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wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s Usenet babe. Get this… it’s been around since 1980! Isn’t that wild, babe? It just goes to show, if a distribution system isn’t broke, don’t fix it.

kasuaaliucceli ,

Hahah I was gonna come mention Usenet but glad you already did.

A month ago I was frustrated waiting on some torrent and decided to finally give Usenet a try. All I gotta say is - why didn’t I do this switch years ago???

Sat ,

How do you get a provider though?

kasuaaliucceli ,

Yeah there was a lot of googling duckduckgoing at first. In my case I decided to start out with NewsHosting as provider and nzbgeek as indexer. So far so good

Evotech ,

Because they usually cost money

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yearly rates for a provider and 2 indexers still doesn’t come close to the cost of all the streaming subscriptions you’d need to have the same library access. Coupled with the ability to use RSS feeds and other homelab services to essentially automate your collection, it’s just absolutely worth every penny.

But I wouldn’t know firsthand, because I’m a law abiding citizen, and this is all hypothetical. I just read about it on the internet somewhere.

Evotech ,

Comparing to torrents

Pringles ,

With usenet you’re not a distributor.

dwindling7373 ,

You say that as if it was a plus…

Laser ,

I mean you can be if you want

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Usenet via SSL, with a provider that doesn’t log, over torrents any day. The anonymity level, speed, and retention is all worth it.

Honytawk ,

But they still are more expensive than torrents

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So use torrents and get ridiculed by your date.

kasuaaliucceli ,

Oh yeah true, I kinda forgot about that since I’ve been so excited with the results :)

ryannathans ,

Shit goes missing after like a year

kasuaaliucceli ,

IIRC that might have been the reason I previously disregarded the idea of trying Usenet. However if it’s not on Usenet, one can always fall back to torrents :p Haven’t had to do that yet. knocks on wood

threeduck ,
@threeduck@aussie.zone avatar

“Who is it?”

threeganzi , (edited )

What goes missing? You I don’t know how Usenet works.

Edit: edited to say I don’t know instead of you.

ryannathans ,

The files are not stored indefinitely, retention is based on the provider

MrNobody ,

Retention for 90%+ of providers is at least 4500 days for binary files and 110000 days for newsgroups. Have two providers, one monthly and one block, that run on different backbones with one that takes down for dmca and one that doesn’t and you’ll be fine. There are very very very few shows or movies that you can’t get. Don’t have to worry about VPN, ratios, trackers or any of that other crap.

ryannathans ,

That’s cool, retention a lot better now than like 10 or 20 years ago

Honytawk ,

So movies from 2011 and before can not be found?

threeganzi ,

Thanks! And sorry, I meant to say that I don’t know how Usenet works, not you.

Follow-up question. Why is retention so important? Wouldn’t they get reuploaded again? Or is it mainly a problem for more obscure content.

ryannathans ,

Torrents persist until all seeders disappear for good, which is rare on private trackers. On usenet generally content is uploaded ASAP upon release and then only lasts as long as rentention. Maybe you’ll get rereleases on usenet but it didn’t seem to be a common occurance

Agathon ,
@Agathon@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Anon needs Jellyfin.

user224 , (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I prefer NGINX with autoindex. Lightweight, no JavaScript, looks like every Linux ISO mirror, filenames already have all the required info, can be quickly searched with CTRL+F, fits perfectly to my laziness.

If you want some improvement, you can use FancyIndex module.

But the files need to be in codecs supported by your browser(s). I prefer AV1+Opus in WebM container which have been supported by Firefox for a while. At this point it’s really only Safari not fully supporting AV1 because it relies on hardware decoding and Apple wants you to buy new hardware.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein , (edited )

Sorry, your favorite media server is just files you play on a browser?

I mean, not shaming, I just had never heard of that being preferable to Plex/Emby/Jellyfin.

currycourier ,

Kinda based tho tbh

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“If it works, it ain’t stupid” ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

BruceTwarzen ,

It can definitely work and be stupid

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah, I am too lazy to set up something like Jellyfin. It only makes sense for me with music, for which I use Navidrome. But again, my setup is mostly directory/filename based, so it’s really being carried with m3u playlists as opposed to proper metadata.

I mean, maybe I’ll use Jellyfin if I’ll do something in a proper way, but currently I don’t see the point of it. And anyway, I can always copy the URLs to VLC, which will even accept DVD ISO files.
e.g.:


<span style="color:#323232;">vlc --no-dvdnav-menu http/dvdnav://192.168.49.1:8080/media/ISOs/Interstellar.iso
</span>

let’s me play entire copy of a DVD, properly with menus and bonus features, just as if I used the DVD directly.

Although I don’t do this anymore because of storage limitations, but I’ll likely return back to it once I’ll have a proper media server and LAN.

thanks_shakey_snake ,

That’s absolutely ridiculous. I’m into it.

ricecake ,

The biggest issue with that is it requires all of your media to be in a flat folder for search to work right.

Auto index has a mode to return results in json. With a touch of html and js you can make a page that will crawl the directory tree and build a simple searchable cache of name to path, and then you can play it from there. It ends up making a request per folder, but in realistic terms it’s not gonna be enough to actually be noticable.

You can then use something like this on a cron to convert anything your browser can’t play and you’re pretty close to a minimalist media server with only static files.
The one I used to use was just a bash script so I didn’t have to wrangle python modules, but I can’t seem to find it.

I ended up dropping it when I bought a nas with all that stuff built in and it generally made my life easier. Worth the money if you can afford it.

tan00k ,

Do you just remember where you are in every show (or movie that you only partway watched)? That’s the biggest appeal of jellyfin/plex to me, so I can go in and continue from where I left off without keeping track.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I always finish them.

tan00k ,

You always finish an entire TV series?

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Not a series, but then yes, I remember where I ended. Or I can just write it on a note if the series is still being made and it will take some time.

Ilovethebomb ,

Yarr matey, we be sailin the high seas alone this fine evenin.

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