Well there you go, you’ve just defined sin(lessness)
Not everyone has the same definition though - but if you’re coming from a Christian-influenced culture, that’s not far off the core meaning of sin in Christianity, just with an added “easier said than done”
In some Christianity. Many define it in terms of disobeying God, which can conflict pretty badly with the not-being-a-dick thing depending on interpretation
In correct Christianity. (Yes, I am bigoted about what sort of Christianity is correct.)
Obeying God is, a) not being a dick to God, and b) not being a dick is easier said than done and God understands this better than we do.
Agreed the interpretation can turn this to either seem bad or genuinely be bad; and there are other also-valid ways to oversimplify it. But I still contend that in genuine Christianity not-sin is at least essentially close to not-being-a dick as long as you can think ahead to later consequences of your actions and not be a dick with the consequences either.
I’m not Christian, so I don’t have a view on what interpretations are “correct.” But if I might ask, how did you come to the conclusion that your interpretation is the right one?
Ooh, this one I want to give much more time to answering then I have…
Many different aspects, some weaker, some stronger, that come together enough that I feel very confident in my confidence.
And not every belief within Christianity is something I’d say I’m sure I’m right, or it’s vital for every Christian to believe/agree.
But my main logical foundation would be something like this:
‘God’, who created existing physical reality, exists.
the Bible, being a special testimony and writings of people’s interaction with God, is trustworthy
Jesus is God come into the world as a human, and he died, and came alive again
a Christian is someone who follows Jesus and accepts forgiveness through Jesus and knows and worships God through Jesus.
Those are pretty much axioms/dogma, and it would certainly take more time than I have now to describe why and how I think they are true. But I feel confident to say anybody who rejects those has no business calling their beliefs ‘Christian’.
(Essentially. …there are a handful of subtleties depending on how you interpret what I’ve written.)
From those axioms there are a bunch of things that I think are essential for healthy Christian thinking & living, and a bunch more that I value highly, and/or think correct, but I’ll still respect you as a Christian if you disagree.
And for the most part, this core foundation (including many of the corollaries) is shared by pretty much every Christian group that considers Jesus their lord rather than some other person or ‘humanity’ or ‘human logic’. Although the different groups will often discuss and express it in very different terms and perspectives.
For the question above of what is ‘sin’, Christians will talk of obedience, broken relationship with God, rebellion, evil spiritual influence, corruption, decay, human nature, foolishness… all things that have connection, and some become just different starting points to talk about the same thing.
Part of the problem is whether you start with a concept and choose a word (e.g. sin) for it; or start with a word and ask what other people (e.g. the Bible authors, Christian history etc) have meant by it.
And of course on the way people will twist and abuse it all sorts for their own ends, which is a major reason we always go back to the Bible for authority.
All that said - I think there is a strong argument from the Bible, backed up (for myself) by my experience of my relationship with God and (for others) by common church teaching, that the core meaning of sin is being not-loving, not-kind, selfish, hateful, evil, towards people and towards God. I.e., being a dick. That judgement is recognising publicly between wrong (being a dick) and right (not being a dick) and rewarding/punishing appropriately. And that most of how sin and righteousness is discussed and characterised beyond that, is framework around that, taking into account long term effects, the reality of God, and so on.
I don’t expect every Christian to agree that my way there of analysing it is the best, or even helpful, but I would expect most if not all - if they fit my axioms of Christianity above - if they really study and consider their beliefs and the Bible, to come to a similar conclusion as part of their understanding.
Phew! I wonder if I made any terrible mistakes as I wrote. (And on my phone, at that!) Eh, it’s the internet, you can get what you want from it and assume I’m a dick for the rest ;-p. And I’ll try and answer any more questions if you like.
Oh, a final note. My description of ‘judgement’ seems to miss out the central thing of Christianity, that is we are saved (from our sin, and from judgement regarding it) by trusting in Jesus. That is central, (and maybe I’ve not written it well), but it’s of key importance that that - that salvation through Jesus - is built on top of that plain meaning of right/wrong and judgement.
I’m not from a religious background but I always thought sex before marriage is a sin, no? I’m not sure how in modern times sex before marriage between two consenting adults is being a dick.
Sin - a deed that sky fairy says is bad and you must jump through this sky fairy’s follwers’ hoops to divest yourself of it to remain in their and sky fairy’s favor. If you don’t, you don’t get to go to sky fairy’s happy place when you die.
Being a dick - no sky fairy involved. You’re just being a dick and need to make amends if you don’t want to be perceived as a dick, or just carry on being one. No divine retribution, no hoops to jump through for Elysium.
So, it’s like if you smoke cigarettes next to a pregnant lady, and the sign on the wall says no smoking. If someone asks you to stop, are they currying favour with the wall-fairy? Or are you being a dick by passing smoke to the lady (even if you don’t realise it’s damaging her health).
Besides, if we’re talking Christian belief, said sky fairy is the same who made you and the world you live in, not too mention a bunch of other credentials, so he has a bit more clout than your average pigeon.
And as to the followers’ hoops: “the views expressed herein do not always represent the views of the management” (although they ought to, if followers are following well!)
what i meant by sin was the most evil act , (like someone said puking on homeless person) , but i am still satisfied with the answers that you gave me about how being a atheist is considered the greatest sin , i didnt expected atheism to be such a huge sin in religion but i guess i was wrong.
you didn’t expect the complete denial of religion for oneself being a sin of following a religion??? the whole point of following a religion is following that religion. not following it is in large part a sin. of course there are exceptions, but if we are speaking about judaic religions (the most common use of the word sin), literally not following the religion is a sin.
According to the inventors of sin, sin is a crime or offense against God. If there is no deity, sin is impossible to commit. Also, they say all sin is equal: you are equally condemned for committing murder or for looking at someone lustfully. So this question, as worded, is deceptively hard to answer.
If you’re asking “what’s the most awesome thing you’ve done that people would consider a sin” well, I’d probably add to the list of people who answered with atheism, as questioning and searching for the truth is taboo in Abrahamic societies.
If you’re asking “what’s the most awful thing you’ve done?” Well, it might be somewhat tame, but I wake up in a cold sweat sometimes when I think about it. Imagine a 13-year-old kid confident of having the answers to someone’s questions, when a life is on the line.
Neither of those are sin, Christians just don’t understand what sin is, the word itself means “to miss the mark” how is being gay missing the mark? It’s not, it only used to be because being gay basically sentenced your entire family to starvation, last I checked your kin aren’t starving to death because you have a partner are they? Also Jesus would prefer you be an athiest than a false Christian. Everyone is saved anyway so even ‘belief’ isn’t necessary to be resurrected in the kingdom on earth.
One of the ten commandments is do not commit murder.
Sin certainly has religious elements yes. But every wrong doing is sin. And the big ones are in the ten commandments, which include things like stealing, murder, and cheating on your spouse.
then why not wording as “what is the worst wrong doing you’ve done?” am asking from the standpoint of language (and the one of instance policy), as “sin you’ve done” sounds to me, at face value, like bigotry (ie. integrating the view of one religion as something universal and/or real)
During covid, I had one teensy moment of not being careful with myself, and I think I spread the virus. Down the line, I’m told someone died from it. I consider myself a woman of faith, and to this day, the idea I caused a death still terrifies me.