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tram1 ,

Chromium could be spying on you, as it communicates with google servers. You should use ungoogled-chromium, and hope they did a good job…

spoileror just use Firefox

dhruv ,

That’s kind of awesome actually. I’ve been looking to replace brave for a while now while retaining the chromium feel.

beefcat ,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

Using ungoogled-chromium still contributes to Google’s browser engine monoculture.

Rubezahl ,

Is Brave ok?

CrypticFawn ,
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, it’s a Chromium based browswer.

The swap from Brave to FF is very easy btw. I did several months ago.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

it kinda pisses me off that Chromium is the default browser on Raspbian.

Rodeo ,

I believe it’s because vanilla chromium doesn’t come with widevine or any of the closed source DRM binaries. Raspberry Pi org takes a pretty strong stance on open source.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah, still doesn’t mean that if I set up a raspbian desktop system I don’t install firefox.

Rodeo ,

It’s the first thing I install too lol

vreraan ,

After the quantum update i switched to firefox, as now in performance it is almost on par with chrome or sometimes better.

schrodingers_dinger ,

I remember I switched to chrome way back when chrome was first becoming popular because of its speed compared to Firefox in like 2010 or something. Firefox caught up within a year and I have never missed Chrome for a second.

sheilzy ,

Oh, I was similar. When Chrome was new I liked it, but it seems to be vulnerable to get these weird superfluous add-ons that I may have acquired through malicious links. When I switched to Firefox I wasn’t as suseptible to malware, and the speed was just as good.

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

websites not supporting firefox is the site’s fault, not the browser’s. firefox is not some niche browser. almost every website i have used is fine on firefox, and when it rarely doesnt work (usually bc i have a configured librewolf), i just open brave or whatever.

soviettaters ,

I just use chrome when it doesn’t work since it’s such a rare occurrence. There is no reason for me to use chrome on a daily basis.

atyaz ,

Not everyone has this luxury, but I just close the website and never use it. So far, I haven’t run into anything major that doesn’t work with firefox, so this strategy has been working for me so far.

b3nsn0w ,
@b3nsn0w@pricefield.org avatar

i’d recommend using edge there instead of chrome, because it’s the same browser and google is legitimately less trustworthy than microsoft at this point. neither of these companies are the same that they were in the early 2000s, for better or worse

magiccupcake ,

I occasionally switch to chrome as a troubleshooting step when a website doesnt work, and it rarely is firefox the problem.

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Netscape Navigator?

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

Which got forked to become Firefox

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Netscape was itself a development from Mosaic, which also spun off into what became internet explorer.

so firefox and Internet Explorer (up to around ie6 at least) are kinda weird cousins.

Stan ,
@Stan@lemmywinks.com avatar

This sounds wrong. Wasn’t there some big lawsuit between Microsoft and Netscape?

This whole thing about MS claiming they couldn’t decouple their web browser from their operating system?

donnnnnnb ,

Checkout the SeaMonkey project. Uses Firefox’s engine but looks and feels just like the Netscape/Mozilla suite.

Skkorm ,

Firefox rules, people need to smarten up. Hell, Firefox on Android has an Adblock extension. Firefox is what’s up.

sky ,

The issue for me with Firefox on Android is it would sometimes refuse to load pages when switching back after being suspended from the background and I have no clue why. I’d have to open a new tab and copy the URL to force it to load and it was so frustrating.

I use Brave now (with the promotional stuff off, even though I still don’t fully trust them), since it seems to be the only other ad-blocking browser on Android that’s even decently easy to use. However, I still use Firefox on Windows with tree style tabs and raindrop.io to sync bookmarks, both of which are god tier productivity tools.

minikieff ,

I get this issue every now and then with Chrome.

HRDS_654 ,

It’s also as fast, if not faster, than Chrome now.

ahriboy ,

Is Firefox for Android getting faster as expected? Last time, it seems very slow. I might switch back from Vivaldi if tests seem very well.

dditty , (edited )

I recently switched to Firefox Nightly on Android and haven’t noticed it being any slower than the previous chromium browser I was using. I did opt to forgo the Dark Reader add-on for it though since that was slowing down webpage rendering a bit.

Naz ,

I recently switched from Opera to Firefox.

I was getting 59 FPS average in Opera, full bore 165 FPS / Hz in Firefox.

I didn’t -want- to switch but it’s objectively faster, especially on Linux.

eatsnutellawivaspoon ,

There’s a work around for Firefox nightly that allows installation of any add-on too, eg sponsor block.

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

The fact that it needs a workaround is still bullshit.

Delusion6903 ,

No work around is needed. You can install a very limited number of extensions on Firefox mobile and they are the ones you want the most. This includes uBlock Origen.

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

hey are the ones **you **want the most

You don’t know which extensions I want most. I want:

  • uBlock Origin ✅
  • Consent-o-Matic ❌ - but the sort of thing they might eventually add to the blessed list with enough begging
  • Bypass Paywalls ⛔ - Mozilla will never recommend this or even distribute it on its addons site

3-4 years ago, I could install any extension I wanted. I reject their stated reasons for barring me from doing so (security, stability - those are on me once I start installing unsupported add-ons) and use Kiwi Browser instead.

Thulcander ,

does android firefox have a desktop mode for tablets / dex?

Clbull ,

I think a lot of people turned away from Firefox after that Mr Robot promotional ‘stunt’ they pulled.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot ,

What stunt?

AssPennies ,

Here you go.

Mozilla thought it would be cool to install a Mr Robot addon as a paid stunt, didn’t go over well.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot ,

Typical Mozilla trying to push things nobody wants (e.g. Pocket)

JargonWagon ,

I’m out of the loop on this one. What happened in Mr. Robot?

18_24_61_b_17_17_4 ,
@18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world avatar

Wondering this as well.

Stan ,
@Stan@lemmywinks.com avatar

Didn’t they have some anti-gay-marriage CEO for a while?

_donnadie_ ,
@_donnadie_@feddit.cl avatar

Yeah, they had. Now he’s the one that works on Brave afaik.

GenBlob ,
@GenBlob@lemmy.world avatar

I use firefox for obvious privacy reasons but also because I can customize the UI. Chromium’s interface is oversized, ugly, and locked down while on firefox I can change any aspect of it using my own CSS.

Karyoplasma ,

I initially read your comment as “I use firefox for obvious piracy reasons” and thought “yeah, that’s fair”.

SuperSpruce ,

How are you doing this? Firefox’s stock UI is even more oversize than Chrome’s and they are actively removing customization options to the UI.

only0218 ,

I see furryfox, I vote up.

Pawan123 ,
@Pawan123@lemmy.world avatar

Firefox’s supremacy 😆

dustojnikhummer ,

It unironically has to be Chromium

OrnateLuna ,

But like why?

dustojnikhummer ,

PWAs, UI, general performance (I don’t care "it’s not the fault of the browser), dislike of Mozilla

And a small fuck you to other bots here.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Lynx

Stan ,
@Stan@lemmywinks.com avatar

wget

iusearchbtw ,

I compiled wget from source

confusedbytheBasics ,

But did you compile your compiler from source? And did you compile the compiler you compiled the compiler with from source?

iusearchbtw ,

Yes

confusedbytheBasics ,

I seriously doubt that. Are you running a fully self compiled GNU Guix install or something?

iusearchbtw ,

Went there - LFS is also very nice :)

confusedbytheBasics ,

Does LFS have stage0 hex0 instructions now? How long did that take?

schmensch ,

Carrier Pigeons

CriticalMiss ,

Ungoogled Chromium exists but it just feels 1/10 of what Firefox is capable of doing.

HiddenLayer5 ,

There is also UnMozilla’d Firefox for even more privacy!

SmoothSurfer ,

You mean like icecat, librefox or using user.js

KSPAtlas ,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Is Fennec on Android like that? Still developed by Mozilla, but has all branding, telemetry and firefox-account stuff removed (even comes with duckduckgo as default search engine)

HiddenLayer5 , (edited )

I think Fennec F-Droid is a straight re-compile of the official Android app with binary blobs removed. So technically it is the actual open source version. Firefox telemetry is open source (at least on the client side) so wasn’t in the scope of that, but there are certainly variants that remove that as well.

KSPAtlas ,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Good to know

gaybear ,

Last time I tried Ungoogled Chromium, it was a pain in the ass to install add-ons, that might have changed but back then I had to download and install extensions by hand, I don’t know if it’s still the same process nowadays.

TheInsane42 ,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

Now I’m getting curious about the vivaldi browser. It’s chromium based (apart from firefox, what isn’t) but seems pretty security/privacy aware.

theshatterstone54 ,

It’s not fully open source, but it’s so good, it’s full of features, incredibly customisable, it really is a power user browser.

glacier ,
@glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It overheats my MacBook and runs like shit on my windows desktop. and frankly too many features for me that I would never use.

TheInsane42 ,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

Biggest advantage it has over FF is the dark mode option you have to overrule even websites and make them dark. FF has dark reader plugin, but that is a pale replacement for vivaldi’s built-in experimental code.

alsaaas ,
@alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

it’s proprietary and thus not viable for any privacy conscious person. (assuming they know to trust as few third parties as possible)

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