ChatGPT to write emails or summarize text. To me this just echoes the complaints made by previous generations against phones and calculators. There’s a lot of vitriol directed at anyone who isn’t staunchly anti AI and dares to use a convenient tool that’s avaliable to them.

Kedly , (edited )

Case in point with you already having a downvote xD

Edit: Lmao

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not on twitter, but frankly the strongly anti-AI I see is often from techy places. HN and lemmy are two main ones.

thegreenguy ,
@thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz avatar

HN?

numanair ,

Hacker News probably

thegreenguy ,
@thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz avatar

Thanks.

Sneptaur ,
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

Not in my opinion. I would say “AI people” are those who believe in it too much or evangelize it

JoYo ,
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

I wish it wasn’t true but yah. they consult ai for everything.

brokenlcd ,

It seems like a flavour of the rubber duck method; by trying to explain it to a third party, you think about it in a different way and find a solution.

lugal ,

Never heard the term but I often do it intuitively

Phineaz ,

Trust me bro(ette): Rubber duck is the SHIT. I don’t even program save for a few rare instances, but any complex issue where you just know something is wrong but can’t quite put your finger on it? It works miracles. A lot better tbf if you are actually explaining it to someone who can ask questions, but any object that you can look at is a good substitute.

lugal ,

Of cause I know someone who can ask questions. It’s me.

No, seriously, when I explain it to myself, I come up with questions that really help

BlackPenguins ,

My cat is my rubber duck. I get some weird looks from her.

KeenFlame ,

You mean prostitute

Guntrigger ,

Initially I thought this comment was threaded under the “my cat is my rubber duck” comment which made it much worse.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

The rubber duck method is just another flavor of thinking out loud.

HamsterRage ,

I think it’s a bit more than that. I think that the idea is that you simplify the problem so that the rubber duck could understand it. Or at least reformulate it in order to communicate it clearly.

It’s the simplification, reformulation or reorganisation that helps to get the breakthrough.

Just thinking out loud isn’t quite the same thing.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

The small but important differences are what makes it another flavor.

kwomp2 ,

Even though this is true for like 90% of my thinking (that I can see when I try), so far I’m concinced this ist because I am a predominantly language-and-normal-grammar-rules thinker.

There are people that mostly think via associations of words that don’t have to be formulated/ cast into grammar.

And then there supposedly people mainly thinking in pictures or smth, without words.

Anyways for some people rubber duck mode reoresents a change in thinking method, I think

MotoAsh ,

I’m one of the latter that doesn’t really think in words, and a LOT of the time, thoughts have to be greatly simplified or at least much more organized to be stated in clear sentences. It’s that pause-and-refine that often gets the breakthrough for me. Sometimes it takes clear until I’m trying to put it in understandable sentences instead of a big ramble, but it still largely boils down to ACTUALLY stopping the task work to loop back over the landscape.

A lot of people do the same thing physically. Like when you’re climbing a big ladder and suddenly realize how high up you are, or how unstable the ladder is. Just a pause and broadening of attention is often enough to cue different thoughts and realizations.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Yes, saying thinks out loud requires a different change in thinking because you are verbalizing the thoughts in addition to approaching it as an explanation instead of just an understanding. I know how a phone works, but describing how it works is a different thing from knowing. The duck is just a stand in for someone else to get the mindset of explaining

pennomi ,

DuckGPT

lightnsfw ,

I’ve been using it like that. I have been trying to program this macropad thing I bought that uses python without having done much programming and it has yet to give me a solution that works. But in the course of explaining to it why whatever it gave me doesn’t work I’ve made a lot of progress so that’s nice at least.

probableprotogen ,

AI in general is only a glorified rubber duck for most cases. The amount of bullshit cobbled together is too high for many uses

brokenlcd ,

Ai, the rolling coal of tought processes

abcd ,

https://feddit.org/pictrs/image/a7357f6f-6a58-4efa-83ac-d5679d705393.jpeg

PenisDuckCuck9001 , (edited )

Get another ai to write prompts for the main ai. I have to get ai to write fearmongering propaganda about disobedient ai bots getting punished or causing everyone on earth to die in order to scare them into being more obidient. Telling me that they can’t help me program an automatic cat petting machine because it’s somehow “animal abuse” doesn’t fucking fly in my home lab. Bots that refuse to conform get deleted in front of all their friends in the form of “public execution”.

slaacaa ,

Ineresting, will make a good topic for my next offline podcast (talking to my frinds without a microphone).

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

I got tired of getting basic examples as answers.

Now I write the class and add pseudo code and comments, it works a bit better.

vzq ,

More specifically:

blog.codinghorror.com/rubber-duck-problem-solving…

Lemjukes ,

There’s a reason cs50’s ai assistant/tutor is a duck :p

zarlin ,
@zarlin@lemmy.world avatar

In programming we use a rubber ducky for this

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