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Bobmighty ,

Are people still into arguing about what this dead 80s superstar did? I don’t know. I think it’s kinda baity.

ZILtoid1991 ,

Hee hee

13esq ,

Anyone who thinks Jackson wasn’t a pedophile is willfully blind.

Being a great artist doesn’t stop you from being a very sick man. His upbringing certainly is an extenuating circumstance, but it doesn’t change the nature of his relationships with young boys.

dependencyinjection ,

Is there a single viable claim against him?

From what I recall it was parents trying ton get money and nobody confirmed he abused them, even McAuley Cullen.

13esq ,

Leaving Neverland g.co/kgs/8Bqcp49

I watched this not just with an open mind, but like many others here, with the mind that people were colluding to extortionate money from Jackson. This completely changed my mind.

I mean, I get it. If one of my favourite artists was accused of being a pedo, I’d defend them and say the claims can’t be proven etc. In this case, I think it’s safe to say that whilst he wasn’t a full blown child rapist, that he clearly had an attraction to young boys.

Kazumara ,

by all accounts

Wouldn’t that include the aforementioned documentaries?

rockerface ,

I think the whole spawning demons with his blood thing might have been the reason

SynopsisTantilize ,

Wut

disguy_ovahea ,

I agree. Also, he was acquitted on all counts.

Not only was he one of the best performers, he was also an incredible composer. He heard “Beat It” in his head so clearly, he recorded a demo of the whole song using an 8 channel mixer and cassette.

michaeljackson.com/…/listen-to-michael-jacksons-b…

Ilovethebomb ,

There’s a good chance he really was innocent, but being weird around kids like that is enough to tank your career regardless, which is probably for the best.

Wanderer , (edited )

He made himself white.

Imagine the fallout if they all did that.

Edit:fuck you’re all boring on here.

Nomad ,

The man had Vitiligo, his skin literally bleached itself.

Tarquinn2049 ,

He likely did have vitiligo, but as far as I know, it doesn’t lighten all your skin gradually and evenly. I don’t know if he did do something about it on purpose. You’d think if he did, at least some other people with vitiligo might choose the same option…

But either way, I don’t begrudge him the choice if it was something he did to deal with vitiligo. Honestly, I don’t know if I would begrudge him the choice even if he didn’t have vitiligo. It would certainly be an odd choice, with some social consequences, but it would be his choice.

His skin changing to white was only part of it too, he also had plastic surgery to make his facial features shaped more in-line with facial features common to white skinned populaces. His nose infamously took too much work to get the way he wanted it and ended up with problems later. Could be entirely co-incidental that the plastic surgery he wanted happened to make him look more like someone that was born genetically white skinned…

But taken together, it does seem pretty likely he wanted to identify as white.

If that was the most noteworthy thing about him, people would probably have been upset for a while, but got over it at some point. I mean “Black Alien” has certain done more to purposefully change his appearance and while we see him pop up on the internet every now and then, we tend to go back to fogetting he exists between mentions.

But Michael Jackson is noteworthy for reasons that would hold just as much merit if that part of his life completely never happened.

I, for one, am not convinced of any of the pedophilia stuff, but alot of people are. To me, the descriptions of activities the kids gave sounds so much more like a stunted childhood than anything sexual. But, assuming they were true, it’s much closer, but still wouldn’t be the most noteworthy thing about him.

He was just that much better than the next closest musician. That he could get through both those news stories coming up all the time, and still have most people think positively of him.

june ,
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He never identified as white, he was proud of being black. His facial surgeries weren’t about looking more white, but more beautiful, which due to white supremacy culture includes characteristics you could describe as white but not very accurately.

He used a skin whitening cream to even out his skin tone, because there was no skin darkening cream. It’s medically possible to destroy melanin but not to easily replace it. The vitiligo comes in in spots from my understanding.

SharkEatingBreakfast ,
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His facial surgeries weren’t about looking more white, but more beautiful, which due to white supremacy culture includes characteristics you could describe as white but not very accurately.

Notable absolute completely irredeemable piece-of-shit Joe Jackson’s constant abuse of Michael, that also included comments about his looks, specifically his “black nose”, also had something to do with it.

TachyonTele ,

If all who did what?

ma1w4re ,

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Aussiemandeus ,
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Haha I live in a majorly aboriginal town being aboriginal myself and honestly it’s a shit show.

But your comment made me imagine me my family and everyone around wearing trousers and shirts watering our lawns with picket fences haha

Really tickles me

Wanderer ,

You Aussie cunts are all right. Think there too many yanks on here that are allergic to fun.

SynopsisTantilize ,

Lol pdiddy showing up to trial white like nothing’s wrong or changed.

“Ayo your hono-ahem… Good afternoon your Honor” lol

nick ,

My guess is: the pedophilia. Just a guess though.

LowleeKun ,

Did he ever get convicted over anything? Even though i won’t say he was not a pedophile, is there actually any evidence that he was? Are people really that needy for hate?

I had a roommate who was actually hating on me for listening to micheal jackson for that “reason”. Back then i sadly was afraid enough to even “associate” with a person “like that” via listening to his music. Pathetic, i know.

I wish he was still alive.

TachyonTele ,

Nope. And the kids all say he never did anything sexual. He was just a very talented strange guy with serious issues from growing up.

Sanctus ,
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Well, y’know, Anon. There was some other stuff.

Redredme ,

What stuff?

Please show us something, anything.

Was he weird? Fuck yes. Was he a pedo: acquitted on all accounts. So hell no.

Sanctus ,
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https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/be0715eb-95ee-45df-8c64-5d11f5fb8206.jpeg

unexposedhazard ,

I mean you should know better than thinking that pedos being acquitted means something. If we have learned anything from Epstein, its that famous pedos and powerful people like to mingle.

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