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Anti_Weeb_Penguin ,

An ex British colony that could have been a superpower but got partitioned and turned into 2 countries hostile to each other, preety sad if you ask me.

NuPNuA ,

Yet one of those countries is rapidly becoming a developing superpower.

ExLisper ,

Really depends on your definition of superpower…

detalferous ,

They assassinate political rivals in foreign countries

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Source: Trust me bro!

detalferous ,
TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Multiple national security sources alleged that Indian officials did not dispute the allegations in closed-door meetings with Canadian officials. The Guardian could not independently verify the CBC’s reporting.

Read that Guardian article yourself before sending.

detalferous ,

Which part? That India doesn’t even deny it was them?

TheAnonymouseJoker , (edited )
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The news seems to have been confirmed now. When I commented, within the timespan it was still partially confirmed rumours floating around.

Still not confirmed, you are a liar.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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You are a liar. The news is still not confirmed.

And009 ,

Any source, more info on this?

detalferous ,
And009 ,

This is a weird one. Some call the guy terrorist because he was part of a movement that’s been going on for past 50 years and gaining traction recently.

Can’t trust the govt

30p87 ,

They have good tech support.

hungryphrog ,

It has an interesting history and the amount of cultural diversity is fascinating. However, there’s a 99% chance I’ll never go there because of all the horrible stuff I have heard: misogyny, poverty, scammers, pretty damn serious child abuse, once again misogyny and poverty.

ExLisper ,

And caste system.

mke_geek ,

I’ve never been to India. Unfortunately I’ve heard mostly negative things:

  • Rampant rape of women
  • Too much garbage
  • Smells bad
  • Treating anyone non-Indian badly or will try to take advantage of them financially
  • Overcrowded
  • Poverty
  • Low wages
  • Culture that puts down women / treats them much lower than men instead of being equal
Albin7326 OP ,
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These only at a certain point. There is more good things to talk about india.

waterbogan ,

Having not been there I dont really know enough to form an opinion of such a huge country that contains such a diversity of cultures, but it does seem to be struggling with severe overpopulation which is at the root of many of its isssues

Albin7326 OP ,
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How over population can cause issues ?

klemptor ,

Lack of adequate infrastructure for handling things like sanitation, transportation, and education (to name just a few) for so many people.

Albin7326 OP ,
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Its because the bad government rule india

waterbogan ,

Lack of resources, poverty, disease, stress, aggression, pollution. There isnt really a problem out there that overpopulation doesnt make worse

yumcake ,

Rapid development has led to stark differences within that country, parts are modern, affluent, well-educated…and they live shoulder to shoulder with tribal, impoverished, and practically primal apes. It’s the same issues every country faces when rapid development comes their way. It’s going to be incredibly challenging for them to develop a healthy middle-class and egalitarian society.

It’s more likely that the rapid modernization just leads to increased concentration of power to an oligarchy, and exploitation of the most vulnerable. Also fascist tendencies are all the rage these days on the international stage, of course those in power are looking on with interest.

thepreciousboar ,

I think this effect is much greater on India compared with other countries because it’s so big, so diverse, and already unfair because of the caste culture already present

ImplyingImplications ,

India is a country that could be a superpower. They have the size, the population, the education, the industries, and the location. What they’re missing is democratic leadership.

India has aligned itself with China, Russia, Brazil, and South Africa. All countries that have been kicked out of the international adults table because their leadership act like babies. India choose to make these alliances because these countries don’t put stipulations on human rights as part of their agreements. Indian leadership doesn’t want to clean up their country, they’d rather make friends with Xi and Putin.

This mostly comes from their population voting in religious nationalists, which I hope is a good lesson to everyone as to why that’s such a bad idea.

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  • Sharkwellington ,

    India has aligned itself with China, Russia, Brazil, and South Africa. All countries that have been kicked out of the international adults table

    …because their leadership act like babies.

    Second quote is me completing the original. Why did you cut that last part of the sentence out?

    You are aware you just counted 40% of the world population, and with them comes 20% more? So you dismissed more than half of human population in one sentence?

    Ah that’s why. Yeah no they didn’t. They were talking about the people leading those countries, not the entire population.

    Let’s not even talk about racist part, which I hope is not intentional, when you take a look of who left on your “interational adult table”.

    It’s racist to call someone of another race “boy”.

    It’s not racist to say that a country’s leadership is acting childish. Heck it would actually be racist if someone were to say “all Indians are childish.” But that’s not what happened.

    People call other people childish all the time without a hint of racist intent.

    dutchkimble ,

    Not China

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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    Damn it… only if India adopted and became a vassal state of Anglosphere, they would prosper! Average white saviour complex mentality, right there. The reality is, if India adopted a China style governance, they would prosper. The reason India has failed is due to adopting western capitalist model, and with it the corruption makes the problem multifold.

    India is for once doing a correct thing, by throwing NATO into the gutter they belong. BRICS and neighbours is what India should align with, just like how Western countries do and act.

    ImplyingImplications ,

    I never mentioned anything about economic systems. I said human rights. Governments that murder people for speaking their minds will never succeed, regardless of economic model. The best and brightest people don’t want to live under oppressive governments.

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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    There are no human rights for terrorists like Khalistanis. Fuck off with this ambiguous posturing.

    railsdev ,

    “ambiguous posturing” 🤣

    railsdev ,

    and with it the corruption makes the problem multifold

    into the gutter they belong

    🤣

    mim ,

    Fascinating country.

    It’s worth more than one visit, just due to its huge diversity. Food is amazing, and it’s very lively. But you have to get used to it, and go with the flow. If you can’t live without all the first world luxuries and/or don’t feel comfortable stepping outside your bubble, don’t go, it’s not the place for you.

    Would I live there? No. And I’m deeply saddened by the political direction it’s heading in. But don’t form opinions about countries you’ve never been to.

    DLSchichtl ,

    But don’t form opinions about countries you’ve never been to.

    I think I can form my opinions on Russia, China, and most of the Middle East just fine from here, thanks.

    Anamana ,

    If you talk with a lot of migrants from these countries… possibly.

    Pantherina ,

    Nice tech tutorials. My LineageOS version comes from an indian guy, total legend.

    Awesome food, literally one of the best and healthiest ever. Vegans love it, its such a bless to always have at least vegetarian options. So spicey, diverse and not weird stuff like Sushi you dont really do yourself. Want to cook something? What about a coconut curry?

    • mustard seeds, cumin
    • ginger
    • garlic
    • onions in big pieces
    • tofu, mushrooms, anything
    • coconut milk
    • some paste
    • nice veggies
    • some spice mix

    This is so easy to cook!

    QuizatzHaderach ,

    Everytime I see it in the media, the cities look like a constant traffic pandemonium on a garbage dump. Nature seems beautiful, but India is one place on earth, I intend to never go to, sorry.

    OttoVonNoob , (edited )

    Canadian here, who is aware of the seveirty of of currenr events. Modhi is a problem, popularism and authoritarian behavior disguised as a somber old fellow. The dude has a 2 part BBC documentary about the evil he’s put in this world. He plays the victim in cold blooded murder in another nation. I believe it is hard to have a accurate opinion of India as a whole. As it is so diverse and is more of a country of British forced making, with a diverse set of cultures and religions. Pre British Raj I belive had 30-40 countries atleast. But the people whom I met are beautiful and generally kind. But keep in mind most are immigrants to Canada.

    TLDR: Modhi is a scum bag and generally immigrant Indians I’ve dealt with are delightful human beings.

    atlasraven31 ,

    They have a rich history but they live in the past, lacking modern sensibilities. Proud, arrogant, ignorant, short-sighted are some words that come to mind.

    Pantherina ,

    Hahaha thats 200% what my image of the USA currently is.

    atlasraven31 , (edited )

    We can make a separate thread if you would like to discuss. I’m well aware my own country has shortcomings.

    XTL ,

    That probably actually describes many, if not all, countries/nations/peoples to some extent.

    hungryphrog ,

    How common are honor killings in 'Murica? Don’t get me wrong, the USA is a shithole, but India is more horrible if you’re poor, a woman, or a child.

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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    How common are school shootings in India? Don’t get me wrong, the India is a shithole, but USA is more horrible if you’re poor, a woman, or a minority.

    AdmiralShat , (edited )

    Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahah

    No

    People who say this stuff have no real life experience

    Pantherina ,

    What is a honor killing?

    hungryphrog ,

    From Wikipedia: An honor killing (American English), honour killing (Commonwealth English), or shame killing is the murder of an individual, either an outsider or a member of a family, by someone seeking to protect what they see as the dignity and honor of themselves or their family. Honor killings are often connected to religion, caste, other forms of hierarchical social stratification, or sexuality. Most often, it involves the murder of a woman or girl by male family members, due to the perpetrators’ belief that the victim has brought dishonor or shame upon the family name, reputation or prestige.

    Pantherina ,

    Wtf. Okay this is sick

    PerogiBoi ,
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    I travelled to New Delhi, Jaipur, Rajhastan, Goa, Bangalore, and Tamil Nadu in 2011.

    I hated every fucking minute of that country. It smelled so fucking loud there, lots of open raw sewage, very different interpretation of personal space, if you are non Indian you’ll be followed around by scammers trying to pretend to be your tour guide or sell you things.

    You’d see huge marble houses that were very ornate and their next door neighbour would be lying on the ground underneath a thrown together tin tent structure. The wealth inequality was sickening.

    I would absolutely never return to that country/subcontinent for the rest of my life. Once was more than enough.

    Albin7326 OP ,
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    Oh. It’s really bad experience 😅

    PerogiBoi ,
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    Very much. It was a big culture shock. I was genuinely bewildered at some of the living conditions people had. It was really messed up. That, paired with seeing the visible caste system in real life. Dalits stooped low and disfigured sweeping the streets with brooms but built entirely out of sticks.

    It felt like another planet to me.

    DeltaTangoLima ,
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    I couldn’t agree more - I felt ashamed when I looked at the beautiful hotel I was staying in (business trip), after seeing a father kiss his kids goodbye under the makeshift tarpaulin tent they lived in, on the side of a busy, noisy, smelly road.

    Only place that was (somehow) worse was Bangladesh. Same wealth inequality problems as India, but the blatant abuse of the poor was completely on show. I saw police beating beggars on the side of the road, after they knocked on windows of cars, asking for money.

    PerogiBoi ,
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    Oh you’ve reminded me of all the police stops for bribes. That to me was so fucking wild. Police pull you over and ya gotta hand them money or else they’ll give you a hard time.

    waterbogan ,

    This is what puts me off going, the poverty. Pity because I’d love to go for all the great vegetarian food, but I can get a lot of that here

    PerogiBoi ,
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    Food is subjective but I found Indian food in India was very watery. I much prefer North American Indian food.

    jeena ,
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    I know quite many people from there because I’m working in the Automobile industry with software, so I’ve been working with quite many people from different parts of India. I would even say that India would be better off if it split into smaller countries because people are so super different, starting with language and food all the way to culture and money. I’ve met the coolest people and the shittiest from India.

    All in all I like that it’s a to some degree functioning democracy.

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