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steeznson ,

One of the DF guys was pointing out recently that all of these handheld PCs have names like 90s graphics cards

random_character_a , (edited )
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All the other manufacturers seem to see linux based OS as a weakness. I see it as a necessity. Why would I want more MS bs, if I don’t need to run 3D Max, MagiCAD or some god awful DRM raped software on my system.

I’m happy to skip some AAA games for using proton and I did skip all exclusives from Ubisoft and Epic well before the Deck.

Carighan ,
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Why would I wan’t more MS bs, if I don’t need to run 3D Max, MagiCAD or some god awful DRM raped software on my system.

Ignoring your eloquent wording, you want Windows - from the perspective of a device maker - because it ensures the easiest access for your buyers.

That’s a non-trivial point that should not be easily dismissed. Virtually everyone games on Windows. Virtually all PC-bound games are primarily developed for and optimized for Windows. If you make a hardware device, and you do get to pick the main OS you ship with, making it Windows ensures both maximum compatibility and a smooth transition from their desk-bound gaming to their handheld for your users as the UX is the exact same.

Sure, to power users is a downside. But those are also the ones who will figure out how to run whatever OS they like on it, and they’re also a very small number to begin with. While the Steam Deck and other handheld PCs before it were okay as power-user-centric devices, if this device type is going to be truly mainstream in a post-Steam-Deck world, then something like basing them on Windows by default is a quite real considering for a device maker, and a very natural one.

random_character_a ,
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Systems that attract power users tend to have better 3rd party tools and plugins for everyones use.

LunchEnjoyer ,
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I do not see a good reason to get this over the Steam Deck.

simple ,

It just makes noooo sense to me that it can go up to 45 watts. I would be surprised if the battery drains from 100% in 20 minutes.

The MSI claw as a whole doesn’t seem to have any benefits to what already exists. It draws more power, is heavier than the ROG and Steam Deck, starts at $700… I guess the 120Hz screen is nice, but everyone knows you’ll barely hit 60 on any modern games.

themoonisacheese ,
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The steam deck can drain that fast (for example when I played H:zd I basically had to be plugged in the whole time) but I doubt you’d even hit the same performance per watt with an Intel part. You’re essentially paying 20% more for a worse product, and I’m not even gonna get into MSI support, especially given how nice valve support is.

Kidplayer_666 ,

Meh, for me it makes sense if it’s plugged into the wall. Also with a 50Wh battery it should last an hour in such a mode

Darorad ,

That’s just the soc wattage though, the screen would also take up a substantial portion of the battery

Carighan ,
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The Lenovo with its mouse-like input is still the most interesting to me, next ot the Steam Deck with its dual pad inputs.

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