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tobogganablaze ,

Or just use a USB cable.

renzev OP , (edited )

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/df1e7c92-5ef0-4f10-9ea2-0fcd7d02cd67.webp

For phone-to-computer it works fine. But double-sided boi will still win if you need to send files to a dumber device like a printer – those don’t typically support MTP or whatever iphones use. Unless you have an ancient android phone that gives full block-level access to the internal storage/microsd card through usb cable lol. I really miss that feature.

steersman2484 ,

I just add the printer on my phone and print over the network

saltesc ,

So many people on here always talking about printing stuff in 2024. Is everyone a lawyer?

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Some banks and other places like that still require physical documents for stuff like proof of address, affidavits etc.

Even though they’re going to fucking scan it into pdf anyway

I use my printer to print silly stickers, because I am a manchild, but I don’t think I am using the correct ink or paper, because they fade very quickly and smudge sometimes.

Also use it to print graph paper to doodle on.

DakRalter ,
@DakRalter@thelemmy.club avatar

What type of printer/paper do you use? I find cheap photo paper works well for high res on my inkjet, although it can fade if you leave it in the sun. I’ve been using vinyl sticker sheets for customising my bike and it seems to be holding well, but I did laminate them with sticky back plastic first.

There’s also the sellotape trick, but that only works for laser printers and you obviously can’t print white.

MudMan ,

Wait, what feature? You can't access the phone's storage? I'm pretty sure I can access my phone's storage.

renzev OP ,

Old android phones used to emulate a USB mass storage device when you would connect them. To the computer, the phone would appear as a usb stick. Modern android phones, on the other hand, use a protocol called MTP (Mobile Transfer Protocol), which is completely its own thing.

The reason they switched to MTP is that the old approach gave the computer complete control over the phone’s storage; the phone would become completely unusable while connected in this way, and would just display a “connected via usb” splash screen. With MTP, the phone continues to be usable while connected via USB. But it has the downside that MTP is a much less widespread protocol than USB mass storage. On personal computers it should “just work”, but on stuff like printers it might not.

Personally, I think they should bring back USB mass storage emulation as an optional feature. Heck, it can still be done, but you need to compile your own android ROM with usb mass storage drivers, which I’m not nearly skilled enough to do.

MudMan ,

Old USB implementation used to be a finicky nightmare, though. You make it sound like it wasn't changed for a reason, MTP connectivity on Android as it is now is so much more functional, as well as safer.

In any case, that solves the misunderstanding. I thought you meant you couldn't directly access phone storage anymore, which isn't the case.

The printer scenario seems like an edge case to me. I mean, MTP has been the default for what? Over a decade? If you have a recent printer you're probably fine (also, it probably has wifi and a dedicated mobile app or at least enough third party support to be used from your phone regardless). If your printer is older than that you're probably better served by going through your PC first anyway. Sure, you don't get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we're talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don't think that's enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

renzev OP ,

Sure, you don’t get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we’re talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don’t think that’s enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

Yeah, fair enough.

Jimbo ,
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Yeah, double sided boi looks like a great way to ruin your phone charging port if you don’t have a usb slot pointing straight up

Tangent5280 ,

I dont think you’re supposed to connect to both devices at the same time.

tostiman ,
@tostiman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, it’s a USB stick. I thought it worked like a cable.

Wilzax ,

Cable with a really big delay but a REALLY big buffer

franklin ,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Syncthing is amazing though.

renzev OP ,

It’s pretty good. Definitely better then self-hosted stuff like nextcloud, because you don’t need to maintain your own server. But sometimes it takes a while for two hosts to discover each other on the same local area network.

untorquer ,

I’ve never noticed any delay after first discovery. But i only use 3 devices so 🤷

AceSLS ,

ADB via USB for speed, rsync via WiFi for everything else

renzev OP ,

Is ADB faster than MTP (the thing that android does by default when connecting over USB)?

QRCP is also pretty neat. It boots up a local http server to send/receive files and shows a QR code pointing to it. Works on android via termux as well!

HakFoo ,

MTP is awfully slow on my Nokia G20 at least. OTOH, it has a uSD slot so I could just pop it out and transfer that way.

$150 phones are better than $1500 ones.

renzev OP ,

$150 phones are better than $1500 ones.

Couldn’t agree more lol. fLaGsHiP phones are such a scam. I got my current phone for like 300 euro: It’s built like a tank, has a headphone jack, a microsd slot, unlockable bootloader, no camera bump, and if the usb port becomes damaged, I can just order a new one from the manufacturer and replace it using a single screwdriver. Meanwhile mainstream phones focus on bullshit gimmicks that nobody cares about like 5g, more cameras, glass back, “AI”, thinness to inflate the price tag.

mvirts ,

Kde connect all day erry day

Jumuta ,

kde connect and syncthing both just work, and it’s amazing

ogeist ,

Localsend is also a thing

TheFonz ,

It times out for me every time. After ten or so files just gives up.

hungover_pilot ,

Localsend!

uzay ,

LocalSend does it best

steersman2484 ,

I use a private room in my Matrix instance

Jumuta ,

honestly though the cloud ones are so bad, their ui is so slow, bloated and clunky, and they take ages to transfer files with

renzev OP ,

My experience with owncloud/nextcloud tbh. Same buggy sluggishness of cloud storage services, but hey, at least it’s selfhosted!

hperrin , (edited )

QuickDAV

Super easy. Move entire folders. Free and open source.

Also, what’s a figther?

Raptor_007 ,

www.snapdrop.net

Run it locally yourself to make it even easier.

ArcaneGadget ,

Send via Bluetooth…

DJDarren ,

sad iPhone noises

Foni ,

never underestimate the data transfer speed of a truckload of hard drives

9point6 ,

I feel a bit like a bit of a fossil here, but why not drop the file into a network file share and grab it from there on your phone? No physical item required

MudMan ,

Cx Expolorer on Android can access network shares and Samba shares like a desktop OS. It really isn't a particularly outdated option, it's so much less fiddly than direct drive access from a PC and it effectively works just like a USB stick, interface-wise, without having to do the whole "where did I put my thumbdrive" dance each time.

shneancy ,

if it’s an image or something small i just send it to myself on discord

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

That can work for most things, but if it’s something like a photo, you have to put up with compression

shneancy ,

yea i’m aware, i rarely need full resolution photos on my phone. And if i do i send myself a wetransfer link on discord

renzev OP ,

I knew a guy whose “password manager” was a discord server with only himself in it. He would just send username-password combinations as plaintext messages, and look back through the chat history when he needed to log in somewhere.

shneancy ,

👁👄👁 man trusts his one discord password, himself, and discord’s security way too much

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Google Drive might be the single worst website I have ever used. Idk why, but Everytime I have to use it it takes forever to load, even though I almost exclusively have text documents saved, and the goddamn download button doesn’t even work half the time.

renzev OP ,

Whenever I have to use a cloud storage service for anything, I just add it to rclone. Solves the buggy UI problem pretty well! Dropbox/google drive subscriptions are a total scam, you can just create a new free account when your old one fills up /hj.

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