return2ozma was right

Stern , 2 days ago

It could have been worse… Joe coulda had a full bluescreen… Coulda been a lot better though.

IMO joe drops a smidge until donny says his newest dumb thing.

themeatbridge , 2 days ago

Donny said a lot of dumb things. His numbers don’t go down. His followers are devoted to him, and we have to beat them because they are horrible people.

Stern , 2 days ago

The cores for both arent changing, just the random independents who will forget this when the next big thing happens.

Neither of them shit their pants or bluescreened, so there wasn’t going to be a serious swing from that debate.

TokenBoomer OP , 1 day ago

These are the people that are worrisome:

Gina Gannon, 65, a retiree in the battleground state of Georgia, voted for Trump in 2016 before ditching him for Biden in 2020.

“Joe Biden looked very weak and confused right from the start. It concerns me that our global enemies see Joe Biden in this manner. I was shocked and dismayed. I hate to see our president acting that way on TV and in front of the world,” Gannon said.

She added: “I am absolutely voting for Donald Trump now.”

Fades , 1 day ago

Oh damn that one lady changed votes (totally believable she walked away from Trump but THIS pushed her back into his hands)?

It’s aLl OvEr!!!

TokenBoomer OP , 1 day ago

Now, multiply her by thousands over 5 swing states. Biden will win the popular vote, but lose the electoral college, just like Hillary. I hope I’m wrong. 😑

EleventhHour , 2 days ago

ITT: the worst users on lemmy debate getting a modicum of attention…

TokenBoomer OP , 2 days ago

In 25 days, you did what took me a year.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/43a9c897-c887-4849-b786-1f3ea80fad95.gif

EleventhHour , 2 days ago

Realizing your shortcomings?

Somehow, I doubt it. I’ve seen your comment history

TokenBoomer OP , 2 days ago

Thanks. ☺️ But, let’s not get sidetracked here, and congratulate return2ozma for being prescient.

EleventhHour , 2 days ago

Opening one’s mouth when they are demonstrably wrong is no grounds for praise.

I guess I just don’t appreciate lies the way you do

TokenBoomer OP , 2 days ago

More like demonstrably right:

Biden’s debate performance sets off alarm bells for Democrats

YeetPics , 2 days ago

Your mouth is agape, ready to receive your foot.

Seriously though, please seek help lmao

return2ozma , 2 days ago

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/174100e2-6530-4738-9578-833fd5cfce4e.jpeg

But seriously, I’m still pissed. I knew it would be bad but I didn’t think it would be THAT bad. If they don’t replace Biden, we will get another Trump presidency. If you think Biden can win after the world saw the debate performance, you’re delusional.

Y’all know I hate Biden but I still hate Trump even more. I don’t know at this point who to replace him with. You can’t replace him with Harris, she’s polling even worse than Biden. Newsom, maybe, but it would fire up Trump’s base even more because of the whole anti-California propaganda. I just don’t know… I hate it here. Whitmer?

TokenBoomer OP , 2 days ago (edited 2 days ago)

How is the best case scenario Joe Biden?

I would enthusiastically vote for Gretchen Whitmer!

return2ozma , 2 days ago

I’m legit at a loss… I just feel numb tonight. Seriously. Like WTF are Dems going to do now?!

TokenBoomer OP , 2 days ago

This debate was great for campaign fundraisers.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1e200852-92ac-4664-8bea-4a8416f06656.jpeg

Fades , 1 day ago

Babby’s first presidential election, how cute

IHeartBadCode , 2 days ago

If they don't replace Biden, we will get another Trump presidency

One, they aren't going to replace Biden. Two, that outcome they aren't entirely concerned about. There's some who look at that and go "Biden couldn't possibly win now" and the thing is there's an insanely small amount of people who are at this point undecided. We could have the election tomorrow and the vast majority of people know which button they are pushing and there is nothing that's changing that outcome.

It's basically Trump vs Harris at this point, but with Biden still being a stand-in, Harris doesn't have to get up there and show how little she can tango with Trump. That would actually move the needle. If Biden started pushing daisies tomorrow that would actually change the calculus.

But this debate, as far as I know, zero people have changed their mind about who they are voting for. The RNC is going to nom a felon. The DNC is going to nom a zombie. Neither group is making sane decisions at this point in time because none of them give a shit. They aren't replacing Biden just like the Republicans aren't replacing Trump. We are all on this short bus full of Senior Citizens to hell for better or worse. Kicking and screaming all along the way, this is who have for November.

If you think Biden can win after the world saw the debate performance, you're delusional.

The DNC brass, they don't care, it's a Tuesday to them if they lose. If Trump gets into power and rounds up all the gay people and shoots them in the head, hey I guess we'll get on that in 2028 or something is what the DNC has to feel about that. It's not that pressing a matter for them. And if Biden wins, the Republicans will just obstruct November 6th, the day after the election, just like they obstructed on January 6th. It is water under a bridge if Trump loses.

You know I heard all this nonsense about "we just need to get Trump out of office" back in 2020. And I knew the day of the 2020 election, Trump isn't going anywhere. If Trump loses 2024, Trump isn't going anywhere. What people ought to be concerned about isn't Trump sticking around, it's when Trump dies off. Because we're not getting rid of the crazy, we're just going to get version 2.0 of the crazy.

The people most affected by whatever outcome happens, those are the ones that are going to take the win or loss the hardest. But the political parties, and especially the RNC and DNC, all of this is just drops of rain on the glass. They are not replacing Biden, that is who we have unless he specifically croaks before we can get to the election.

So if you do not like Trump, you push the Biden button or just stay home. That is the strat here from the DNC. But there's so little undecided here, there is no energy to change course. If say the undecided was like 20%, maybe. But everyone knows whose button they are pushing, these debates aren't going to change that.

If Biden doesn't win in November, Biden wasn't going to win in October of last year. There are zero things either candidate can do that could change some number of people's minds at this point to radically change the outcome of this election. Any everyone is quite aware of this, that's the reason the DNC is going to send in a geriatric senile man and the RNC is going to send in a pompous felon.

The election is already over, we just haven't cast the ballots. The debates are just bread and circus.

The whole thing is from the DNC and RNC perspective is like that Futurama poster, "you gotta do what'cha gotta do." The DNC is NOT replacing Biden unless he literally dies before we get to the election. That is the only way who is on the Democratic ticket changes.

NABDad , 2 days ago (edited 2 days ago)

Biden could probably win by promising to resign after Inauguration Day. I think the devils we know are making the devil we don’t know look attractive.

APassenger , 2 days ago

I’d enjoy Katie Porter. Dunno if she’s ready for something like the presidency, but I’m ready for a president like her.

PenisWenisGenius , 1 day ago

After seeing last night’s debate, we’re doomed. I’m going to stockpile weed and hope we get a 2028 election. Also I’m not cumming in any vaginas since they’re being as bigoted about abortions as ever. Ass is fine.