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PugJesus ,

Hell yeah!

buddascrayon ,

Way to fucking jinx it.

Netrunner ,
@Netrunner@programming.dev avatar

Still hang around both. But I’ve noticed I’ve had more to engage with on Lemmy lately, which is great.

no_comment ,
meep_launcher ,

I’m doing my part!

set_secret ,

I’ve found I’ve been blocked on world news for posting comments againts fascist ideas. I’ve been shadow banned from world news for posting comprehensive evidence of china’s crimes against humans aka their concentration camps. It wasn’t opinion i linked to studies, and it wasn’t inflammatory. My comments were removed and now i can’t like or comment.

It’s really disturbing ngl. I mean reddit was trash too but i expected some freedom of information here.

Duamerthrax ,

Was it the .ml or the .world instance? I had comments deleted for “misinformation” on .ml. It’s why I migrated away from .ml because it was only a matter of time before my account was banned.

set_secret ,

it was.ML yes .

MoonJellyfish ,
@MoonJellyfish@lemmy.today avatar

That makes sense there. A lot of marxist leninist crazies there.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

You’ll probably be happier at !world instead.

I generally avoid communities on lemmy.ml where there are options elsewhere.

Duamerthrax ,

Yeah, I just blocked the .ml worldnews community. It isn’t worth the effort trying to discuss politics with them. The .world instance has been fine for me so far.

roofuskit ,

.ml is run by tankies. There’s no freedom of ideas or speech on that server.

set_secret ,

I understand that now

Lost_My_Mind ,

Wait…people on Lemmy.ml can ban your account site wide if you’re not home to lemmy.ml? I don’t know the right word for it. But I log into Lemmy.world. You’re saying if I comment on a topic on a Lemmy.ml instance, the Lemmy.ml mods can ban the whole account site wide?

ZoraMystery ,

There have been many times I’ve been blocked by subreddits just for posting an opinion that the moderators disagreed with. Moderators have way too much control over the website.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

At least modlogs are public, so people can call them out about it

awesome_lowlander ,

Not really any different on lemmy, sadly

Serinus ,

For reference:

Modlog

He linked en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Xinjiang_internment_camps

That’s not allowed on lemmy.ml

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

Lemmy.ml and world news, name a more iconic duo

awesome_lowlander ,

Kind of sad how many communities are on .ml. Would like to block the entire server but lose too much content.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

A new post has been created about this issue: lemmy.world/post/16211417

I guess we’ll start people moving from that instance more and more as time passes

set_secret ,

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  • Serinus ,

    What? If you have context, let us know. I just posted what I found on the modlog over there.

    set_secret ,

    Oh sry i thought you were the admin justifying your censorship. I apologise.

    set_secret ,

    So my other comment was just straight up deleted?

    Serinus ,

    Use a porn/incognito window to go to lemmy.ml/c/worldnews click modlog and search for your name.

    CommunityLinkFixer Bot ,

    Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !worldnews

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    Good bot? I genuinely have no idea if that’s more appropriate for the situation…

    awesome_lowlander ,

    Why are you attacking somebody who’s backing you up? Sheesh

    set_secret ,

    Yeah i misunderstood. My bad

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    New person here. What isn’t allowed on Lemmy.ml? The linking of wikipedia?

    Serinus ,

    Anything that speaks poorly of China, especially Wikipedia.

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    How did Lemmy.ml become the dominant userbase with those policies?

    Serinus ,

    Lemmy.world is bigger, but Lemmy.ml.is the developers’ instance, and gets the newest versions of Lemmy first.

    It’s also the oldest instance, I believe.

    set_secret ,

    I linked to a lot of other studies im a separate comment too share that if we’re being transparent

    SuddenDownpour ,

    Already mentioned below, but for better visibility: !world has better moderation.

    SeveralAnts ,

    I just found out Lemmy is blocking and removing users for having varied political opinions that don’t line up with their forceful left ideals. So I’m out. This was a waste of time.

    Kroxx ,

    Switch instances?

    SeveralAnts ,

    Would it be much better do you think? I’ve heard others are worse, but I am not sure of them all. I can look into it. I just want people to be able to have open, civil conversations without being silenced by biased mods.

    Cracks_InTheWalls ,
    @Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

    If you have an issue with a given community, find or start an alternative one on another instance. If you have an issue with how your instance deals with anyone, sign up for a different instance.

    I urge you to consider this before giving up on Lemmy entirely, it’s kind of the beauty of the federated services.

    meep_launcher ,

    Agreed, there are lots of instances, and that may be one thing that allows Lemmy to actually have space for different political leanings. As I understand, conservative circles are not very large here, but that can change, and smaller communities generally are healthier. Check those out and recruit your pals- be the change you want to see in the world!

    set_secret ,

    This is true but I’ve found I’ve been blocked on world news for posting comments againts fascist ideas. I’ve been shadow banned from world news for posting comprehensive evidence of china’s crimes against humans aka their concentration camps. It wasn’t opinion i linked to studies, and it wasn’t inflammatory. My comments were removed and now i can’t like or comment.

    It’s really disturbing ngl.

    SeveralAnts ,

    Thank you so much for commenting this. I thought I was going crazy. World News seems to be the culprit. It isn’t fair to the users to deny information. I think I’m going to leave, it is too disturbing. I don’t need this.

    set_secret ,

    Yeah i just blocked that community, but really shit we have dickheads like this ruining lemmy with arbitrary censorship.

    Schadrach , (edited )

    Really no different than Reddit in that regard. At least we don’t have people automatically banning you for having ever interacted with specific other communities yet, at least I don’t think we do yet.

    EDIT: Shit, somehow I forgot the don’t. Teach me not to proofread.

    tal ,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    I would suggest rather than entirely leaving the Threadiverse, just leaving that community and joining the !world community.

    TrickDacy ,

    Interesting – me too. OP misunderstood you and thought you’re a conservative. lol

    radicalautonomy , (edited )

    Your situation is different from that of the person to whom you are replying. SeveralAnts is upset that eight copy-paste comments of theirs were removed by a mod from one comment section on !worldnews, each containing the exact same misinformation which implied that Mexican drug cartels had 37 presidential candidates assassinated in order to leave one lone candidate, a Jewish leftist scientist, as the cartels’ preferred candidate. This is a lie. While a few dozen Mexican politicians have been assassinated this election cycle, none of them were presidential candidates.

    What SeveralAnts is upset about is that their attempts at spreading lies in order to promote their anti-leftist agenda failed. To that, I say good fucking riddance. Go back to Twixxer.

    TrickDacy ,

    Can you say where you got this idea? I see a lot of conservative opinions considering the entire idea behind this platform was conceived and executed by far-leftists.

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    Isn’t !conservative still going well?

    radicalautonomy , (edited )

    SeveralAnts is upset that eight copy-paste comments of theirs were removed by a mod from one comment section on !worldnews, each containing the exact same misinformation which implied that Mexican drug cartels had 37 presidential candidates assassinated in order to leave one lone candidate, a Jewish leftist scientist, as the cartels’ preferred candidate. This is a lie. While a few dozen Mexican politicians have been assassinated this election cycle, none of them were presidential candidates.

    What SeveralAnts is upset about is that their attempts at spreading lies in order to promote their anti-leftist agenda failed. To that, I say to them good fucking riddance. Go back to Twixxer.

    Moorshou ,

    Couldn’t you just move to another lemmy instance? or host your own?

    roofuskit ,

    What Lemmy? Lemmy is not a central authority.

    cupcakezealot ,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    probably because reddit just broke the api clients again (including their own app).

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    Yes, I just noticed that on !boostforlemmy

    RootBeerGuy ,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    This is fucking hilarious.

    The entire time since that announcement last year dropped I have been using the modified Infinity for Reddit client that has my own API code in it.

    I told myself if that stops working, whatever, I will not try to keep the app up to date and I will not switch apps. Lemmy works well enough for me now.

    Up to this day the few times I have been accessing reddit through it I have no issues whatsoever. Amazing. Then again I never tried while they had issues with their official app, I suppose. Unless that is right now as I type this, because right now my app is still working fine.

    demizerone , (edited )

    They are also using automation to review comments that might harm their advertising partners. After 15 year a joke about Boeing got my account suspended. I deleted my top comments and closed it after that. Fucking trash. Now I only got to the site if Google search takes me there and with ad block enabled. Spez can suck it.

    Suavevillain ,
    @Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

    Lemmy W. I hope more people join.

    dependencyinjection , (edited )

    Why?

    I kinda like how I often quickly run out of new interesting posts to comment on, but there is enough that I can have engaging conversations.

    The more people that come the more it gets watered down. Not that I am gatekeeping, people can do as they like. Just I am happy right now.

    Edit: Curious about the downvotes. Considering I explicitly said I’m not trying to gate keep and people can do as they please.

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    I wouldn’t find twice the number of people, so that a few niche communities get more activity.

    !football for instance is pretty quiet with how popular the sport is.

    Also a few “real life” communities like !parenting and !personalfinance would benefit from more activity

    ekZepp ,
    @ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

    indeed.

    dependencyinjection ,

    I just subbed to all three of those.

    I find half the battle here is finding new places to sub to. I’ll browse all but always forget to sub to new ones I see.

    I think for sports, it’s difficult as it seems most of us early adopters here are, well let’s say nerdier than the average, and as a rule tend to follow sport less.

    Even me, I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch sport, aside from the olympics. But as an introvert that had a shitty home life I learnt quickly how to be a fake extrovert and thus had a lot of friends and so got surrounded by sport and stuff.

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    !newcommunities and !trendingcommunities might be useful to you

    tal ,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    I find half the battle here is finding new places to sub to.

    At the moment, none of Lemmy – and AFAIK, kbin/mbin/etc – or any of the clients provide a native way to search all of the Threadiverse. Some of that is kind of intrinsic to the distributed design, intended to help it scale, let instances be small if required. An instance doesn’t track all the activity on all the instances out there.

    However, if you go to lemmyverse.net, they have a list of all of the communities across all of the instances on the Threadiverse. You can search and filter by various criteria.

    lemmyverse.net/communities

    I really think that that should be the starting point for most users.

    Faresh ,

    You can search for communities across all federated instances by clicking on “All” in the communities page: lemmy.ml/communities?listingType=All

    tal , (edited )
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    That only shows you the communities that your particular instance knows about. But it’s not even all communities over all federated instances.

    An instance only “knows” about a community on another instance once both (a) it has federated with the other instance and (b) someone has explicitly triggered a search for “!communityname” on an instance. Like, that community doesn’t get added to the list of known communities on federated instances just because someone has created it.

    For example, take bbs.9tail.net, a small lemmy instance.

    You can see that that it’s federated with lemmy.world on its instances page:

    bbs.9tail.net/instances

    And it’s only blocked a single instance, lemmygrad.ml.

    But (as of this writing, and that could change if someone goes and starts triggering searches for stuff on there), it only has two pages of communities, with 63 (in a quick count) known. There are far more than 63 communities on lemmy.world alone, not to mention on all the other instances that bbs.9tail.net is federated with.

    Lemmyverse.net, on the other hand, crawls all the instances it can find and builds a full index. Currently has over 27,000 communities. Once you get a “!community” name from there, you can trigger a search for it on your home instance, and your home instance will learn about it. But until you or someone else does that, your home instance won’t know about that community.

    Cowbee ,
    @Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

    Find a smaller instance with similar interests or views, and scroll by local!

    iopq ,

    The hardware communities are not active enough. We need more people who are interested in niche topics

    AchtungDrempels ,

    Because almost all niche topic communities that i am interested in have very few people posting. The niche topics were also what made reddit interesting to me, i hardly ever browsed all there.

    moitoi ,
    @moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Beside what is said, sometimes Lemmy appears in search results. It’s a factor of growth.

    TheFonz ,

    No way really? That would be great. Can the Google crawlers reach Lemmy ? I always wondered

    moitoi ,
    @moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    There was a post about it. And, I get Lemmy as result in my Google search multiple times.

    TheFonz ,

    Could be the signs of tipping point ☝️

    dzanno ,

    I was word of mouthed here yesterday. As someone interested in self hosting and open source i might be the target audience sure, but I am here due to recent news and such

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    Welcome!

    BonesOfTheMoon ,

    Welcome! We’re really nice here. Stay a while.

    ekZepp ,
    @ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar
    Lost_My_Mind ,

    I don’t know man…kind of seems like reddit is the dark side, and spez is Darth Vader.

    yrmp , (edited )

    Fuck reddit.

    Feeding user data to an LLM. Jacking up API costs. Being generally unusable on mobile. Usurping old.reddit.com to try and force me to the official app on “unmoderated” and NSFW threads.

    Now with their IPO and a need to deliver ever increasing subscriber numbers and improved metrics for shareholders every quarter, the writing is on the wall.

    I hope it goes to zero. The only sad thing is all the knowledge that will be lost due to the sky high API pricing when the site eventually does sunset. I’m guilty myself of trying to de-enshittify google somewhat by adding reddit to just about every search. Hopefully people smarter than me have ways to archive that info.

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    Welcome here!

    Wiz ,

    Yes, but glue is the surprisingly tasty ingredient on pizza too keep your toppings from falling off.

    Just be sure to use non-toxic glue, because the other kind tastes terrible.

    tal ,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    Feeding user data to an LLM.

    I mean, somewhere, even if not now, if the Threadiverse becomes large enough, someone is gonna be using comments here to train an LLM too. That’s just gonna be a given unless you want to use non-public forums, and that kills the searchability and accessbility to everyone that makes most forums valuable. It’s even easier to access here than on Reddit – just set up an instance and federate with and subscribe to everything.

    I guarantee you that people are going back and training LLMs on archives of old Usenet discussions too.

    The rest of it, yeah, I get.

    shotgun_crab ,

    The enshittification will make the numbers rise eventually

    Skepticpunk ,

    I’ve been spending my time both here and on Reddit recently, and I’ve honestly been enjoying it more here. Though I mostly lurk.

    BarbecueCowboy ,

    What happened on March 3rd? (Mass increase in active users)

    Oh man, and what happened on April 3rd? (Mass drop in average comments)

    Did I miss a meeting where we decided to just have massive shifts on the 3rd of every month? Is something big happening now, am I missing it?

    ShitOnABrick ,
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    I imagine all this activity is due to bots

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

    What happened on March 3rd? (Mass increase in active users)

    LW updated to 19.3, which counts votes as activity (before, it was only comments and posts)

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