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finley ,

tbf, Crooks was shooting from 130m away with little/no experience

magic_lobster_party ,

And probably aware once he shoots he’s going to die shortly after.

VieuxQueb ,
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He apparently was rejected from his shooting group due to inability to aim.

BigBananaDealer ,
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i dont get this narrative. little to no experience and hes inches away from a killing headshot at that distance. thats fucking hard as hell to do

finley ,

someone in another thread was like, “he had a scope!” and i’m like, “so? have you ever shot through a scope? it’s not like a video game where scope guarantees a headshot. it just makes it a bit easier.”

130m is really far, and an AR-15 isn’t even a sniper rifle. the fact he hit trump at all is pretty amazing.

IMongoose ,

One report has a cop surprising him too, and he pointed the gun at the cop. So it was turn around for cop > turn back around > aim > fire. I don’t think I’ve seen the time between the cop and firing but I think it was quick. Dude was probably shaking like crazy.

tux7350 ,

Woah, naw 130 meters is not far at all for an AR-15. Max effective range for a point target is 500 meters, meaning you can accurately hit an average sized person at that range. If you have something like a standard issued trijicon ACOG RCO, look at the BDC (Bullet Drop Compensation) lines go all the way to 800m. Interestingly enough too, the width of those lines is the width of an average person’s shoulders at that range.

Waraugh ,

Their comments on the AR accuracy are blowing my mind. I hit all 40 targets and got marksman with the M16 and I never touched a gun before when we went to the range to qualify, a few others did also and everyone hit pretty damn accurately up to 300 yards away all on iron sights. And a properly sighted scope helps significantly, especially if you’ve planned your shot in advance. The only way someone thinks a sniper rifle is needed for those ranges surely has to be ignorant of what it’s like to shoot one of these guns.

BeMoreCareful ,

To be fair, you also had literal professionals teaching you, and armorers prepared the guns.

There are a lot of variables outside of someone freaking out and not knowing how to hold a gun.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0797c99b-4a13-4003-af3c-212f5fc10f82.png

Lightsong ,

Should’ve used a magic bullet.

Jiggle_Physics ,

Also, a local police officer was alerted to him. The cop then went up there, where he says Crooks pointed his rifle at him and he retreated to get help. So this added a bunch of stress and dramatically cut the time frame to take his shot. I think this may have played into the miss, assuming what the cop was reported saying, is what happened

finley ,

i read another post that really pissed me off about the cops’ response. apparently, they saw him scoping out buildings with a rangefinder for a while beforehand, and watched him set up and take the shot without doing much to stop him.

lemm.ee/post/37259086

Ilovethebomb ,

That’s a massive fuckup if there was someone on the roof with a rifle, and that wasn’t communicated to the secret service.

Jiggle_Physics ,

IIRC one saw him up there scoping around, but thought it may be SS, as their plans weren’t well communicated to the lowest ranks, the cops on the ground. However, when other people described him one cop went up there. He started shooting immediately afterward. So he may have notified them ASAP, like on his radio, but it was too late. Crooks spot got blown and it forced him to act.

Or so this seems to be the narrative at this early point

Kusimulkku ,

Funny but doubt that actually happened tbh

some_random_nick ,

Like most stuff on the internet.

samus12345 ,
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Maybe not, but what’s the point in falsely attributing it to someone else instead of just saying it yourself?

Lost_My_Mind ,

The onion just ran an article that stormtroopers were seen fleeing the rally afterwards.

4am ,

Jack Black immediately canceled their collab plans /s

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