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If you could give 10 years of development time to up to 10 software projects, which would you choose?

  • You can choose up to 10 software projects.
  • Each project receives 10 years of development time as if all the programmers worked continuously for that duration, following their current working methods.
  • After choosing these 10 (or less) projects, everything else remains unchanged in the world, as if time has been frozen for 10 years.

Which projects do you choose?

jungekatz ,
@jungekatz@hexbear.net avatar

Sounds too impractical 😂

starman OP , (edited )
@starman@programming.dev avatar

For me it would be:

  • Helix: Great editor but needs a lot of development
  • Lemmy: 3rd party frontends would have a hard time to catch up with changes, but it’s worth it anyway
  • GNU: they could update some stuff and also hurd kernel looks really interesting
  • Arch Linux: maybe they would improve wiki or write some software to make life easier on arch
  • .NET: I know that microsoft bad but I really like .NET, and it’s devs are doing really nice stuff. And it’s FOSS
  • LibreOffice: they could integrate LLMs into their apps maybe
  • Wayland: why not?
  • Firefox: maybe they will improve performance and catch up with some css features
  • Hyprland: it’s working fine at it’s current state, but it always can be better
  • Nouveau: it would be a nice alternative to proprietary nvidia drivers
a_seattle_ian , (edited )

What about Mono? Looks like most of the people working on .NET are working out of Redmond at Microsoft.

souperk ,
@souperk@reddthat.com avatar

I know microsoft bad

I second that, big corp bad

Tagger ,

Can I give two projects 50 years each?

starman OP ,
@starman@programming.dev avatar

That would be very unpredictable but also fun

Tagger ,

Then I’ll go Google bard and chat gpt3. Having both of those being massively advanced could have some really interesting consequences.

Tagger ,

Or go with a self driving car project as that’s consistently ‘10 years away’.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

If one of those is Star Citizen, it may actually release in our lifetime

H2207 ,
@H2207@lemmy.world avatar
  • Linux

Obviously

  • Wayland

So we can finally say goodnight to X

  • XFCE

For low-end devices and people who don’t like bloat, we can still have a modern desktop.

  • Nouveau / NVK

Nvidia are currently dominant, so new users probably have Nvidia GPUs.

  • Open-source AMDGPU stack.

Why not? I’m only five items in.

  • Blender

I want fast fluid simulations and RTGI in eevee.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

GNOME Calendar, Lemmy, Thunderbird, Firefox

netchami ,
  • Mesa
  • Noveau
  • Wine
  • Proton
  • RedoxOS
  • GNU Hurd
  • KDE Plasma
  • Kdenlive
  • LibreOffice
  • Nushell

Edit: There are even more projects that need some development like Linux, Wayland and some BSDs

morphballganon ,

The next four Zeldas, the next Metroid, the next Mario, the next Smash Bros, the next three Elder Scrolls

pandarisu ,

How about giving all 100 years to GameFreak so they can try to make a good Pokémon game?

morphballganon , (edited )

I wouldn’t roll the dice on those 100 years like that

PlexSheep , (edited )
@PlexSheep@feddit.de avatar

You better bring wavedashing back and buff Jigglypuff

morphballganon ,

I’m not working on it

PlexSheep ,
@PlexSheep@feddit.de avatar

Good, don’t switch the direction of puff on back air and remove lag frames.

xkforce ,

Proton/WINE. I never want to have issues playing games without windows ever again.

MJBrune ,

If I truly had this power, I’d somehow get far more engineers on ReactOS then use all 10 uses on ReactOS. ReactOS is honestly the thing that is going to replace Windows if anything does. Linux is just too different and not user-friendly. People can argue it is now or it’s growing that way but realistically the underlying Linux ethos is that “you should know your computer.” Ain’t no one wants to know their computer. They just want to use it. ReactOS is just 50 years behind Windows at this point.

averyfalken ,

Linux mint is pretty basic to use if I’m being honest

MJBrune ,

It’s basic, laggy, and doesn’t work with Minecraft, setting up Xbox controllers on it is hit or miss and requires you to know your computer more than not. Had to use a sketchy github repo xone. Even using a Wacom tablet with it has some pretty silly bugs like with the tablet setting, I told it to absolute map to my left monitor, but it was mapped to my right. I switched to the other monitor on this list, was still mapped to my right. No way to map the tablet to the left monitor. Getting Rocket League to even run was sketchy and I had to install the Steam flatpak over the official repo version, no clue why but otherwise it’d hang on installing Direct X.

So yeah, a bunch of extra annoying work that no one wants to do at best and at worst removes absolutely needed functionality I need for my workflow. I used Linux as my daily driver from when I was in college in 2008 and into my first and second jobs. In 2014 I dropped it because my third job required Windows. I then realized how much easier everything really was on Windows and what I had been putting myself through to simply manage a decent desktop environment. I still dual boot and even today I was in Linux Mint with Cinnamon but I still end up on Windows for the majority of stuff I want to do.

averyfalken ,

I experience literally zero of those issues you mention. Literally I experience more issues on windows than I do with mint

MJBrune ,

Yup, anytime I ever bring up issues like this to Linux users “Oh yeah, that’s never happened to me” and “You must have done something REALLY messed up!” is the typical response. Whereas if I ask Windows or Mac users who used Linux “Yeah, that’s Linux for you, every time I’ve tried it.” It’s silly to even try to bring it up at this point because I know the canned responses of “well it works for me.” which is why you still use Linux and most people don’t. You just have the exact setup that Linux caters to.

averyfalken ,

You mean a bog standard motherboard with CPU and nividia GPU mostly used for gaming and webbrowsing.

Eta windows in the only is I have ever had issues with printer drivers on as well now that I’m thinking of it

Eta though on we hardware like the tablet that particular set up does have its known issues but I’m a keyboard and mouse gal personally

MJBrune ,

I mean that’s exactly what I have. Simple Nvidia 3070 with some random Mobo and 64 GB of RAM. An Xbox controller and a Wacom tablet aren’t exotic. Most people will have an Xbox controller if they play any racing game or vehicle game on PC. Lots of artists exist. Wacom tablets are for drawing and are not a keyboard/mouse replacement but are used alongside them for things like Krita, Gimp, and Blender.

CUPS typically works for all printers on Linux, it’s one of Linux’s strongest systems. In my opinion, the better move is to never need to print anything. Print everything to PDF, sign digitally, and send stuff to my phone if I need it on the go.

lea ,

Matrix, its clients, and Revolt. I’m sick of there not being a featureful Discord alternative the most.

jabberati ,
@jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

They already collected tens of millions of venture capital funding for an inefficient reinvention of XMPP. Can we boost XMPP development instead? We don't need another corporate replacement for an existing internet standard.

oldfart ,

I still can’t wrap my head around how smoothly Matrix took over the FOSS IM space while offering nothing new

jabberati ,
@jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

People like shiny things. They should build on the existing internet standards, and make a shiny XMPP client. Instead we get yet another incompatible protocol.

oldfart ,

Is it shiny though? Last time I used riot.im or vector.im or whatever the client was named, it was no less clunky than converse.js. Nowhere close to, say, Discord or Telegram.

That was in year 201x, I’m sure they got better since then, but that was the time when they gained popularity

otter ,

10 years of development is insane, and I feel like some projects will be limited by the hardware and other software that isn’t being updated. You’d have to spread out the 10 amongst projects that can help each other.

Would this also depend on who is currently working on it, or would the project also get a stable number of developers working full time?

Icalasari ,

All of it to the next generation of Pokemon games

I just want to see how GameFreak manages to fuck it up even with all the development time they could possibly ever need

MomoTimeToDie ,

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    potterpockets ,

    I cant believe i am saying this, but i will give GF the smallest amount of a pass possible in that if they could develop a game on their schedule (while it probably would still have issues) it would probably be a much more complete and game than we have seen in a while.

    And the reason for that is because of the demands and standards on GF from Nintendo/The Pokemon Company would be alleviated by significantly more development time.

    Pokemon the brand is so fucking massive it is almost hard to comprehend. And that is because in part of how well synergized the different products are marketed and released. And right there is why it is impossible for GF to ask for a game to be delayed if they wanted to in order to create more assets (like 3D sprites) or do QA.

    A delay in the game releasing means they have to slow the production of cards, tv shows, movies, toys, promotions, all of the rest of the products that are based on the new game’s pokemon or other features.

    The entire brand pretty much has to halt. Why do that when they know people will still by a poorly optimized and game with less features than the previous entry (plus DLC) and then still get hyped to also buy cards and toys and everything else?

    MomoTimeToDie ,

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    Icalasari ,

    On BDSP, Legends was supposed to be that. They thought it was too different, suddenly switch direction and changed a bunch of resources, and threw the Gen 4 remake to some random company that did a shit job (and for some ungodly reason was invited on to help with Gen 9) - There's even assets including a 1 to 1 remake of the players room from DPPt in Legend's code

    That said, yeah the lack of time given by TPCi is only part of the problem. The people running GameFreak, for some ungodly reason, refuse to use the money and resources they have to hire more people. They intentionally keep one of if not THE smallest AAA team in the industry

    Apparently, TPCi is having internal talks about how they don't give GameFreak enough time, though, and apparently are also getting pissed at GameFreak's higher ups refusing to hire more people, so HOPEFULLY this leads somewhere, but yeah

    There's a reason why even with ten or hell, a hundred years, I still doubt GameFreak could produce something. Time fixes half the problem. Their refusal to hire people however means they could be given all the time in the world and still not be able to produce because most of the time would be spent updating to new tech when they could double or triple their team size and have people actually dedicated to that part

    Fizz ,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    Linux, Wayland, Firefox, kde, proton, Pipewire.

    Nobara, kden live, free cad, only office.

    LopensLeftArm ,
    @LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Baldur’s Gate 4 through 13.

    Platform27 ,
    1. KDE Project
    2. Wayland
    3. Open source drivers (especially Nvidia)
    4. Lemmy
    5. Mastadon
    6. Scribus
    7. Nextcloud
    8. Firefox
    9. Tutanota suite
    10. Wine
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