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Skyhighatrist , in Where does pollution go when it rains?

AFAIK it ends up on the ground, and in the ground water. Which means that it could contaminate drinking water if it’s not treated properly. It will enter rivers and lakes, and snow and everywhere else that water gets.

catloaf ,

Yup. Raindrops originate from water vapor collecting around a particle in the air. When the rain falls, it pulls those air pollutants to the ground, where they either enter the ground or run down to rivers, lakes, or the ocean.

ConstipatedWatson OP ,

So pollution does indeed bind with water and gets carried around. I wonder how well chlorine helps destroy or clean such filth

catloaf ,

It doesn’t. If anything, adding something as reactive as chlorine to pollution would only make it worse.

Litron3000 ,

The rain that is falling today doesn’t end up in drinking water for a good while, depending on where you are. In the meantime it gets filtered by the soil it flows through.
On top of that not everything that’s unhealthy to breathe is unhealthy to eat/drink. Think about coal dust for example, very bad for your lungs but also a common medicine against diarrhea when compressed into a pill.
Just to give some perspective and lift you up a bit ;)

ConstipatedWatson OP ,

So we’re doomed, or rather, I am. Well, theoretically speaking we’re all doomed, but it would be pleasant to last as long and healthy as possible

CanadaPlus , in Where does pollution go when it rains?

It would logically have to end up on the ground. If it gets into the water would have to do with solubility, and most combustion products aren’t very soluble, so you’re probably not drinking too much smog.

I don’t actually know where they ultimately end up and to what degree they can make you sick except through inhalation. Somebody has to have studied it, though, right?

ConstipatedWatson OP ,

Ah, interesting. I should hope not all pollutants dissolve into water, but I wonder: wouldn’t they still be bad when ingested even if not dissolved into water?

CanadaPlus ,

Yes, probably. If they’re trapped in urban dirt, and you don’t snack on sod from a lane divider often you shouldn’t have to worry about it, though.

themurphy , in Where does pollution go when it rains?

This varries alot depending on where you live.

Normally it’s like this.

First it goes into the water, then it goes to the ground, which normally filters it very well. BUT if this is generally a polluted area, and also depending on the composition of the earth, it may not filter it at all. We assume that there’s some filtering though.

Now it gets really country-dependent. Some countries filter the tap water very well, some adds chlorine to ‘cleanse’ it, and some may not do a very good job entirely.

I’m no expert in which countries around the world do what, but it’s probably something you can look up for your area.

Generally though, it’s worse for you to inhale (unless the water is just polluted in other ways)

ConstipatedWatson OP ,

Thanks! You’re right that I wasn’t thinking about chlorine which does get added to the water where I live. I suppose that doesn’t entirely kill all germs and pollution going into the water, but it helps getting rid of it.

Also, yeah. When I am out breathing pollution, it feels really bad for me

half_built_pyramids , in Is climate change affecting weather forecasting?

Short version, there’s a model that predicts weather better, but it is kind of apocalyptic so no one wants to use it and acknowledge it.

youtu.be/4S9sDyooxf4

Boddhisatva ,

There are other reasons besides it being apocalyptic that climate scientists might consider the model less useful than others. This video rebuttal to the video you posted explains some of those reasons quite well. The rebuttal is from Dr. Adam Levy who is a climate scientist. I mention this only because Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder, the maker of your video, actually has a degree in physics, not climate science. One should be very cautious when considering opinions of people who are speaking outside their field of expertise. While she may be an expert in her own field, she is not a climate scientist.

Hexagon , in Does stranger matter violate thermodynamics?

If you mean matter with strange quarks, to the best of my knowledge it’s still very hypothetical. There is no hard proof that it exists, or that it would behave in certain ways.

On the other hand, the law of entropy stands undefeated so far. I would not worry too much until there is some actual evidence that strange matter is real.

Sus_456 OP ,

Thanks for the answer, =(

Darkassassin07 , in How do some animals (or at least humans) manage to generate more force than their own muscles are rated to handle?
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Under normal circumstances; you feel feedback from your actions. Kick something, and you’ll immediately, before you’ve finished applying force, feel pain in your foot. That pain causes you to reduce the amount of force you’re applying, both to end the pain and to prevent damage. This is an automatic subconscious reaction.

Add in a shot of a adrenaline though, and that pain feedback is heavily subdued. Your brain doesn’t register the signal to pullback, so you follow through with more force than you otherwise would be able to before self preservation kicks in.

Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

DestroyerOfWorlds ,

the messed up thing about getting old is that you can start hurting yourself doing things that used to be “easy”. like lifting heavy weight or gripping something tight (like opening a jar). all of a sudden it feels like your muscles are breaking your joints and damaging your tendons/ligaments. its the muscle memory that gets you into trouble. good times, good times.

Everythingispenguins ,

It really is. I once broke my foot running up some stairs. It was an emergency and as I was running I caught the edge of one step with just two toes(I did have shoes on) the ball of foot missed the stairs completely. Instead of slowing down or trying again I just pushed hard throwing my weight forward. Find out later that I had a radial fracture of my second metatarsal. The crazy thing is I spent the next few hours walking on a broken foot and didn’t feel it at all.

I did feel it the next day though. Fuck that hurt .

PhlubbaDubba , in How do some animals (or at least humans) manage to generate more force than their own muscles are rated to handle?

Momentum is determined by more than just the strength the muscles put into the movement

Doesn’t take a lot of force to step off a ledge, but you’re still gonna hit the ground pretty dang hard

wargreymon2023 , in How much longer will the age of Science last?

Oh well, you should ask how long does dark age last instead, it is far from over, many countries in the world embrace ignorance and conformity.

wargreymon2023 , in What liquids have the lowest refraction?

Sounds like some sort of oil🤔

j4k3 , in What is going on with that atmosphere/light around the rocket in this photo?
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You are seeing the exhaust plume while it is still dense enough to reflect enough light from the sun.

There are several massive thermal layers in the atmosphere that effectively make isolation barriers at various heights. That is why the exhaust on the left appears unique in structure within a certain boundary. The upper layers of the atmosphere get really hot before getting really cold again. Like commercial jets fly in the cold part, but it gets hot, then cold above that. The rocket plume on the right is in that upper cold region; the outer most puffy/sparse/low Earth orbit region. You can tell because of how enormous the exhaust plume is expanding when there is very little atmospheric pressure to contain it.

There is very little atmosphere way up there and certainly not enough to produce Rayleigh scattering. If there was enough to produce Rayleigh scattering the exhaust plume would be hard to see with very little contrast against the background, but without, it makes a much higher contrast view against the mostly empty void of LEO space.

BackOnMyBS OP ,
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so what’s the light reflecting off of?? ice? vapor? something else?

j4k3 ,
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Exhaust products and a small amount of either O^2^ or unburnt. IIRC SpaceX is a fuel rich cycle, so mostly +unburned fuel.

Think of it kinda like you’re seeing an isolated atmosphere made by the rocket suspended in a place nearly without atmosphere. It is like a cloud of atmosphere in space where there is no atmosphere.

It’s mostly in the sun which is super hot without the filter of an atmosphere and how it buffers temperature. As soon is the particles are below the shadow of the Earth, they get super cold and likely freeze.

The rocket is clearly not at orbital velocity yet and that stuff is going backwards fast, so it will all deorbit fairly quickly.

You’re not seeing turbulent flow quite like what happens on the ground or what is seen in other parts of the exhaust plume because there is not very much pressure in the surrounding region to create the Eddy currents that make the mixing/chaotic flow patterns seen within another medium. I don’t think it is entirely linear flow, but it is much closer to linear flow than what happens in a thick atmosphere.

catloaf , in What is going on with that atmosphere/light around the rocket in this photo?

It’s a space jellyfish!

No, really, that’s the name for that phenomenon: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_jellyfish

j4k3 , (edited ) in Is climate change affecting weather forecasting?
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Late but… The USA failed to regulate 5G well enough. It would have forced telecoms to use steeper frequently filters that are more accurate like what is used in the rest of the responsible world. The 5G frequency band butts up against the hydrogen band used by weather satellites. (IIRC) The study that the FCC commissioned said something like a failure to isolate and protect the hydrogen line would set back US weather forecasting accuracy to around the level it was in 1970. As usual, the red jihadist party had absolutely no qualms about such a technological setback, took their political bribes, and failed to regulate to protect the hydrogen line. In their defense, radio is magic, and sky wizard didn’t have any objections via thoughts and prayers.

RozhkiNozhki OP ,
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Interesting, thank you!

justJanne , in This is probably a dumb question, but if we eliminate the hydrophobia caused by rabies, would it increase the survival rate of active rabies?

No. You can fix the dehydration relatively easily by just giving the person liquid intravenously.

But the primary way rabies kills you is liquifying your brain, which is independent of how hydrated you are.

Empricorn ,

So that’s what The Shape of Water is about, never saw it.

DigitalTraveler42 ,

Nah that movie was about how human men are biologically flawed and that our cock and balls should be internal in some kind of clam shell like thing.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Happy reptile noises.

For whatever reason sperm cells just come out better when kept a couple degrees colder, though, so hear we are with our insides out.

Aussiemandeus ,
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Yeah its the prime example that evolution isn’t perfect just happy with good enough.

Also a great detriment to the “grand design”

CanadaPlus , (edited )

It also illustrates a funny bit of the logic of multicellular non-clonal creatures: the germ line is the species. The other 99.9…% of you is just a fancy delivery mechanism, so it makes sense to add something seemingly super impractical to the anatomy if it slightly helps the sex cells.

Agent641 ,

Many organs function poorly when liquefied.

catloaf , in This is probably a dumb question, but if we eliminate the hydrophobia caused by rabies, would it increase the survival rate of active rabies?

Unlikely. Rabies kills by infecting brain cells. This means they’re converted into virus factories instead of doing brain things. That also causes swelling as an immune response, which further damages the brain. Both of these result in coma and death. Eliminating hydrophobia and increasing water consumption would not really help treat an infection (at least any more than treating any infection, which is to say, not very much on its own).

count_of_monte_carlo , in This is probably a dumb question, but if we eliminate the hydrophobia caused by rabies, would it increase the survival rate of active rabies?

The Milwaukee Protocol is a treatment plan that is essentially a more advanced version of what you’re asking. The patient is put in a medically induced coma and then given antivirals and IV fluids, which avoids the issue of hydrophobia.

It got a lot of press because one person survived on it (a big deal given that rabies is a death sentence once symptoms appear) but this success hasn’t been reproduced with other patients. A paper on the protocol has a remarkably blunt title: Critical Appraisal of the Milwaukee Protocol for Rabies: This Failed Approach Should Be Abandoned.

A_Random_Idiot ,

and didnt they use it on that girl that survived cause she didnt report the bite until it was too late, so it was either try something dangerously crazy like Mulwaukee Protocol, or just die miserably?

rudyharrelson ,

I guess whether this protocol should be abandoned, rather than iterated on to improve its chances of success, to me, depends on the effect the coma has on the patient's quality of life while the protocol is attempted. It's arguably more humane to put someone in a medically induced coma while they're still sane. If the protocol fails, the patient is at least not conscious while their brain is deteriorating.

I'm gonna go watch House.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

It seems like this would be the most humane way to “treat” it, but maybe I’m missing something?

Dogyote ,

Critical Appraisal of the Milwaukee Protocol for Rabies: This Failed Approach Should Be Abandoned

Well you got a better idea?

I looked, and they don’t.

xkforce ,

Yes. Get vaccinated before symptoms appear. If you don’t, you are almost guaranteed to die no matter what intervention is attempted.

GluWu ,

We should make a new protocol where if you didn’t get the vaccine, we just fucking kill you.

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