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So apparently youtube, or its comment system, is against the fediverse

Over the time new youtube videos crop up talking about reddit, twitch and twitter issues. And in those comment sections I always like to spread the word of alternatives (like the fediverse). But whenever I do, those comments get quietly removed even though they seem to be posted in the first place.

Whenever I try to add further details, for example name dropping lemmy/bin pixelfeed peertube and mastodon, to previously posted comments those error out and gets deleted entirely.

Anyone else made that observation?

CookieJarObserver ,
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Youtube comments get removed for whatever reason, they are worthless anyway. That’s why many creators had their own subs.

manitcor ,
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there is very likely a bit of collusion going on here among the large social companies.

Silviecat44 ,

Lol take off your tinfoil hat

manitcor ,
@manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech avatar

no

Drunemeton , (edited )
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I tried commenting on two videos yesterday and included links to topic-related websites, and they were deleted.

I checked the TOS and they caution about including inappropriate links in replies, but those weren’t that.

It seems the channel can include links but users can’t. Haven’t tested it much past that point either.

DmMacniel OP , (edited )

yeah I didn't even link any of them, just mentioned the joinfediverse.wiki if at all was enough to get it buried. I really dislike their transparency about what is allowed and what isn't.

CrypticCoffee ,

You mean Lemmy dot world. Does that get filterered?

DmMacniel OP ,

I don't know if that would get filtered out, but I assume it would since it has "lemmy" in the text.

CrypticCoffee ,

What do they have against motorhead. They clearly don’t like to gamble…

DmMacniel OP ,

They really try to play with the dead man's hand.

JoCrichton ,

That would be recognized as a link

Usernameblankface ,
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Writing the exact link will make it a link, just like it did here. Then that link gets recognized by the filter and taken out. Gotta go joinfediverse dot wiki or something like "just Google the Fediverse"

iAmTheTot ,
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Many comments with links will get anyway without checking as a matter of precaution. In general, you just shouldn't post links even if you know they're safe.

Kotking ,
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@Drunemeton @DmMacniel Nope, as someone who upload gameplay videos can tell you, you need to verification yourself before they will allow to post links in description. So all links provided by Youtuber are because they are trustworthy or just gone through the verification process. I am lazy to do and my country is not supported for monetization so no deal for me to go through = no outside links in description. You can try it for yourself.

Drunemeton ,
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How does one verify themselves? I have a Google account that I use and I just checked the settings in YouTube. No “verification” option was listed.

Kotking ,
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@Drunemeton https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171664?hl=en and here googled how to put links for new creators guide https://influencermarketinghub.com/clickable-links-youtube/.

thegiddystitcher ,
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I’m not saying this is untrue, it may only apply to certain combinations of words or maybe even only channels over a certain size. But I’ve been chatting to a couple people over on YT about Mastodon the last few days, and nothing untoward happened to our convos.

That said, a lot of the time perfectly normal comments get flagged as spam for literally no reason at all, so it could just be general incompetence rather than malicious targeting.

tallwookie ,
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they’re competing platforms - of course those comments are going to get deleted.

ItsaB3AR ,

How does Lemmy or Mastadon compete with YouTube?

DmMacniel OP ,

PeerTube would be indirect competition with YouTube.

ItsaB3AR ,

That is fair, just odd to banish all mention of FOSS or federated services. If it is what they are doing, they don’t want people getting that kind of mindset I suppose.

DmMacniel OP ,

It simply struck me as odd today; dunno if they are constantly doing this.

NecoArcKbinAccount ,
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Youtube removes posts with links in them, try posting without them and the comment should stay up.

Silverseren ,

Yeah, that's always been the problem and it's really annoying when getting into a discussion (or argument) on a scientific topic and you can't link to sources to debunk claims.

VanillaGorilla ,

Oh god, I can't even imagine trying to argue over a scientific topic on YouTube. I hate the commenting system and the are so many trolls and idiots.

1chemistdown ,
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Do not try to reason/argue with people who did not reason themselves into their view point. The most successful way to get peoples views to change is having a conversation that they lead and your gently steer.

CrypticCoffee ,

Open source alternatives are a threat. They cannot control information there. I bet all of them are blacklisted.

expatriado ,

I’m not expert, but I think among all social media, YT would be the safest against the Fediverse, due to the massive amount of storage and bandwidth it requires.

CrypticCoffee ,

Definitely the hardest to compete against, but if people come here, they will become aware of alternatives like Odysee and peer tube.

Trekman10 ,
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I’d love to use PeerTube, if channels I liked moved there.

chonglibloodsport ,

I wouldn’t worry about it too much. YouTube comments are the absolute bottom of the barrel in terms of quality engagement. They mostly exist to give people a place to vent when the video creator annoys them!

klyde ,
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I miss the old YouTube comments. Just like Reddit. Nothing of use anymore and if there is you have to scroll for ages to find it.

LemmynySnicket ,

Are you kidding? How are you going to say that with great comments like random "RonPaul2012"s everywhere?

madjo ,
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Do you add links in your YouTube comments? If so, then that’s the reason. Don’t add links in YouTube comments.

DmMacniel OP ,

I didn't, simply mentioned those alternatives.

madjo ,
@madjo@geddit.social avatar

That’s really weird then

genoxidedev1 ,
@genoxidedev1@kbin.social avatar

The spez and Elon Muskler cucks do not contain themselves to only Reddit threads

zelifcam ,
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Proof?

DmMacniel OP ,

I can't give any proof since I didn't expect this to happen in the firstplace. If it would I would have screencapped it for sure.

zelifcam ,
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That’s a pretty big claim. Any proof?

zelifcam ,
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That’s a pretty big claim. Any proof?

zelifcam ,
@zelifcam@lemmy.world avatar

Proof?

Pregnenolone ,

I have never read a YouTube comment in my whole life that has ever demonstrated any value to anyone or anything ever

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