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FeelzGoodMan420 , (edited )

I have a simple solution to all of this. Just simply don’t read video game news articles. You’re welcome. But seriously, all of these “game journalism” sites are just AI garbage at this point. Just go on discord and talk to real people about games, or watch a digital foundry video. Like i have literally never heard of this “controversy” until reading this post. It’s just simply not on my radar. Idk why people even engage with this nonsense. I don’t watch influencers. I don’t have social media. I NEVER have to see this dogshit unless it comes up here on Lemmy lol.

Edit: downvoted for not wanting to pay attention to stupid controversy about video games? Weird…

StoneyDcrew ,

Edit: downvoted for not wanting to pay attention to stupid controversy about video games? Weird…

It’s one thing to live peacefully in ignorance. I get it. it is exhausting keeping track of every shitty thing a company does when it’s so much easier at the end of an exhausting 9-5 shift to avoid news and play your games guilt free without thinking about who it’s hurting.

It’s a completely separate thing to brag that your ignorance somehow makes your way of life superior.

People caring about these issues, and sometimes leading to actions being taken because of that, all makes the gaming industry, or to be hyberbolic; the world a better place.

It’s fine to avoid news on controversy and just blindly enjoy games, but don’t lie to yourself (and others) by pretending that it is a good thing.

Coelacanth ,
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The dev has a storied past^[1] of sexism and misogyny, so this shouldn’t come as a surprise. The COVID stuff is amusing but unsurprising considering it’s a Chinese studio.

TimLovesTech ,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

Reading through that made me feel gross. It does seem to be acknowledged by women in China as a cultural issue (as well as globally online).

Sexism is, and continues to be, a global problem. But the difference, as both Zhong and Monica F. pointed out, is that the Chinese government and overall cultural attitudes continue to actively discourage women and their allies from fighting back. There’s no one telling harassers “no.”

turmacar ,

This feels like the second round of this going around as the AI articles / lazy sites pick it up.

It’s a doc ‘sent’ to one guy who had 12 followers on medium before this started blowing up. It was edited after it was sent out to be the real marketing email of the company instead of a gmail address. The doc is still owned by that gmail account, which isn’t typically how companies operate.

I guess they’re getting their viral moment so good for them for generating content?

Chee_Koala ,

Hahahaha, wow, what a bunch of wet noodles. If you don’t want negative discourse, maybe don’t be misogynistic. Or don’t publish your work in countries where free speech and personal freedoms are more abundant. No one is forcing you to publish here, so please keep your demands in your pants. Pffft, I was really interested in this game, now it’s such an easy pass!

batcheck ,

Out of curiosity, since I’m out of the loop, what is the misogynistic discourse around the game or studio? Is it based on themes of the books/mythology the game is based on? Or is it some other thing the devs went too far with eastern culture wise?

Chee_Koala ,

I read some articles from 2020 that touched on the culture @ Game Science, but it doesn’t even really matter. It’s just the way they single out stuff that feels really put of touch, pretty (ignorant) boomer attitude. I’ve only heard the word “feminist propaganda” from folks who are misogynistic, it’s not something I associate with caring about inequality. Can you imagine being a woman influencer that got this message? I would think 3 times before partnering up with a party that gave me this dos and don’t list.

It’s probably something that can be attributed to cultural differences, but that doesn’t mean that much to me. You move in a culture, but you are still responsible for you actions and words.

Eyck_of_denesle ,

The game is insane. You are just missing out.

Chee_Koala ,

Thanks a lot, I can imagine! It’s moot for me, sadly. Google maps is amazing too but I’m not on board with choices they are making so, can’t use that either. There’s enough games to take my mind of of missing this title. Have fun though!

Eyck_of_denesle ,

Understandable but i feel it’s ok cause one is a product and the other a live service. But you still have to pay the scummy company money so very understandable.

LucidBoi ,

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

Eyck_of_denesle ,

Denuvo 😓

AmidFuror ,

Are analogies using A.A. Milne characters OK for describing the game?

Rentlar ,

Oh bother…

PunchingWood ,

I’m not sure how that’s supposed to be relevant to the game and reviews of it anyway?

Virkkunen ,
@Virkkunen@fedia.io avatar

The studio and the CEO have a history of misoginy and sexism, so they're trying to block reviewers to speak about it

PunchingWood ,

Well that explains something, but honestly it has nothing to do with the actual game itself. Would be kinda weird if reviewers focused on that instead of the game.

tja ,
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Yes, who cares if Putin releases a game as long as it’s good?

PunchingWood , (edited )

Did he release this game?

Considering the downvotes I take that as a no, and ya’ll ran out of other dumb arguments. 🙄

TimLovesTech , (edited )
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For anyone not clicking thru:

In full, the don’ts are:

  • Do NOT insult other influencers or players.
  • Do NOT use any offensive language/humour.
  • Do NOT include politics, violence, nudity, feminist propaganda, fetishisation, and other content that instigates negative discourse.
  • Do NOT use trigger words such as ‘quarantine’ or ‘isolation’ or ‘Covid-19’.
  • Do NOT discuss content related to China’s game industry policies, opinions, news, etc.

I see this as them wanting influencers to focus on their game, instead of using the game as a platform to wade into these other topics that focus on the country they happen to live in. And this being an election year in the US ,and the Right having spread wild conspiracy theories about China for years now, them not wanting any of that stuff to overshadow their art doesn’t seem all that crazy of a take. Basically they are saying they want influencers to talk about the game and to leave politics to /c/politics.

Oh and this is of course only sent to influencers, so just people they are giving the game to for free. The rest of the world (including influencers that buy their own copy) are of course free to do whatever they are legally allowed to in their jurisdiction.

Edit - I just want to add an edit after reading the IGN article someone linked above, that I am not siding with or defending any of the gross things coming from people working at this studio. And I guess this would come down to if people can separate the art from the artist, which I personally struggle with in many instances.

Jaderick ,

The use of “feminist propaganda” over “misogyny” seems very deliberate.

tja ,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, because it seems the studio doesn’t have any problem with misogyny

TimLovesTech ,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

Oh for sure. I do wonder what part the Chinese government takes in shaping the wording of “exports” like this too.

NocturnalMorning ,

I was excited to play this game until I saw this. Now I kinda don’t want to play it.

atro_city ,

What is "feminist propaganda" and what would COVID-19 have anything to do with the game? What would either of those have to do with the game? Isn't it based on the legend of the monkey king? Are they afraid they'll make a meme of him spreading COVID to kill his enemies or something?

TimLovesTech ,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

In the conspiracy theories groups China is a hot topic, and I believe this is them telling influencers (who they give a free copy) to stick to the game instead of talking about the country they happen to live in. And I would assume if people stuck to the game few of these topics would be relevant.

Now if an influencer had an issue with say, allegations misogyny at the studio, I would expect them to -

  1. not accept the game from the studio
  2. maybe create content on why they refused the offer of a free game and things they think would need to change to allow them to work with the studio in the future.
Rentlar ,

The guidelines are also likely in place to avoid mention of previous reports of misogyny at the studio. Posts from Game Science CEO Féng Jì including sexualised and misogynistic language were reported on in 2020, while IGN also reported on the studio’s history with sexism.

Lol, a Streisand effect here.

smeg ,

However, it’s clear Game Science, through Hero Games, is keen to control the narrative around Black Myth: Wukong to avoid negative coverage and ensure focus is on the game itself.

Given that this is the first I’ve heard of this game and I know nothing about the game itself, I feel they’ve shot themselves in the foot a little, eh?

rickdg ,
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excuse me wtf

style99 ,

Funny how quickly free speech drops dead whenever right-wing snowflakes get involved.

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