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Balinares ,

Could we, like, leave the clickbait headlines to reddit? Thanks. The queer.af admins just decided – wisely – not to renew the domain considering who the fee would go to.

hal_5700X OP ,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

The queer.af admins just decided – wisely – not to renew the domain considering who the fee would go to.

So the Taliban being in control of the .af domain. Made the admins not to renew the instance. To put in away, “The instance has been killed by the Taliban.”.

FlickOfTheBean ,

No. The instance being killed by the taliban is the opposite of that is happening here.

The taliban has done nothing, in this case. The admins of the instance have chosen not to keep the instance due to not wanting to fund the taliban in anyway.

This phrasing fucks up which way the action flows, which is important for a headline to get right to remain accurate to the story. Does that make sense?

heyoni ,

Nope. That’s extremely misleading.

Neon ,

No. The Admins killed the Instance.

Da_Boom ,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Nah the admins killed the instance before the Taliban could at best, kill it, at worse proxy it and gather information.

Seriously gaining control of a domain can allow you to do pretty nefarious things.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

It was pretty clickbaity but damn I did laugh

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Reading that headline scared me. For a moment I thought the instance owner was killed by the Taliban.

iso ,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Another reason to not use ccTLDs.

radix ,
@radix@lemm.ee avatar

What alternatives are there? Just the big .org, .com, .net ones?

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Just use .net or so. Or make it dependent on where you host, so .fi or .de or .us or whatever. TLDs aren’t just for lulz, and getting specific country ones just for “funny” combinations just leads to stuff like this happening.

TheInsane42 ,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

No need to limit yourself to US tld’s, country ones for funny domains can be stable as well. My domain koffie.nu (coffee.now in Dutch), registered in '98, is still going strong. I just hope the rising sealevel won’t wipe away the country any time soon.

FierySpectre ,

Meer info over koffie zal in 1999 worden toegevoegd

Lies

TheInsane42 ,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, never came to updating the site, it’s my email/network domain. Maybe Imshould change the 1 into a 2 ;)

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

So many now, it’s opened up to at least like 100 or more words now.

grandkaiser ,

DNS engineer here: it’s the bane of my existence. Vanity TLDs were a cash grab for ICANN. They have made defensive domains a nightmare

Steve ,

I want to know more

4z01235 ,

Something like what I wrote in my other comment: lemmy.world/comment/6698854

iso ,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Nope. The ones you’re mentioned are gTLD (generic top-level domain) but most of the other domains are generic TLD too. See here for the list: en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_Internet_top-level_dom…

Just don’t use country-code TLDs because they can removed by those countries. For example fmhy.ml and now queer.af.

shnizmuffin ,
@shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol avatar

There are tons.

Marsupial ,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

If the Taliban take over Australia I’ve got bigger issues to worry about than my domain name.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

that’s why australia has their army of spiders

Funwayguy ,
@Funwayguy@lemmy.world avatar

God help us all if we have to break out the Emus

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    iso ,
    @iso@lemy.lol avatar

    Yeah that’s true. We just need to research who owns the TLD before long-term site and everything is ok.

    nintendiator ,

    Better to just setup your own ccTLD, for maximum trust.

    (honestly only half joking)

    skullgiver , (edited )
    @skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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    4z01235 ,

    I’m sure Google didn’t buy those for the purpose of actually using them, but rather to prevent someone else from registering and using them.

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    echodot ,

    It’s Google, probably just bought them on the off chance that they would ever do anything with them.

    They are a company where the left hand doesn’t talk to the right hand very often anyway.

    4z01235 ,

    Two businesses can trademark the same name if they are operating in different industries. Or, the name could have spaces or punctuation that renders the same as a TLD.

    Go Ogle Photographic & Paparazzi Inc. could have a reasonable claim to the same .google TLD. The registration fee is chump change for Google/Alphabet to make sure this can’t happen.

    echodot ,

    They even use youtu.be as their URL shortener

    echodot ,

    .io is the British Indian ocean’s territory, probably not really a risk i doubt anything’s going to happen there.

    CrypticCoffee ,

    If you’re on the country code, you open yourself up to risk. ml has been a risk before.

    Your headline is misleading though. Taliban didn’t kill it. Admin did.

    victorz ,

    Such a heinous click bait, I’m inclined to down vote the post. Definitely misleading af.

    hal_5700X OP ,
    @hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

    If the Taliban never got control of the .af domain in the first place. The Admin would have renew it. So the Taliban did kill it.

    ChairmanMeow ,
    @ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

    If the US hadn’t pulled out, the Taliban wouldn’t be in charge. So Trump killed it.

    Indirectly doing things allows anyone to take the blame!

    ApostleO ,

    If the big bang had never occurred, queer.af would never have died.

    Ergo: big bang killed queer.af.

    QED

    intensely_human ,

    Lol did you forget who was President when we pulled out of Afghanistan?

    ChairmanMeow ,
    @ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

    Trump made the decision to pull out, Biden didn’t stop what had already been set in motion.

    intensely_human ,

    He also didn’t execute it very well

    CrypticCoffee ,

    Well, they run Afghanistan and af is the country code. They picked a domain that they thought was cute, funny or clever and didn’t consider longevity or risk. It’s on them. If I make a website. I won’t pick a silly extension that won’t survive long.

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    They could get a .ck domain instead and move to queer.as.fu.ck, no?

    NekkoDroid ,
    @NekkoDroid@programming.dev avatar

    Wouldn’t that need them to get the fu.ck domain itself? I have a feeling that is already used by someone else, but there currently isn’t any website at that domain (doesn’t mean it isnt used)

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    Worst hypothesis they just need to mess around a bit. For example I don’t think that queerasfu.ck would be registered.

    adam ,

    Activitypub makes it next to impossible to “move” an instance to a new domain.

    Every post/comment/and user is uniquely identified using the domain. In the eyes of ActivityPub changing the domain just makes each of those things a completely new thing.

    You can set up a new service at your new domain and potentially get most all your users to migrate but they’ll be leaving behind their entire histories and as a “new” fediverse user they’ll only be discoverable via the historical posts for as long as the original server is reachable.

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    Damn, that’s sad. Thank you for the info.

    RootBeerGuy ,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Yes, that was a big issue for fmhy.ml too

    nekusoul ,
    @nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

    Not sure how well this would actually work, but couldn’t the admins “copy” the instance to the new domain and then initiate an account migration from the old to the new instance for every account? That should both push out the account transfer to all the other instances and preserve the post history as well.

    fruitycoder ,

    Is there no SAN equivalent for AP?

    nintendiator ,

    Thats IMO one of the worst engineering decisions in the protocol, besides all the others, but this one (making identity depend on domains, meaning on third parties antithetical to decentralization) is… laughable. Who was responsible for it?

    adam ,

    But, the theory goes, you’re not supposed to be reliant on third parties as you should be in control of your own domain (or within a few degrees of the person who is).

    Large instances are what are antithetical to decentralisation.

    Of course, the reality of it is that, it just hasn’t worked out like that.

    cupcakezealot ,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    .ck is only available as subdomains - including the hilarious, co.ck.

    gianni ,
    @gianni@lemmy.ca avatar

    That’s quite an intentionally misleading headline @hal_5700X

    yuki2501 ,
    @yuki2501@lemmy.world avatar

    New domain name proposal:

    queer.asf.uk 🤭

    BilboBargains ,

    Booooo misleading title

    Matriks404 ,

    Why would you want to use .af TLD anyway?

    ApostleO ,

    They almost certainly picked it just for the joke.

    queer.af = Queer AF = Queer as fuck!

    It’s like how popular the TLD of Guernsey (.gg) is with gaming websites.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t even realize what country code the TLD was when they registered it.

    ObsidianZed ,

    Same with Twitch.tv, the .tv apparently being the country code for Tuvala.

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    puppy ,

    This video?

    youtu.be/cD4hxKkqR4E?si=tzypXPgE-pZOjEMH

    moon ,

    What a bad taste title

    hal_5700X OP ,
    @hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

    What a bad taste title

    For who…The Taliban?

    moon ,

    That it’s objectively false to stir up attention

    Your title implies it was directly killed, when it factually was not.

    flamingo_pinyata ,

    They could have renewed it just for the irony. Even if it means giving some money to the Taliban.

    TimewornTraveler ,

    funding oppression of women for the luls

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