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Do you think lemmy would be as popular as reddit?

Hi, do you think lemmy would be as popular as Reddit ? I mean, many subreddits have much more posts compared to communities on lemmy… sometimes I scroll through Reddit sub top of month and see no end. At lemmy mostly I see 10 posts monthly… I do like concept of moving to lemmy, but it might make no sense if people’s are no active here and tbh I see the trend of disappearing activity

JasSmith ,

Open license software will never beat paid software in the consumer space. I know that’s a controversial opinion, but it’s been proven a thousand times. There’s no way to beat the user experience of Reddit when they have a hundred experienced UX designers doing nothing but optimising for engagement. We think the overall experience is worse, which is why we’re here, but we are the minority. Lemmy still hasn’t figured out basic problems like what happens to the user experience when an instance defederates from another. The user had no control over that, but suddenly their subscribed communities have disappeared without notice or explanation. Now they have to find another instance to subscribe to, and they lose their entire Lemmy identity.

OskarAxolotl ,

Well, the website and mobile app are overwhelmingly hated (just look at the reviews on the PlayStore). I think there are two major things helping Reddit: It’s easy to grasp (Lemmy has instances, dozens of different apps, etc.) and the fact that Reddit already has a community for basically everything.

iamthewalrus ,

I generally agree, but one counter example I keep thinking of is Wikipedia. Massively successful site with few rivals despite being a nonprofit. I imagine a social media app could build some degree of success with that model. The main obstacles to my mind are a good UI/UX and a community funding approach sufficient to keep ahead of growth. It’s not yet clear whether Lemmy is “the one” to provide either. As great as the fediverse concept is, it’s harder to use and to consolidate funding for than it perhaps should be.

JasSmith ,

Wikipedia is a good example but they actually employ designers and developers. I think the secret sauce is paying people to build great software. So a non-profit with donations could absolutely work.

mojo ,

Biggest issue is that a lot of features are missing, it desperately needs better moderation tools, and onboarding needs to be so easy that you’re technically challenged grandma can figure it out.

If it solves those, then I do think it’s possible. But if it actually did, companies would come in and try to become popular instances and probably try to cannibalize it.

It should be clear already that the majority do not care about morals, but just want entertaining content regardless of how badly they’re being treated. Even if fedi became dominate, it can be replaced by centralized media just as quickly since they can simply innovate much faster and with way more funding. Lemmy is like two guys doing it full time, so compare that to Reddit’s employment userbase when you compare quality.

emptyother ,
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If a billionaire (or a very big bunch of millionaires) out of the goodness of their heart (yeah, not gonna happen) threw a massive amount of money into advertising for a open source product they dont own, Lemmy could be as or more popular. Even if it has fewer features. Even if its uglier. Even if its more complicated.

I can’t count the many times I’ve seen the worser product has won out because it had big corpo ad budget. Turned me a bit cynical.

luthis ,

I haven’t gone back to Reddit as an active user at all since the event.

Lemmy will get another boost of users as a side effect as Mastodon picks up in popularity with the continued elonning of Twitter.

It’s fairly active here, I constantly see new posts etc. But if you want more activity, post more!

Lemmylaugh ,

In the early reddit, there was that gallowboob user/group of employee. I think someone like that would help boost content

TwoBeeSan ,

It’s inherently niche. If reddit has more controversies can see more waves coming over.

I like the vibe of the smaller forum, but would be lying if I said I use it as much as reddit.

Lemmy still scratches my forum need, but I found myself devoting more time to other things. Probably for the best honestly. 🤷‍♂️

ProperlyProperTea ,

I assume some will say they don’t want it to. I hope it does so more people are no longer giving money to giant social media companies, or being tracked by them.

XEAL ,

Nope. It’s like Whatsapp/Telegram. If it does the same basic stuff, many people won’t switch for the sake of it.

Also, Reddit got much traction in part because there was little to none censorship at the beginning.

Most of those banned subs on Reddit would be banned here immediately too or if the hosting instance allowed them, others would defederate it.

Pratai ,

Let’s hope not.

captain_aggravated ,
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In a way I’m hoping not; I’m hoping kbin and other similar fediverse link aggregators also get a healthy portion of the pie.

vodkasolution ,

No way it’ll become as popular as reddit but that isn’t a bad thing per se

nieceandtows ,

I mean, eventually? If lemmy keeps getting more robust and people keep creating quality content, then eventually lemmy would get mainstream. 8-10 years ago I was very surprised when I saw reddit on the news for a rare moment. Reddit is too mainstream now. Hope lemmy never gets to that stage.

Auzy ,

The discussions on Reddit also were so cliche, and low-effort comments were rising to the top (chain threads). It has gotten worse since.

I’m also hoping discussions are more honest here, where facts and science is used, whereas on Reddit, my biggest issue was it got to the point, that evidence wasn’t important in a discussion (but I’ve already noticed the same in some Lemmy communities. Literally had a discussion with someone recently whose argument revolved around insulting everyone they disagreed with, and they had all the insulting buzzwords to support their argument)

Thats actually the beauty of the ability to defederate from crappy communities here on Lemmy too, we can avoid toxic servers, and we can produce high quality discussion.

I think ultimately though, we don’t have to be as popular. Quality, not quantity is important.

That being said though, anyone who moved to Reddit from Digg, knows how quickly things can change. I suspect popularity here is ultimately growing though. But not hopefully at the expense of quality. If Truth Social gets shut down, unfortunately, I suspect that will lead to growth of lemmy, but things will turn to crap :(

lazylion_ca ,

If someone does fire up an alt-right friendly instance, it can exist in a vacuum. It doesnt have to be federated.

Actually, there was one a month ago that got defederated because its users were assholes.

Auzy ,

Yeah I’m on Beehaw, so a lot have been blocked. My concern would be if they choose to just use the normal servers. Last thing we need is a bunch of people running around turning Lemmy into an echo chamber. But, I have no issue if they want their own server

sag ,

Yes.

ShimmeringKoi ,
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I sure hope not

Razputinsgirth ,

I don't think so. The apps aren't as intuitive as the old non official reddit apps. I know me personally I don't know how to use kbin that well and I overall don't love it here. I made the switch when RIF died and I haven't actually filled the void yet.

beSyl ,

I think the apps are fine. Check out boost for lemmy… All the apps really need right now is an On Boarding screen. Something like: “Choose instance X or Y or Z and let’s go”.

Razputinsgirth ,

That would definitely help someone like me who I guess is just an old person now

Blaze ,
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