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Deadlock (Valve's Unannounced Title) Passes 12k Peak Players in Closed Alpha

steamdb.info/app/1422450/charts/

Valve keeping up with the trend of “worst kept secrets”. You need an invite to join the alpha but since everyone who owns it can refer their friends, it spread very quickly.

I’ve been playing it the past few days and it’s honestly very fun. Still a bit rough around the edges (especially in terms of balance) since it’s in early access, but it has serious potential to be dota 2 levels of popular.

For the unaware, Deadlock is a 3rd person shooter MOBA. It feels like a mix of Dota and Overwatch/Team Fortress. Nobody is allowed to share footage or screenshots, but obviously with so many playing there’s a ton of leaks out there.

Picture of 12k player peak on steamcharts
woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Somebody needs to tell the games team that they make their own operating system. This is Windows-only. WTF.

Virkkunen ,
@Virkkunen@fedia.io avatar

Runs perfectly fine on Linux though, with DX11 or Vulkan. On Windows, Vulkan has some performance issues that make it quite unenjoyable, but in Linux for me it plays a lot better with Vulkan than Windows DX11.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Runs perfectly fine on Linux though

The quality of Proton is not the point, the point is that they’re not dogfooding their own platform. They’ll likely follow the same course as CS2: Lengthy prerelease test exclusively on Windows, then a few days before actual release someone will port the game to Linux/SteamOS and release day is the first day of the Linux port’s alpha test.

How can anybody at Valve expect game publishers to take Steam Deck and SteamOS seriously if the developer of the actual platform is not dogfooding it with their own games?

Virkkunen ,
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Yeah I get what you mean, but with Linux gaming I think it's great enough that it runs with Proton and no one is blocking it. I also believe they'll port it to native Linux after the alpha stage is done, but remember that the game is in a closed alpha state, so at no point this should be taken as "Valve not dogfooding their platform". All we can do right now is wait and see.

woelkchen ,
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with Linux gaming I think it’s great enough that it runs with Proton and no one is blocking it.

You clearly missed many news from the gaming sphere.

remember that the game is in a closed alpha state, so at no point this should be taken as “Valve not dogfooding their platform

Yes, it is. Sony is developing their games for PlayStation first and Windows as an afterthought. I’m not saying that Windows should be an afterthought but SteamOS should be a development target from day 1.

All we can do right now is wait and see.

Grab your Steam Deck, install Counter-Strike 2, and look at the state of Source2 games right now.

BaroqueInMind ,

It’s almost as if they are a for-profit company that doesn’t want to waste development time on an OS that have significantly fewer players to sell to and will choose to optimize for Linux as an afterthought.

I use Arch, btw and play only on Linux, so I’m not being biased, just speaking truths.

Virkkunen ,
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I wouldn't say that's the case because it's Valve, and they work on a very unique way. Besides, the work they did with Proton, SteamOS and Steam Deck shows that at no point they believe developing for Linux is waste of efforts or an afterthought. They go out of the usual way to make things better for Linux. I fully expect them to port Deadlock to Linux once it hits beta or release.

woelkchen ,
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I fully expect them to port Deadlock to Linux once it hits beta or release.

Like CS2 that has severe bugs on Steam Deck to this day? www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PycIuATXaw

woelkchen ,
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It’s almost as if they are a for-profit company that doesn’t want to waste development time on an OS that have significantly fewer players to sell to and will choose to optimize for Linux as an afterthought.

Yeah, why would Nintendo develop for Switch or Sony for PlayStation when it’s clearly a waste of development time and and money and Windows is clearly the superior development target?

I’m not being biased, just speaking truths.

No, you speak nothing of truth regarding game development has a platform holder.

skulblaka ,
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Yeah but Valve, who is making this game, made SteamOS and the Steam Deck in house. It’s their own product. It would be a monumentally stupid move to release a first party game that doesn’t run on their own first party hardware.

mox , (edited )

I’m with you in principle, but I think it’s unlikely that Valve are building the game themselves. I expect their first priorities were finding a development studio capable producing a good game, and helping them to do so. If that studio’s developers are most familiar with Windows tools and APIs, then the path to a successful game would be letting them use those, at least to begin with.

Let’s just hope that they’re being guided along to way toward design decisions that make a native port relatively easy if the game turns out to be good.

woelkchen ,
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If that studio’s developers are most familiar with Windows tools and APIs, then the path to a successful game would be letting them use those, at least to begin with.

So you’re saying, if Sony or Nintendo made a new console and contracted an outside developer, that developer should develop for Windows instead of the new consoles because they are unfamiliar with the new tools and APIs? Why even develop using Source Engine (2)? Why not also give in to a total Unreal Engine monopoly because that’s what every game developer knows? CS2 on Steam Deck is bad right now.

mox , (edited )

No, that is not what I said at all. Either you’ve misunderstood, or you’re arguing in bad faith. Given that you’re now pushing an unrealistic all-or-nothing point of view and putting words in my mouth, I think it’s some of both.

themusicman ,

Valve is absolutely developing this game themselves

bionicjoey ,

For the unaware, Deadlock is a 3rd person shooter MOBA. It feels like a mix of Dota and Overwatch/Team Fortress

So like SMITE?

TheCreeperFace ,
@TheCreeperFace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

from the 1 video I saw more like Paladins with Smite item shop

simple OP ,

Not really, SMITE is a moba that happens to be 3rd person, Deadlock actually plays like a 3rd person shooter that needs proper aiming and headshots and a much faster pace.

bionicjoey ,

I see. This is probably a pretty niche reference nowadays, but is it more similar to Monday Night Combat? That was an actual shooter IIRC and had moba mechanics like lanes and creeps.

Virkkunen ,
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It's actually closer to Battleborn. Like the other commenter said, it's more of a third person shooter with MOBA elements. There's focus on movement (you can dash, double jump, crouch slide, some characters fly), headshots and distance change the damage and melee/parry are just a button, while every character has guns as their man attack means. For the moba elements, it changes a bit since there's 4 lanes and it's a 6x6.

ludicolo ,

Been playing it, it’s actually really fun!

catloaf ,

I will give you one (1) good vibe in exchange for an invitation

themusicman ,
BuboScandiacus ,
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Dequei ,
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Heyyyy buddyyys!

Luci ,
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Friends! Pals! Fellow lemmy users!

simple OP ,

Shot you a message.

Zoidsberg ,
@Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar

I love your personality and think we could be great friends, too.

LolcatXTREME ,

Is there a limit to referrals?…

simple OP ,

I think so, but it doesn’t say how many you get.

sxt ,

If you’ve got an extra still I’d be down

chronicledmonocle ,

Same here. I’d love to see what Valve have been up to.

exorcism895 ,

I’ve been looking for something fun to play, so if there’s still an invite available, I’d be game.

Hellstormy ,
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Same here! :)

Statick ,

Would love an invite if you don’t mind!

Blisterexe ,

Wait how can i refer friends?

Coelacanth , (edited )
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Reminds me of the old Dota 2 closed beta days… Good times. Also on an unrelated note, if anyone has a spare invite my DMs are open.

DScratch ,

I slept on my DOTA2 invite and only years later dumped 3k hours into it.

I won’t make that mistake again, given the chance.

Coelacanth ,
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I remember playing Dota 1 and 2 in parallel for a while because so few heroes were in the beta and I wanted to play new hotness like Ember Spirit. Fun times.

Quitting Dota has been great for my mental health, though. But I guess I’m at least curious enough about what the frog is cooking to risk getting addicted to something new.

EarMaster ,

As you got invited by OP would you mind sharing your invites too? Asking for a friend me.

BuboScandiacus ,
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I don’t have the game yet. It used to be instantaneous but now it may take several days according to some people on the internet

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

Thats a shame… gives us time to become your friend though, right? I heard you enjoy games

qooqie ,

Icefrog is an extremely talented dev so this game is for sure to be real fun. I trust in the frog as a life long dota player

catloaf ,

I’d like to give it a try. Anyone got an invite?

themusicman ,
doodledup ,

They are trying to build hype. The leaks are intentional and expected.

gibmiser ,

Hype trains a comin

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